GT or Daima

[Goe]

Hi:

Everyone knows both animes are similar because Goku is turned into a kid and must travel in space with oter three mates, a female and three males (in GT Pan, Trunks and Giru, and in Daima Panzy, Glorio and Kaioh Shin). Then, I'd like to ask you DB fans a question:

What do you prefer, GT or Daima? (I'll edit to count the votes)

GT: 13 (alithezombie13, Chuquita, GokuHater, Jord, Yuji, Cipher, Fizzer, t0ffe3m4n, YamiGoku, Extreme_kai, Nanatsu88, GokuTheMaster389, dbs fanboy)
Daima: 17 (Goe, TechExpert2021 [Daitouden], dbgtFO, sangofe, MCDaveG, ZombieVito, MisteryOne, Neo-Makaiōshin, kemuri07, TheMikado, Basaku, GatoF, ZeroNeonix, perucho1990, Jiren The Alpha, SupremeKai25, nineko, Vegeta th3 4th)
Both equally: 4 (Saiya6Cit, Dragon Ball Ireland, Makaioshin, Kid Goku X Shenron)

Personally I prefer Daima at the moment. Main reason is I found GT Pan so annoying and no-one is as annoying as Pan in Daima. There are other things I didn't like about GT, but Pan was the main reason. However, I watched GT until chapter 42 and Daima only to chapter 8, so it may be early to create this poll. However, I remember being fed up of Pan in chapter 8 and, even if Daima is not perfect, isn't as annoying for me. We can do this provisional poll and once Daima ends, a new poll with more knowledge about both animes.

[Magnificent Ponta]

If I might venture an opinion about the topic premise, I don't think GT and Daima are actually all that similar.

The wish to make characters younger is the only similarity that I see as significant and compelling so far, but in Daima's case it seems like this has less to do with GT and more to do with the fact that it's celebrating 40 years of Dragon Ball with a story that generally harks back to its beginnings, when Goku was a kid - and, as such, GT and Daima are only otherwise "comparable" in the (very general) sense that they are both newer stories that set out fresh takes on the original Dragon Ball hunt. The other "similarities" between the two that I have seen proffered seem pretty superficial to me, and are often summaries deliberately framed to make the examples seem similar when a consideration of their context in each story reveals that they aren't, particularly.

Given that GT is a finished article and a series that functions as a definitive ending for the Dragon Ball story, and Daima is neither of those things (and does not seemingly in any way aspire to be the latter - and with regard to the former, Daima is still quite early in its story and could soar to new heights or catastrophically drop the ball, so a judgement seems premature), I doubt that either series is well-served by an attempt at a thoroughgoing comparison - their storytelling contexts and intentions are different at quite a basic level. You can compare them, of course, in the sense that you can compare any of the Dragon Ball series and ask "which do you like better?", sure, but unless something more compelling pops up, at this time I'm not particularly convinced by assumptions that the two series are especially directly comparable.

The one comparison I would feel free to make is that no fight in GT came anywhere close in quality to that of Goku vs. Tamagami 3. But then again, one might also make that argument with any of the other DB series in view. Beyond that, answering "which do you like better?", I guess I could say that I've been generally enjoying Daima on a mostly gentle, low-key level whereas I didn't enjoy GT all that much beyond some very remarkable moments that it had scattered through it.

[Majin Buu]

I think it's a little early to be putting this question out there considering we're only about a 1/4th (?) of the way into Daima.

[Goe]

Thanks to both for your replies.

Hum…I guess you are right and I'm afraid I created this poll too early and I shouldn't but I have read Daima with only 8 chapters has 8.1 in IMDB (3800 votes) and GT has only 6.8 (30000 votes). Super has currently 8.3 (39000 votes) but I remember when Super started had more than 4 but less than 5 in IMDB, while GT was already about 6.

I felt surprised by the fact that Daima is already more rated than GT in IMDB even it has just only started so I wanted to ask, but I feel I may asked before time. If so, I'm sorry.

[Majin Buu]

You just jumped the gun a bit, no need to apologize.

Daima could completely screw the pooch somewhere down the line and end up a mixed bag or outright awful when it's all over. I hope it doesn't because I'm currently enjoying it, and I'm cautiously optimistic that won't happen; but we gotta let things play out first.

[AliTheZombie13]

First things first: You really shouldn't care about what other people rate about your shows, especially on places like IMDB.
You should watch and come to your own conclusions.

That being said. IMO, Daima so far has been pleasant, but hasn't hit quite a high note yet (and before somebody gets on my ass, no, I don't care about how pretty the fights are, I care about story substance). So for the moment, I'm inclined to say I prefer GT, but that might change by the time Daima ends.

