Girl Power?

[Saiya6Cit]

Since last week's episode where Supreme Kai's sister goes with a witch and they talk about the Majin "escence" (I guess?) and the possibility to create a new Majin Buu, I have been thinking: What if they were to create a kid Majin Buu but a girl version? And what color would it be?

For years it has been mentioned among the fandom that the role women have in Dragon Ball is never relevant...I always understood they meant in terms of fighting because obviously Chichi, Videl, Bulma and Android 18, they all have important roles in the series. Or perhaps they mean that because before Super and their new saiyans there was no female SSJ DB character.

Would it change anything if they give women a "relevant role" in DB Daima? Would people reject it and call "Agenda"?

It has been a while since there was a female main villain in DB anime history, as in the Buu saga there was none. Supreme Kai sister does not seem forced to me because of that reason, the witch and why not a female Majin buu.

Going back to the Girl Buu topic...
I was so possed by the idea that I could not help but creating a design for such character, mainly to experiment with the colorimetry, finally today I finished it. You can see it here: https://www.deviantart.com/saiya6cit/art/1130077021

Please share thoughts here and share the art if you liked it.

Thank you.

[StaticMania]

People didn't have much of a problem with Android 21...or Towa.

But those are video game characters, maybe they get lesser focus.

[JulieYBM]

I hope that Dr. Arinsu and Panzy have plot relevant roles and good individual character arcs throughout the story. Anyone who has an issue with the existence of female characters having more important roles in the series can kindly fuck off.

[Saiya6Cit]

People didn't have much of a problem with Android 21...or Towa.

But those are video game characters, maybe they get lesser focus.

True, this is anime now.

Anyone who has an issue with the existence of female characters having more important roles in the series can kindly fuck off.

Cursing is now allowed in Kanzenshuu, I am still getting used to it.

But I get your point. No one should have a problem, unless that they go "full agenda" with it, this is, making the show about the gals, instead of abput Goku and company... Which was the reason why I stop watching the Mandalorian series, it was really good until they had to make it all about the independant black woman until it was not the same show I had started to watch,


I hope Daima does not follow the dark path,

Bottom line, I don't consider Dragon ball to be gender exclusive. If anyone wants to point out that it has many sexy gals in sexy outfits and the fact that Roshi makes an enphasis on dirty magazines, as a proof that the show was made for males...well they are wrong. I know many females who watch the show because they think muscular guys are sexy, and that does not mean that the show was made for women either.

[Zephyr]

A female Boo-type Majin could be cool. For good or ill, I think there's about as much chance as DB becoming centered on a female cast as there is of it becoming centered on anyone besides Goku. Which is to say, not likely any time soon, but it could happen.

Cursing is now allowed in Kanzenshuu, I am still getting used to it.

When was it not? Search the word "fucking", for instance, and you'll see results going back all the way to 2004, including from site staff.

[Mr Baggins]

I firmly second what Julie said. Calling any push to have more female representation an "agenda" is just more reactionary bullshit from bigots not-so-cleverly trying to mask their bigotry. Not much more to say than that.

Anyway, Arinsu is awesome.

[Ronin]

I'm imagining the new Majin to look something like the female Majin from Dragon Ball Online. And if not, then there are a few different Majin designs from that game that might also be similar.

[TechExpert2021]

I hope that Dr. Arinsu and Panzy have plot relevant roles and good individual character arcs throughout the story. Anyone who has an issue with the existence of female characters having more important roles in the series can kindly fuck off.

I firmly second what Julie said. Calling any push to have more female representation an "agenda" is just more reactionary bullshit from bigots not-so-cleverly trying to mask their bigotry. Not much more to say than that.

I'm seconding these.

I wish we could get a Dragon Ball anime with female characters as protagonists and/or serving important roles.

[super michael]

We don't know how this new Majin Boo will turn out, but potential wise it should be extremely high. They have pieces of Boo, when he was complete. He has his good and evil side, along with two Kaioshin absorbed in him.

If Majin Boo power wasn't weakened by Dai Kaioshin heart, then his power would be higher.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

Now if I remember correctly, in DBO, doesn't Buu make himself a wife by using a part of himself? If a female Majin is created, I wonder if this is how it happens

[dragonballhero]

I hope that Dr. Arinsu and Panzy have plot relevant roles and good individual character arcs throughout the story. Anyone who has an issue with the existence of female characters having more important roles in the series can kindly fuck off.

I firmly second what Julie said. Calling any push to have more female representation an "agenda" is just more reactionary bullshit from bigots not-so-cleverly trying to mask their bigotry. Not much more to say than that.

I'm seconding these.

I wish we could get a Dragon Ball anime with female characters as protagonists and/or serving important roles.

Can I just say that as someone who'd have no complaints with Pan serving as DB's new lead if they ever decided to take a stab replacing Goku and Vegeta again, it will never NOT throw me for a loop how Goku FINALLY had a blood relative who liked training and fighting almost as much as he did, and SHE was given the boot over some random kid??

(Granted, said kid was Majin Buu reborn, but STILL.)

[JulieYBM]

I hope that Dr. Arinsu and Panzy have plot relevant roles and good individual character arcs throughout the story. Anyone who has an issue with the existence of female characters having more important roles in the series can kindly fuck off.

