The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Almighty Majin » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:11 pm

GatoF wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:38 pm 1. Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs Majin Buu (the same Buu who killed Majin Vegeta)
2. Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs Kid Buu
1. Vegeta easily
2. A little more debatable but Vegeta seemed to have the hang on SSJ3 better than Goku did in the Kaioshin realm. Goku had to charge up to full power and still struggled to fight Kid Buu. Vegeta used SSJ3 without much visible issue against Tamagami #2. Perhaps in a more drawn out fight Vegeta would struggle with the form which may be the case with Kid Buu. It goes either way imo, but I am tempted to give the edge to Vegeta. If it were adult SSJ3 Vegeta he would for sure win I think.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:12 pm

GatoF wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:38 pm 1. Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs Majin Buu (the same Buu who killed Majin Vegeta)
2. Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs Kid Buu
1) Vegeta should take this. The Saiyans don't seem to be that much affected by the wish as Shin was.
2) Vegeta losses since a stronger fighter (Boo arc SS3 Goku) lost.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:42 am

Future Kamiccolo versus future andoird 17 and 18.

Assuming the androids are weaker than the present, but don't forget Piccolo also didn't have the extra rigrous training and partner of super saiyan Goku.

The androids either fight as a duo or one on one at first but the other jumps in if Kamiccolo starts to push them.

Can he kill 1 or none?

Round 2. The rest of the Dragon Team: Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Kuririn, Chaozu, Kid Gohan and Base future Vegeta are there to try and hold one off for as long as poss so he can potentially try to solo one before the other is back on him.

I guess this comes down to how much did Piccolo gain from intense trainin vs what he got relative to the casual training he would have had.
Plus how much weaker the future androids are, which is a good bit but hard to quantify precisely.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:45 pm

Majin Duu vs. Magetta
Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs. Frost (1st form)

Who wins?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:01 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:45 pm Majin Duu vs. Magetta
Daima SSJ3 Vegeta vs. Frost (1st form)

Who wins?
Magetta is over 50 times stronger than SS3 Gotenks. Duu has no chance at all unless he absorbs him.
If Frost has the same form boosts as Freeza then he should have this since his Assault form wasn't that much weaker than base Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Yuji » Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:16 am

Base Broly (not humanoid Oozaru/Ikari, just regular base) runs the gauntlet:

1. Namek Freeza
2. #16
3. Perfect Cell
4. SS2 Majin Vegeta
5. Kid Boo
6. Boohan
7. BoG SSG Goku
8. U6 arc Hit

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Post by AtlasFlame18 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:33 am

Yuji wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:16 am Base Broly (not humanoid Oozaru/Ikari, just regular base) runs the gauntlet:

1. Namek Freeza
2. #16
3. Perfect Cell
4. SS2 Majin Vegeta
5. Kid Boo
6. Boohan
7. BoG SSG Goku
8. U6 arc Hit
He stops at U6 Arc Hit. I don't think he'll have the Battle IQ to figure out the Time Skip nor does he have the sheer power in base to overpower it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:20 am

Yuji wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:16 am Base Broly (not humanoid Oozaru/Ikari, just regular base) runs the gauntlet:

1. Namek Freeza
2. #16
3. Perfect Cell
4. SS2 Majin Vegeta
5. Kid Boo
6. Boohan
7. BoG SSG Goku
8. U6 arc Hit
Seeing how Broly was able to keep up with SS Vegeta (I like to assume by the Broly movie, Toriyama had his saiyans use the full scope of the blond forms in their SS1 form, like he envisioned them doing):

1) Freeza is oneshot.
2) 16 is easily overwhelmed.
3) Cell can't keep up.
4) I reckon is Majin Vegeta the one that can land the first hit of the day on Broly.
5) Kid Boo should make Broly work for the W, maybe needing to turn his eyes yellow for a moment. But he also might be subject to absorption, Broly is reckless and would easily fall for it.
6) I don't think he can take on Buuhan, not without the Ikari power up. However, Broly withstood a blast from SSG Vegeta, so he might be able to take whatever Buuhan throws his way, even though he might not be able to do much to Buuhan. I see him getting absorbed.

