Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 10 - Official Discussion Thread

[Koitsukai]

Fun episode, Kuu was a joke, Tamagami-1 is not. Kuu is a singer, he should team up with Krilin.

I wasn't expecting such a detailed explanation of the cosmos from Shin. And definitely not expecting the Dai Makai to be the Big Bang.
Goku probably didn't pay attention, wasn't interested in hearing about it, which makes sense since he is learning about that from Beerus.

Original Namek being deserted was nice to see. So the 2nd Realm is like a big planet that has planet-sized moons.
Neva is the one I want to see more of, I'm assuming he is the official iteration of Zalama, just like Arinsu and Glorio are Mira and Towa.

Zeno and Rymus seem too similar to not be somewhat connected. Toriyama always introduces characters in pairs, Rymus could be the Yang to Zeno's Ying.
I'm almost certain that if the DBS manga returns, it will connect/explain Rymus and Zeno. I don't expect this to be explored in Daima.

Also, nice to see Daima and DBS are connected after all.

[Extreme_kai]

This episode was better than last week, It just kinda sucks that the Namekian homeworld seemed pretty much abandoned(Besides Neva, of course). Hybis has overstayed his welcome for me. I wish he would go away. How old is Hybis? It's kinda creepy that he wants a child Bulma to be his girlfriend. Also, I'm surprised people found his big boob comment funny. It's like, no Hybis. Vegeta doesn't want Bulma to become an adult because he likes big boobs. He doesn't like kids in that way because he's not a disgusting pedo. Bulma's child form has no boobs at all, it has nothing to do with small or big boobs when she's a literal child! I hope they throw him out of the plane.

[nineko]

Excellent episode, for a number of reasons. And at least the two groups are together now, hopefully for real.

The one thing I didn't like was the Neva cliffhanger, I wonder if he's up to do something bad, I'm not sure if he's still aligned with Gomah or not (he was reluctant to join him at first).

[Grimlock]

• The shared position of "highest authority" is similar to Marvel, One Above All and One Below All also hold it. Though in Marvel's case, they are the same entity. Dragon Ball Daima also "subvert expectations" by making the creator of the Multiverse hailing from the "lowest plane of existence".

Forgot to mention but besides this similarity with Marvel, "Rymus" sounds a lot like "Primus", the creator of the Cybertronian race, so some similarities with Transformers as well.

I have to wonder about pun this time, if "Zeno" is "ruler of all", shouldn't the creator also have a name that makes a reference to that? Then again, "primus" is Latin for "first", so there's that. Maybe Toriyama just simply removed the "P".

I want Makaios and Makaioshins to be addressed, please.

What? You want to know who created the Multiverse? Well, here it is!

How can I be mad at that guy!? But I still want that!

[Saiya6Cit]

Oh wow 5 pages today already. Great.

I can't quote everybody but I do read you, all of you.

This episode delivered again. I am getting what I am expecting from it. It is entertaining, it is engaging and it has enjoyable fight scenes with just the right amount of comedy, Dragon Ball, it feels like Dragon Ball and that is what matters.

Any lore that contradicts DB Super is welcomed by me. I disliked Super mainly because of its poor animation, something not happening with Daima. The new characters have won a place in my heart already and the known characters are acting "in character" as they say. So, this show keeps me satisfied.

Talking about Bulma's boobs will always be appreciated by Bulma's fans. Does that joke make this episode be rated M, for adults only? Can you watch this episode with kids? I say yes, kids can watch it with parental guidance and, in this particular case, subtitles help as they can't read that fast hahaha. That being said, it makes me wonder... are we getting more jokes like that? I hope it is nothing more than this. Some people describe DB as erotic. While I agree with the fact that Toriyama's designs for both male and female are very aesthetic and have sex appeal, sex related topics are used with comedy purposes (when Yamcha touches "the dragon balls" or when Goku and krillin dressed as maids, or even when Bulma flashed Roshi, she did not know she was not wearing panties, it was supposed to be funny, not erotic or fetish-like). Japanese have a different view regarding sexuality than the one from us, westerns. All I care for is that they don't turn Daima into something vulgar or something that can't be watched by a whole family. I love group B dynamics btw. Piccolo gets along so well with Vegeta and Bulma, it reflects the years they have been close to each other, by one way or another, I think it is really cool.

Please stick to the topic instead of woke politics.

Asking for trans representation in media, or to respect their pronouns, is not woke politics.