I firmly second what Julie said. Calling any push to have more female representation an "agenda" is just more reactionary bullshit from bigots not-so-cleverly trying to mask their bigotry. Not much more to say than that.

I'm seconding these.

I wish we could get a Dragon Ball anime with female characters as protagonists and/or serving important roles.

Can I just say that as someone who'd have no complaints with Pan serving as DB's new lead if they ever decided to take a stab replacing Goku and Vegeta again, it will never NOT throw me for a loop how Goku FINALLY had a blood relative who liked training and fighting almost as much as he did, and SHE was given the boot over some random kid??

(Granted, said kid was Majin Buu reborn, but STILL.)

Sexism and misogyny suck. Women are allowed very few roles in mainstream media, and very seldom are those leading roles where they get to be cool and independent.

[Goe]

I don't know if female characters would have an important role or not yet. It's too early. I won't speculate but I think I can reply to this:

Would it change anything if they give women a "relevant role" in DB Daima? Would people reject it and call "Agenda"?

Answer would be: I dont't know if women getting a relevant role would change DB in a relevant way (the key is how the idea is executed) but I am sure if that happens, at least some people would reject it and call agenda. But that wouldn't happened in 90s or early 2000s.

I think there were superheroines in Western fiction long time ago from Wonderwoman to Lara Croft… and nobody complained about that but some circumstances changed in late 2010 and 2020 decades: some people started to perceive fictional superheroines as part of a political agenda. There are some data that points in the direction of such an agenda in the West, for example, in the cases of Wonder Woman and Star Wars films:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40058986.amp
https://x.com/Dataracer117/status/1206792501471764480

Moreover, Captain Marvel was released on March 8th in USA and Spain. So, due to that, someone would believe DB is now part of that political agenda if women get a more relevant role.

If so, I think they are wrong, because even if such an agenda exists in Europe or/and America, that not imply it also exists in Japan. And there is very little data (if so) in the direction if such and agenda in Japan. But despite of that, someone would say that for sure.

[JulieYBM]

'Agenda'—the word used by people who like to complain about women being visible in media—is such a boogeyman word to describe "capitalists are appealing to girls and women by making films starring girls and women!" Like, yeah...so what?

"Women being in film, television and games is political" is such a stupid fucking thing for people to complain about. Everything is political, you're just mad that women get to be in multi-million dollar films, shows and games as lead characters who appeal to people who aren't cishet men.

I find the entire situation to be preposterous.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

I think it's cool seeing an actual witch again (I think Baba was a witch). Panzy has also been a likeable addition to the cast. She can hold her own, but can get reckless, and has a defined personality.
As far as the female characters having a bigger role I don't think it would really change much since Panzy is being heavily featured across the new merch line being teased by Bandai. So it seems that she's gonna be a major player as a supporting character. I think these are the most prominent female characters featured since Bulma.

[Zinnia]

I think these are the most prominent female characters featured since Bulma.

Uhhh, that's Android 18, Videl, GT Pan and then the U6 Saiyans.

She can hold her own, but can get reckless, and has a defined personality.

Pan is exactly that too, but people whine because her hair never went blonde in a 8001th rehashed transformation sequence in a so-called "Super Saiyan Bargain Sale".
Panzy is clearly based off GT Pan down to her interactions with Kid Goku, and wanting to take down every mook they come across.

Pan is such a nice female character for this franchise, saddens me how the fanbase can't see it just because she didn't turn SSJ

[JulieYBM]

When transformations are the series' way of justifying a character's relevancy to the plot, I would say that it makes sense to be upset that in 64 episodes she never obtained a transformation—especially given that she is bith the granddaughter of the main character and the only female Saiyan at the time of the release.

Pan is also there—ultimately—to service the arcs of the men in her life. That's pretty lame.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

I think these are the most prominent female characters featured since Bulma.

Uhhh, that's Android 18, Videl, GT Pan and then the U6 Saiyans.

She can hold her own, but can get reckless, and has a defined personality.

Pan is exactly that too, but people whine because her hair never went blonde in a 8001th rehashed transformation sequence in a so-called "Super Saiyan Bargain Sale".
Panzy is clearly based off GT Pan down to her interactions with Kid Goku, and wanting to take down every mook they come across.

Pan is such a nice female character for this franchise, saddens me how the fanbase can't see it just because she didn't turn SSJ

Let me rephrase that. Relevant outside of fighting. I do appreciate that Panzy so far has been able to hold her own intellectually throughout the story. I imagine that there's going to be some fun interactions between her and Bulma when they start talking tech.

[super michael]

When transformations are the series' way of justifying a character's relevancy to the plot, I would say that it makes sense to be upset that in 64 episodes she never obtained a transformation—especially given that she is bith the granddaughter of the main character and the only female Saiyan at the time of the release.

Pan is also there—ultimately—to service the arcs of the men in her life. That's pretty lame.

Pan is the daughter of both Gohan and Videl, who are both smart and strong. Pan was born when Gohan had SSJ2/Ultimate form.
There was no excuse for Pan not to have any transformation and not to be on the level of Goten and Trunks.

Pan should have been the first female to gain SSJ, which is sad that she never gained it.
I hope in the new story she gains it and even gains something unique, like how Goku has UI, Vegeta UE, Piccolo Orange form and Gohan Beast form.
Right now DBS Super Hero Pan would make a good main character.