7) The same thing happenes as in the movie, SSG easily overpowers Base Broly.
8) Hit would destroy Broly, probably not even Ikari Broly would be able to keep up with that hax.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:58 am

In Broly’s training arc, he basically manages to make his way through several Saiyan tiers. He starts fighting Base Goku, then SS Vegeta and, finally, Ultimate Gohan. He even gets to fight Beast Gohan for a while, but he needed Super Saiyan to keep up. I would say Base Broly can manage something against SSG Goku by the time he controls his hidden powers, since he can parry Ultimate Gohan. I just don’t see how he could beat Hit, as he is kind of difficult for a brawler to handle.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by daniel1 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:03 am

Yuji wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:16 am Base Broly (not humanoid Oozaru/Ikari, just regular base) runs the gauntlet:

1. Namek Freeza
2. #16
3. Perfect Cell
4. SS2 Majin Vegeta
5. Kid Boo
6. Boohan
7. BoG SSG Goku
8. U6 arc Hit
Is this assuming he goes into every fight fresh?
1. Broly wins
2. Broly wins
3. Broly wins
4. Broly wins
5. Probably Kid Buu
6. Broly wins
7. Probably Goku
8. Probably Hit

5, 7, 8 could all be close matches because he fought a post-ToP Vegeta and pushed him to SSG in his base form. Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't. The other ones are clear victories, though.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:36 pm

SSj3 Daima Vegeta vs. Lavender
Yuzun (base) vs. Tamagami Number Two
Majin Duu vs. Miza Iwaza Kikaza Fusion

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gogetason » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:02 pm

Luffy(gear 3+haki) vs Kraken(from db diama)
Shanks vs the giant dog (from diama)
doflamingo vs Giant child (from diama)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:34 pm

Yuji wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:16 am Base Broly (not humanoid Oozaru/Ikari, just regular base) runs the gauntlet:

1. Namek Freeza
2. #16
3. Perfect Cell
4. SS2 Majin Vegeta
5. Kid Boo
6. Boohan
7. BoG SSG Goku
8. U6 arc Hit
By the end of the film base Broly is just 10 times weaker than SSB Goku so he stops at Hit. The Boo's might absorb him though.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:53 pm

Gogetason wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:02 pm Luffy(gear 3+haki) vs Kraken(from db diama)
Shanks vs the giant dog (from diama)
doflamingo vs Giant child (from diama)
Goku had to go Super Saiyan against the Giant and Kraken. Last time I check, no one in One Piece is at Planet Buster level of power. I still remember that it was usually debated that someone like Raditz could solo the One Piece universe.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gogetason » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:15 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:53 pm
Gogetason wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:02 pm Luffy(gear 3+haki) vs Kraken(from db diama)
Shanks vs the giant dog (from diama)
doflamingo vs Giant child (from diama)
Goku had to go Super Saiyan against the Giant and Kraken. Last time I check, no one in One Piece is at Planet Buster level of power. I still remember that it was usually debated that someone like Raditz could solo the One Piece universe.
Yea but luffy defeated a Kraken from one piece with one hit which was about the same size...

Could be toei animation Akira trying to tell us db characters just arent as strong as we thought and maybe just have absurd techniques.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:26 pm

A Kraken in One Piece is not the same as the one in Dragon Ball. They are both from different universe and have different power. The demon relam is filled with powerful life form that are different than what exist in the mortal relam.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gogetason » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:20 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:26 pm A Kraken in One Piece is not the same as the one in Dragon Ball. They are both from different universe and have different power. The demon relam is filled with powerful life form that are different than what exist in the mortal relam.
Its implied by the narrative they are only strong because they are Huge.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:08 pm

Who is the strongest in the TOP that Majin Duu can beat?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:58 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:08 pm Who is the strongest in the TOP that Majin Duu can beat?
Basil.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SonTao » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:26 pm

Hypothetical Gauntlet time!

Kid Trunks runs a gauntlet of Early Z Villains, with an appropriate amount of rest in between. He still has a jokey, cocky personality--this is pre-Buu saga, no SSJ. But, depending on circumstances, he could unlock it.

1. Trunks fiddles around with his mom's time machine, and jumps through an alternate timeline! He comes on Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta and Cui by chance. All jump Trunks to try and make it fair... for them.

2. Trunks seeks out Frieza and co--but only finds Zarbon and Dodoria! Time to throw hands!

3. Frieza deploys the Ginyu Squadron! How does Trunks fair against them...?

4. If Trunks gets past the Ginyu Squad... Frieza himself steps up to the plate! How does the Capsule Corp Golden Boy fair against the emperor of the universe?

The stage is simple for each fight--a basic Frieza Force planet, with an environment similar to Earth's to keep this uncomplicated. Frieza can go to his 100% power state. Rest between each fight is a day, with the exception of Ginyu Squad --> Frieza. Trunks has no time to rest between them.
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