It kinda is, I think, because I am sure there are some trans movies were non-trans people are not represented and that is fine, because it is trans cinema: A non-trans person can watch a trans film, if that person feels like watching it, in the same way a trans person can watch a film where there is no trans person in there. None of the parties must feel the need to demand there is at least one character with such characteristic. However it has been observed some sort of agenda to demand the inclusion of a sector of society, supported by political interests.


There is no need for a SSJ3 Vegeta, as the SSJ3 transformation is one that not even Goku had perfected by the time he used it with Buu. But if that cancels the raibow colored hair transformations from Super, I am in. And if Toei feels like they want to sell the merchandise on a chibi SSJ3 Vegeta, that is something I can also understand.

I will keep on watching for sure, this is my favorite show, the exciment for the next episode, it is something I did not feel since young sheldon was aired.

[AtlasFlame18]

Oh wow 5 pages today already. Great.

I can't quote everybody but I do read you, all of you.

This episode delivered again. I am getting what I am expecting from it. It is entertaining, it is engaging and it has enjoyable fight scenes with just the right amount of comedy, Dragon Ball, it feels like Dragon Ball and that is what matters.

Any lore that contradicts DB Super is welcomed by me. I disliked Super mainly because of its poor animation, something not happening with Daima. The new characters have won a place in my heart already and the known characters are acting "in character" as they say. So, this show keeps me satisfied.

Talking about Bulma's boobs will always be appreciated by Bulma's fans. Does that joke make this episode be rated M, for adults only? Can you watch this episode with kids? I say yes, kids can watch it with parental guidance and, in this particular case, subtitles help as they can't read that fast hahaha. That being said, it makes me wonder... are we getting more jokes like that? I hope it is nothing more than this. Some people describe DB as erotic. While I agree with the fact that Toriyama's designs for both male and female are very aesthetic and have sex appeal, sex related topics are used with comedy purposes (when Yamcha touches "the dragon balls" or when Goku and krillin dressed as maids, or even when Bulma flashed Roshi, she did not know she was not wearing panties, it was supposed to be funny, not erotic or fetish-like). Japanese have a different view regarding sexuality than the one from us, westerns. All I care for is that they don't turn Daima into something vulgar or something that can't be watched by a whole family. I love group B dynamics btw. Piccolo gets along so well with Vegeta and Bulma, it reflects the years they have been close to each other, by one way or another, I think it is really cool.

Please stick to the topic instead of woke politics.

Asking for trans representation in media, or to respect their pronouns, is not woke politics.

It kinda is, I think, because I am sure there are some trans movies were non-trans people are not represented and that is fine, because it is trans cinema: A non-trans person can watch a trans film, if that person feels like watching it, in the same way a trans person can watch a film where there is no trans person in there. None of the parties must feel the need to demand there is at least one character with such characteristic. However it has been observed some sort of agenda to demand the inclusion of a sector of society, supported by political interests.

I want to address this because this is quite frankly an extremely stupid perspective. Trans media does feature non trans people. All the time. You will not find a single piece of trans media that also does not have CIS people. Having trans people or trans identities in a piece of media is not a matter of fulfilling an agenda but is one of acknowledging a group of people who have existed in our societies for centuries. And in a series like Dragon Ball where we consistently deal with godlike character. Having characters that do not align with the traditional gender identities is a perfect fit. Daima in particular has shown that gender for some characters mean something differently than others and in each instance it is done it fleshes out the world our characters are in. Gender identities have been made political but just because they are included in a piece of media does not mean that it was done so as a cynical attempt to appease this "sector of society" as you put it. And quite frankly people should be allowed to demand to see more people like them in the media they consume. They are just as important as the people who are represented.

[AliTheZombie13]

Asking for trans representation in media, or to respect their pronouns, is not woke politics.

It kinda is, I think, because I am sure there are some trans movies were non-trans people are not represented and that is fine, because it is trans cinema: A non-trans person can watch a trans film, if that person feels like watching it, in the same way a trans person can watch a film where there is no trans person in there. None of the parties must feel the need to demand there is at least one character with such characteristic. However it has been observed some sort of agenda to demand the inclusion of a sector of society, supported by political interests.

Except absolutely NOBODY in this thread demanded there be trans representation in Daima, or Dragon Ball, or anything really. We got one dumb joke about Rymus having them/they pronouns, and it triggered someone into accusing them of bringing "woke politics" into the thread.

[JulieYBM]

The thing that bigots never want to acknowledge is that no matter what you do, a minority will appear in a piece of media in some capacity, whether bigots like it or not.