[Goe]

Thank you for your reply.

I don't look IMDB ratings to decide to watch the shows or not. I am a DB fan since 90s and everytime I try to watch all DB anime but I stop if I feel dissapointed.

I watched DB and DBZ until the end
I watched GT until chapter 42 because I didn’t like it
I watched Super until Chapter 5 due to its poor animation, but I read the whole manga until survival tournament. I didn't read Moro saga becausd I felt dissapointed about Bardock's reboot in DBSB.
I am currently watching Daima.

However, I like to know the opinions of other DB fans. When someone is a fan of something, discuss about it with other fans is a pleasure. In any case, I think IMDB is a trustable site to know TV shows and film popularities, but I agree I shouldn't consider that ratings as the only reason to watch a show or not.

[JulieYBM]

I don't think that either qualifies as good television. I really don't foresee myself returning to view the entirety of either in the future.

[Chuquita]

I can't compare fairly since Daima's not done yet, but my own metrics the positives of each are:

GT:
+has mustache-Vegeta and the gags that come with him
+eventually had ssj4 which imo is a creative design
+has a heartbreaking finale
+gave Goku his tail back
+variety in travel locations

Daima (as of ep 8):
+Goku is more charming overall (there's a few stinkers that don't land, but he's like at 97%)
+Bulma, Vegeta, and Piccolo get to join the road trip this time
+Arinsu and Majin Two Electric Buugaloo have potential as opponents

So, GT has the edge for me atm, but things could easily change.

[TechExpert2021]

I would personally go with Dragon Ball Daima, but this might change sometime, especially after the series ends.

However, considering that Daima is not finished yet, I can't fairly compare Daima to GT.

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[Saiya6Cit]

Both!!

I like both GT and Daima.

My order goes like:

DBZ, DBGT, DBDaima, OG DB, DB Heroes, DB Kai, DB Super.

Daima is very star wars-like (same as GT) but correcting GT mistakes, such as when they "forget" they can fly or that they are... saiyan warriors. But I happen to believe GT's music is better and I did like the color pallete they used and they way animation was made in the 90s. I mean, I appreciate it when Daima introduces computer generated animation for the fight scenes, I guess I am just nostalgic for the way animation used to look on TV, before the plasma and LED technologies... And then I really love Trunks and Pan but these new characters are also charming and Toriyama's humor is the same as in the DB Super Super heroe movie, I enjoy that, it feels as if for a brief moment Toriyama-Sensei would still be with us.

For the moment being I vote both.

[TechExpert2021]

Daima (Goe, TechExpert2021 Daitouden)

Don't wanna be mean, but that's not how it's formatted.

I should've said that my primary online alias ("Daitouden") should be included in brackets, instead of parentheses.

Here's how it's supposed to be formatted:

(TechExpert2021 [Daitouden])

[dbgtFO]

Having watched GT all the way through, I an confidently state that to me Daima is far better.

Only thing missing is more varied locations. Toriyams does like his wastelands, but hopefully in Demon World 2 and 1, there will be something nicer to look at.

Did GT ever animate a fight as nicely as Goku vs Tamagami #3?
I can't seem to recall one and I can't seem to recall any standout fights animation wise in GT. They were all pretty underwhelming with lots of ki blast spam and poorly designed fight sequences.

[sangofe]

Hi:

Everyone knows both animes are similar because Goku is turned into a kid and must travel in space with oter three mates, a female and three males (in GT Pan, Trunks and Giru, and in Daima Panzy, Glorio and Kaioh Shin). Then, I'd like to ask you DB fans a question:

What do you prefer, GT or Daima? (I'll edit to count the votes)

GT (alithezombie13, Chuquita)
Daima (Goe, TechExpert2021 [Daitouden], dbgtFO)
Both equally (Saiya6Cit)

Personally I prefer Daima at the moment. Main reason is I found GT Pan so annoying and no-one is as annoying as Pan in Daima. There are other things I didn't like about GT, but Pan was the main reason. However, I watched GT until chapter 42 and Daima only to chapter 8, so it may be early to create this poll. However, I remember being fed up of Pan in chapter 8 and, even if Daima is not perfect, isn't as annoying for me. We can do this provisional poll and once Daima ends, a new poll with more knowledge about both animes.

Daima for sure.

[MCDaveG]

I prefer Daima... I have actually rewatched Super as I thought initially, that Daima will be sequel before the news bomb and now the show releasing.
And after that, I went with GT after like 10 years of seeing bits and pieces for the last time, watching it concurently in the gaps between Daima episodes.