And minorities will have something to say—positive or critical—of that depiction, whether bigots like it or not.

[Issei189]

This episode was much better than the previous one. So now we know that a being called Super Majin Rymus created the Universes and appointed the Glinds as Kaioshin for each Universe. This is something we always wanted to know since DBZ. I suppose the Kaioshin then appointed lower gods like Dai Kaio and the North, South, East and West Kaios. This was good lore.

I already figured that Majin Kuu wasn't going to be much of a challenge against Tamagami 1, but this Majin does have an entertaining personality. I want to see him more.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

Vegeta is a boobs guy. I can respect that.

[Hugo Boss]

Majin K** absolutely feels like he’s cut from the same cloth as Gotenks (a playful, mischievous wildcard that adds levity while still being formidable). Meanwhile, Tamagami #1 does give off strong Jiren vibes, especially with his stoic demeanor and aura of overwhelming power.

As for Daima, for me it feels more like an expansion of concepts introduced in Super rather than an overwrite. The themes of divine influence, multiversal stakes, and quirky character designs seem to carry forward and enrich the overall worldbuilding.

[Mister_Popo]

I’m trying to approach Toriyama’s latest creation with as positive a mindset as possible. Now that we’re about halfway through, I can conclude that Daima is definitely worth watching in several areas. The animation, characters, and world-building are all excellent. Episode 8, for example, delivered one of the best-animated Dragon Ball fights of all time, and the first Kuu vs. Tamagami fight was also quite impressive.

And yet… something feels missing in this series. There’s a certain sense of excitement—a spark—that Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and even Dragon Ball Super all managed to deliver, but which Daima seems to lack. For me, this has to do with the storytelling. Yes, the series provides a wealth of world-building, but to make it satisfying, that world-building needs to go somewhere. Take Episode 10, for example—we got so much lore, yet here we are halfway through the series, and not much has really happened. I’m also missing the underlying tension and sense of threat that’s so essential in a Dragon Ball story.

What’s missing in Daima for me?

Lack of Tension in Key Fights
While Goku’s fight against Tamagami 1 was fantastically animated, it lacked a proper build-up. Starting an episode directly with the fight left little room for tension to grow. In contrast, the Tournament of Power (Goku vs. Jiren) and Broly (Goku and Vegeta vs. Broly) both took the time to gradually heighten the stakes before the actual battles began. Without this build-up, it feels like there’s less at stake in these fights.

Too Much “Travel Time”
A significant portion of Daima is spent showing the characters “on their way” somewhere, often on spaceships. While the dialogue and jokes can be entertaining, there’s a noticeable absence of underlying danger. The scenes don’t carry the weight of a looming threat, which makes the journey feel unimportant.

Repetitive Plot Devices
The series often stalls the narrative with recurring elements—like the spaceship getting damaged, lost, or destroyed. This forces the characters to stop and regroup, providing opportunities for more lore and conversations. While I love lore and world-building, it needs to serve the story. When it feels like filler, it disrupts the flow and reduces the stakes.

Underwhelming Fights Against Weak Opponents
Too many episodes are spent on fights against the Demon King’s guards or other low-level thugs who are clearly no match for the main crew (Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc.). These battles feel unnecessary and fail to provide any real challenge or tension.

Lack of Unpredictability
One of Toriyama’s trademarks is his ability to surprise the audience with unexpected twists. At the end of an episode, you should often find yourself thinking, “Holy crap, how are they going to get out of this?” However, Daima has had very few unpredictable moments so far. These twists are crucial because they keep viewers excited for what comes next.

Minimal Threat to the Characters
There’s no real sense of danger for the protagonists. For example, Dende’s life doesn’t seem to be at risk, and the first Tamagami was defeated with such ease that it’s hard to believe collecting all the Dragon Balls will pose any significant challenge, especially with fusion bugs at their disposal.

Weak Villain Introduction
Majin Kuu, introduced as a supposedly “more perfect” villain, was then wasted in the next episode on a pointless fight that only served to show how weak he is. This undermines the tension and threat he’s meant to represent.

Final Thoughts
Overall, I find Daima an enjoyable series, but at times it feels lacking in substance, even bordering on boring. There’s still hope that the second half will bring everything together and deliver a satisfying conclusion. If the puzzle pieces finally fall into place, the series could redeem itself. However, for now, it’s missing the depth and excitement that made its predecessors so memorable.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Minimal Threat to the Characters
There’s no real sense of danger for the protagonists. For example, Dende’s life doesn’t seem to be at risk, and the first Tamagami was defeated with such ease that it’s hard to believe collecting all the Dragon Balls will pose any significant challenge, especially with fusion bugs at their disposal.

Can you really demand a story to have a sense of danger when said story is taking place before the original story ending, where everyone is fine?

[Mister_Popo]

Minimal Threat to the Characters
There’s no real sense of danger for the protagonists. For example, Dende’s life doesn’t seem to be at risk, and the first Tamagami was defeated with such ease that it’s hard to believe collecting all the Dragon Balls will pose any significant challenge, especially with fusion bugs at their disposal.

Can you really demand a story to have a sense of danger when said story is taking place before the original story ending, where everyone is fine?

While it's true that we know the ultimate outcome, a story can still create tension and stakes by focusing on how events unfold rather than what happens in the end. For example:

Emotional Stakes:
Even if physical danger is limited, emotional challenges, personal growth, or tough decisions can keep the audience invested.

In Dragon Ball Super, during the Tournament of Power, Goku faces emotional stakes when he fights Jiren, as the entire fate of Universe 7 rests on his shoulders. The pressure of possibly losing his universe, the sacrifices of his friends, and the self-reflection Goku goes through create real emotional stakes. The fight isn’t just about winning, as we now the outcome, it’s about saving everything he cares about.

Temporary Setbacks:
Characters can still face meaningful struggles or losses, even if they’ll ultimately succeed.

In Dragon Ball Super, during the Battle of Gods arc, the Z-Fighters experience a temporary setback when they attempt to fight Beerus, the God of Destruction. Despite their combined strength, they are completely outmatched. This creates a sense of helplessness, and even though we know Goku will eventually grow stronger, it forces the Z-Fighters to rethink their strategy. This moment of defeat raises the stakes, as the Z-Fighters must find a way to survive against a being whose power they can barely comprehend.

Unpredictable Paths:
Knowing the ending doesn’t make the journey predictable; surprising twists and creative conflicts can maintain suspense.

In Dragon Ball Super, the Future Trunks Saga exemplifies an unpredictable path. The introduction of Zamasu as a villain was unexpected, but the real shock came when Zamasu fused with Goku Black. This fusion created a powerful, immortal enemy, which immediately raised the stakes. The fusion of these two characters, with their different motivations and powers, made the journey full of unexpected turns, even though the eventual victory was clear. The constant threat of Zamasu’s immortality and the emotional weight of fighting for the survival of the multiverse kept the audience on edge.

What’s more, I felt Dragon Ball Super handled these elements better than Daima in some parts. Even when the stakes weren’t life-or-death, Super built tension through better pacing, fight structure, and surprising moments. For example, the Tournament of Power (Goku vs. Jiren) had a palpable build-up to the final fight, with each match leading to greater stakes. The gradual development of Goku’s strength, his ultimate struggle to defeat Jiren, and the surprising alliances formed during the tournament created a dynamic sense of urgency.

The problem with Daima isn’t the timeline—it’s that it doesn’t fully leverage its storytelling potential to evoke similar tension or surprise.

[JulieYBM]

Minimal Threat to the Characters
There’s no real sense of danger for the protagonists. For example, Dende’s life doesn’t seem to be at risk, and the first Tamagami was defeated with such ease that it’s hard to believe collecting all the Dragon Balls will pose any significant challenge, especially with fusion bugs at their disposal.

Can you really demand a story to have a sense of danger when said story is taking place before the original story ending, where everyone is fine?

Characters don't have to die for there to be tension, they simply need to have stakes to their arcs. They want something important to them, and they hit a wall that denies them what they want, thus upsetting their balance. Establish things for characters to both lose and gain other than their lives.

Or heck, focus entirely on the new characters. Make us scared that Glorio and Panzy will die!

[Majin Buu]

*I see the asshole has been banned*

Loved this episode.

It took all of 5 seconds for me to fall in love with Majin Kuu. I love his goofy ass fighting style. He's far more Buu-like in personality than in appearance and that's awesome. When it became clear that he couldn't beat Tamagami Number One, I was expecting him to pull an absorption since that's what Buu does whenever faced with a stronger opponent- That he straight up quits instead and goes "I'm strong and fast so I'm useful for singing and shopping" was a perfect subversion. Arinsu was all like "You suck!" I love this character and am curious where the story takes him.

Hybis continues to be great. A little weird that he's hitting on Bulma considering she's currently a child, but I took it more as him messing with Vegeta than anything else. Deadpan Hybis being the low-key antagonistic funny man to Vegeta's humorless straight man is a dynamic I continue to love. And turns out Vegeta is a big boobs guy, makes sense for him.