With all and the recent lore dumps as far as the 8th episode, I have to love Daima.
The first 30 or so episodes of GT are hell to sit through going from Z. It's like dumbed down version down to stupid gags, that are lacking that Toriyama charm. While the production department, originality of some concepts like Uub merging with Buu and art and designs are superb and GT wins over Super in this regard, including the SSJ4, the storyboarding, choreography and storytelling are not so good.
I have remembered the Baby arc more fondly than it is and only part that felt like the classic Z to me was the fight agains ''Syn/Omega'' One Star Dragon, with episode 57 of GT being an unexpected treat and beautiful to look at in all regards.

With Daima, I feel Toriyama from it. From the design standpoint down to the storytelling. It is charming, it has great production value and I never felt one dull moment so far, cool visuals and craftsmanship. Not to mention quite groundbreaking lore dumps.
And it is actually, again, a sequel to Z, or rather, to Z inside the timegap.
But this time with the classic tropes and SSJ being the standard and iconic form, building on the original rather than to do power scales through recolors.

The only downside deemed by many might be, that Goku is kid again, we had this trope before in GT. For me personally, it left a sour taste when I saw it as a kid, because Goku becoming kid, lead pretty much to nowhere with some big plot points being resolved and ended out of nowhere (like Piccolo somehow standing in lava crater ''I will explode with the planet and the curse of DBs will be broken, bye''), with Goku shrugging it off and riding off on the dragon.
But that is actually quite minor thing in the whole narrative and all characters got downsized, which to me gives a clear signal from the start, that they can't remain that way and have to resolve it somehow and having them all small brings more fun dynamic than just jokes about how my granddad looks like a kid.

Daima together with Toriyama's passing is heartwarming project and feels like a love letter to fans of the original DB and both anime series.
More in contrast to half assed products like Z being recut as Kai instead of full blown remake or underdeveloped and rushed Super in the past decade.

P. S. Daima Goku actually isn't as underpowered as in GT besides having different body size and can even teleport!

[ZombieVito]

Daima is better but not by much.

Both of them are easily at the bottom of the franchise when it comes to anime for me.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Daima for the story and worldbuilding so far, I find the existence black star Dragon Balls to be much harder to accept than Bulma having a sister who was never mentioned for decades (which was admittedly not a fault of Daima but a commonly criticized contrivance nonetheless), and I much prefer the exploration of the Demon World to the planets Goku, Pan and Trunks visited in early GT.

GT has a unique aesthetic, but much of it, like fighting in cities and an abandoned amusement park under a cloudy sky doesn't come until the final arc. Daima's visuals may not be as unique but it is better animated and nicer to look at in motion.

I also think GT has a better score, Akihito Tokunaga is second only to Shunsuke Kikuchi in terms of Dragon Ball composers, but Kosuke Yamashita has some nice tunes too and is probably the most exciting part of Daima so far for me.

So it's a toss-up, I enjoy both for different reasons but Daima is probably edging GT out ever so slightly.

[GokuHater]

I am not very keen on comparing those two as there are more differences than you might think. The timing is very different, the context of each series, the reason they exist...

Daima is a "little" side story, an interlude if you will, which exists cause Toryiama really wanted to tell a story. GT while is is considered a side story now, back in the day, it was a legitimate continuation of Z and in a way, the ending for the whole series, at least for a few years.

Any comparisons now would also be not fair as GT is a finished product with various arcs and the whole story told while Daima just got started.

I feel -and that is only my opinion - that for now, GT would absolutely win... With it's ideas, callbacks which don't feel tacked on, music, villains, transformations and pacing. Even if GT is flawed, I feel sum of its parts, it does better.
On the other hand Daima has spectacular animation and great battle choreography and like I said, we have to wait for the end to get the full picture.

[MisteryOne]

Daima, and is not even close. I also like it more than the Super anime, which is quite a feat considering how short it has been airing, and that I hate the "midquel of a midquel" nature of it on principle, and it's also pretty much fanservice.

I would refrain from making a full judgement until it's actually over tho. For all I know, the remaining episodes could be a complete disaster. However, I was never a big fan of most of GT, and rewatching it lately to keep up with MistareFusion's videos has only made me think even worse of it. Many things that I liked because I only remembered the themes and overall impressions of it are actually such a mess in execution and on individual episode basis, and I only ignored them because I forgot about them. It would be very hard for Daima to drop the ball so much considering it's not supposed to be that long to begin with.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Daima by sheer virtue of having better animation and being a 1/3 of the length of GT.