Panzy got another moment to shine, being the one to save the Dragon Ball during the Kraken attack. When she dove in there to get it I was like "Ok, she's gotta have a good reason for deliberately diving back in there when their ship is about to be devoured by a huge monster" and I was correct. Panzy was more on top on things than I was since I wasn't even thinking about the Dragon Ball during that scene (I figured she was going back for that Dragon Ball tracker she had). Panzy rocks.

Kaioshin mentioning he hasn't been back in his homeworld for a long time felt relatable. One of those lines that says a lot while saying little.

I love that Piccolo got a moment to take in setting foot in his ancestral homeworld for the very first time. Despite it being a (near) deserted wreck, him saying it feels "familiar and pleasant" was moving considering this character's history. It's Kami/Piccolo/The Nameless Namekian quietly communing with his roots. That's cool. And it looks like he'll be doing more communing with his roots shortly considering Neva still resides in these decaying ruins of Original Old Namek and is creepily approaching them (that guy is weirdly unsettling). Kaioshin noted that the Daimao were self-serving and treated the Nameks like slaves. Things didn't get much better for them in the outer world considering how they were similarly terrorized by Freeza and his empire for their Dragon Balls. Also, they took some of the trees with them when they left the Demon Realm to resettle in the outer world. That's a neat detail that sheds some light on how they were able to resettle on a New Namek following the destruction of the old one in Freeza arc. I'm guessing this Original Old Namek was destroyed in Buu's initial rampage.

We now know how Nahare became Kaioshin. In hindsight, it makes since why they built up to that explanation- because it ties into the creation story of the Dragon Ball universe(s). Daima is going all out with fleshing out Dragon Ball's cosmology here. Not only do we now have a creation story for the universe, we have a creator-god for it too- The Super Majin Rymus. They look like a older Zeno, implying that Zeno is childlike in demeanor because he's a literal child. Expansion of the Demon Realm by order of the Daimao of the time is the reason the outer world- the Dragon Ball universe, exists; and the Kaioshin are Glinds chosen by Rymus to oversee the newly created universes as gods. Kaioshin mentioned those ancestor Glinds moved to a planet near Rymus, I can't tell if this is referring to the Kaioshin realm or not.

And to toot my own horn for a moment: I mentioned a while back that it would make sense for a theoretical "one more arc from Toriyama after the Buu arc" to flesh out the Kaioshin and their role after the Buu arc introduced them. Daima is more or less that arc and it's doing exactly that and then some. While the Kaioshin being overseers of the universe/mortal world/outer world was established in Super, it makes sense for that information to be revealed to these characters in this context since this story is meant to be a direct follow-up to the story that introduced them.

Abra, Dabra's dad, is the one that restricted travel between the Demon Realm and the outer world, and for basically xenophobic reasons (viewing folks from the outside world as a potential threat). The real world parallels are relatable, to say the least (Also, it's telling that no one here has been complaining about "woke politics" when it comes to all the immigration parallels on display here (which I've made reference to more than once), but it was the observation that gender neutral pronouns were used for a character that triggered a "no woke politics please" reaction. I wonder why....).

Turns out the Glinds left the Demon Realm because they revolted against Abra, though Kaioshin adds this was compounded by the Glinds having no reason to stick around because all the Glind trees were dead by that point. The Glinds are an endangered people and will eventually go extinct. That's pretty sad. We get all of this lore info on Kaioshin and turns out he's a member of a race that's on borrowed time. Perhaps this chain of events will spark something that saves them from extinction?

Lastly, I love how Bulma had the exact reaction I and I assume many others did when Goku told her Kaioshin has a real name. "You have a real name?" I also love that Nahare is mildly confused that people find this such a big deal. He's like "uh, of course I have a real name".

Great episode.

[MisteryOne]

Very good episode. I was very intrigued about Kaioshin story despite being the most literal exposition dump we have gotten, trough ironically enough it felt more natural because of that. But it has some interesting implications (and unsurprisingly, confirms for the people that were in denial about it, than Daima is on continuity with Super), specially concerning Zeno. The Demon Realm itself being older than the multiverse is interesting... just like it's Piccolo's father being old enough to have lived on it. I don't think Toriyama remembered Old Kaioshin on this tho-he was said to be the Kaioshin of fifteen generations prior. How does it work here if Glinds were chosen as Kaioshin when they left the realm, and Namare does remember his life there? How did he spent those fifteen generations? What is even a "generation" if no more Glinds were being born?

But it's so amusing than Daima is doing so much more to actually build the setting of Dragonball than Super ever did in a so much longer timeframe. It also makes Fuu hilarious in Heroes context because he could have just asked a Kaioshin about the origin of the universes.

I'm rather disappointed in Kuu VS Tamagami 1. The outcome doesn't bother me (it really isn't surprising, as interesting as it would have been story wise to defy expectations, they were not going to rob Goku/Vegeta of one big fight like that) but rather than...it doesn't feel like they did enough with it. Is this supposed to hype up number 1? Considering it has a sharp weapon, it's disappointing we don't see it making any cuts or slices at all to Kuu, I was waiting to see if he could regenerate like Buu or not. I don't get the impression he was really so outclassed here either, it felt like an arbitrary end to the fight. That also made me wonder, why did Bibiddi not try to take the Dragonballs with Kid Buu when he "rampaged across the realm"? Or did he, and Buu was unable to? Considering his absorption ability, is rather dumb if he couldn't. I would rather buy he really was unable to control him...

Vegeta is already facing number 2 next episode? Why are we speeding things up so much now? The setting of Second Demon World is arguably more interesting to me than the Third one, why not explore it?

Sad but not surprising to see DB fans genuinely talking about "woke agenda" with they/them pronouns. Please learn your own language rather than making a fool of yourselves like that.

Neva is the one I want to see more of, I'm assuming he is the official iteration of Zalama, just like Arinsu and Glorio are Mira and Towa.

Mira and Towa were never namedropped in any canon material tho. Neva having a different name than Zalama and the later specifically creating the Super DBs only seem to imply they are different characters, unless there is some revelation Neva left the realm and came back. Trough Zalama could have always been a title I guess. Still, Zalama is in Toriyama's canon or whatever you want to call it, Miira and Towa are not really.

Please stick to the topic instead of woke politics.

Asking for trans representation in media, or to respect their pronouns, is not woke politics.

It kinda is, I think, because I am sure there are some trans movies were non-trans people are not represented and that is fine, because it is trans cinema: A non-trans person can watch a trans film, if that person feels like watching it, in the same way a trans person can watch a film where there is no trans person in there. None of the parties must feel the need to demand there is at least one character with such characteristic. However it has been observed some sort of agenda to demand the inclusion of a sector of society, supported by political interests.

I'm sorry but this is so extremely stupid. Not only there is not "trans media wihout cis people" around (if you are really sure about that, please consider where you are getting your sources), but you will realize how stupid this is if you just change the word trans to any other minority, like black people, latinos, indigenous people, or whatever, and then reread your comment. Demanding respect for a minority is not a fucking agenda, it's basic human rights. And asking for representation is not either. They are just asking for real people who exist to be represented and to be easier to connect to. Of course there is no need to force it, but you can apply that logic to literally everything. There is no need to have women fighting in Dragonball either, using that logic. Like seriously, of all series, to complain about non-binary characters in a series that canonically has characters and beings who are not simply male/female... There is no reason to bring politics into this either. Minorities or opressed people wanting to be seen has been a thing for centuries, and unless you argue that everything is political because of challenguing the status quo (which if it had never happened we would still be on feudalism), that's more nonsense.

But even then, no one in the thread was actually advocating for that. It was just a bigot being triggered by the joke use of an actual English pronoun. Still, that you really replied to someone saying "asking to respect them is not agenda" by saying it is really doesn't talk well of you as a person, if you thinking respecting certain people needs to have a complicate reasoning behind it.

[JulieYBM]

It stuck out to me when I was first watching the episode that Piccolo's parent is mentioned several times throughout the episode. Normally, I though think that he was referring to Daimaou, but since he's referring to a parent who might have once lived in the Second Demon Realm, it makes me wonder...do we think that God/Daimaou/Piccolo might actually be a direct descendant of Neva?

What if Piccolo's big fight in the climax of the series is against Neve, his parent?

[capsulecorp]

What a gift! I'm so grateful that Toriyama gave us Daima on his way out. This episode was a real high point of the entire Dragon Ball revival. Can't wait for next week.

What if Piccolo's big fight in the climax of the series is against Neve, his parent?

Yes please.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

I have to imagine that, with how lore focused this has been, Piccolo's status as a reincarnation is kept in mind, with Piccolo Daimao not actually being his father.

He's still the Nameless Namekian, the son of Katas.

Makes me wonder if Katas will actually be explored here.