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Super or Daima

Post by TechExpert2021 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:06 am

As of writing this post, we are now 4 episodes away from Dragon Ball Daima's final episode. And this year marks 10 years since Dragon Ball Super (both manga and anime) began.

Which series do you prefer? Dragon Ball Super or Dragon Ball Daima? I'll edit this post to count the votes.

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Daima: 8 (PrinceVegetto, Dragon Ball Ireland, Mr Baggins, BootyCheeksJohnson, super michael, kemuri07, Majin Buu, Hugo Boss)
Both equally: 0
Total amount of votes: 31

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by PrinceVegetto » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:41 am

Daima.

It feels way more authentic to what DB is all about than Super.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:07 pm

Depends, are you talking about the movies or the TV anime?
Super Movies ('cept RoF) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daima >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abyss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another abyss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super anime/manga.

Daima has the exact the same problem as the Super anime/manga, it very much feels like it was intended to be a standalone movie extended way beyond what's acceptable for a TV anime. If Daima was a movie, though, it would be even better than the Super Movies by sheer virtue of having a story.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by TechExpert2021 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:08 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:07 pm Depends, are you talking about the movies or the TV anime?
I'm talking about the Dragon Ball Super TV anime.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:09 pm

TechExpert2021 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:08 pm
AliTheZombie13 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:07 pm Depends, are you talking about the movies or the TV anime?
I'm talking about the Dragon Ball Super TV anime.
Then Daima.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:41 pm

Daima, it's not perfect but the story is better thought out than any of the arcs in Super.

I also tried to rewatch Super not too long ago but fell off around the Universe 6 tournament.

It also helps that Daima is a shorter series, so by episode 20 the payoff will likely be better than just getting into the middle of another movie retelling.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Zephyr » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:11 pm

I'd need to rewatch Super to be sure, but as of right now I'd definitely say Super, even if Daima absolutely washes it in terms of visuals.

Turning characters into kids is not a plot hook I've ever been a fan of, and Freeza becoming a martial arts rival and begrudging ally is more interesting than anything Daima has even flirted with. I'll also take a sloppily executed story about martial artists cultivating strength over a sloppily executed road trip story.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Extreme_kai » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:19 pm

Super. Super may have been bad, but at least it kept me entertained. The worst thing you can do is bore me, and that's exactly what Daima has done so far. Daima also gets negatives for them being turned into children. I find myself caring less about the story or action because of it. I would have loved a show where the heroes didn't have access to Ki, and instead had to use traditional martial arts on their journey and were kept as adults.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Mister_Popo » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:49 pm

It's difficult to compare a long-running anime with 131 episodes to a short one with 20 episodes. Daima has a better overall production value than Super. Super was great at its highs, but also terrible at its lows. If i am really honest and let my personal preference speak? I try to make the best of the Daima anime, but I still prefer Super. Although Daima has more consistent animation, Super's highs (Zamasu arc, Tournament of Power) had me looking forward to the next episode more than Daima. It really had me hooked at times. Like Daima, Super introduced a lot of new lore, but it actively wove it into the story instead of just talking about it.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:22 pm

Super, without a doubt. With Super I found myself constantly speculating and theorizing about next week's episode and always tuning in on Sunday morning to watch it. With Daima it's whatever. I don't hate it, I'm just apathetic towards it.

How can I put it... hmm... I feel nothing towards Daima.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:28 pm

Super. I say this even with 4 eps of Daima left to go.

I, personally, love the concept of Goku and Vegeta as classmates training at Beerus's place under Whis. Theorizing over Goku Black before we had the full story was a blast. I really like the idea of Planet Salad even though we never got to visit (just means I get to keep my headcanons for it; oh well). I like that we have a rebooted Brolli even though he hasn't gotten used much. Vegeta struggling to learn how to teleport was fun. I enjoy the running gag with the hands. Gohan's new messy haircut fits him so well. I like that Pan and Piccolo hang out. I've enjoyed the majority of the new forms even if they are slight alterations. I want to watch or read a Black Freeza arc. Green couch. Vegeta wanting to give Bra a saiyan name. The Son vegetable farm. Vegetto vs Fused Zamasu. Rosé. Etc.


Daima's so vanilla. It's beautiful to see in motion, but it's got very little for me. Them being turned into children didn't help, but it's not the only reason at all why I prefer Super.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Mr Baggins » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:31 pm

TechExpert2021 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:08 pm I'm talking about the Dragon Ball Super TV anime.
As someone who likes the movies and manga a fair bit: I genuinely struggle to think of anything worse.

Daima and it's not even close. Same answer for the "GT or Daima" thread.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Yuji » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:56 pm

Even Super's worst iteration, the anime, is much more enjoyable than Daima, unfortunately.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by YamiGoku » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:57 pm

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:38 pm

Super has queer characters (Black, Zamazu, Kale, Caulifla) and babygirls (Jiren), of course I'm going to go with Super. 🫡

(Also, I just think the writing is better in that there’s at least some stronger structuring).
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:18 pm

There's no comparison for me and I also don't think its fair for Daima, because its only one story arc and 20 episodes.
Excluding Heroes, I like all the other DB animes more than Daima.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Thani » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:24 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:18 pm There's no comparison for me and I also don't think its fair for Daima, because its only one story arc and 20 episodes.
Excluding Heroes, I like all the other DB animes more than Daima.
This. The two shows are very different in tone and story, so it's really not a fair comparison. For what they're worth, both shows can be enjoyable.

If you're looking for an adventure show, Daima scratches that itch.

If you're looking for more DBZ-esque action, than it's obvious Super is what you want.

That said, I'm on the fence of the people that prefer Super, mostly for the characters... not the manga, though. I don't really like the characterizations there, except, I'd say, Jiren. I particularly loathe what they did with Black and Zamasu in the manga. And poor Hit...

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:38 pm Super has queer characters (Black, Zamazu, Kale, Caulifla) and babygirls (Jiren), of course I'm going to go with Super. 🫡
Until proven otherwise, I'm putting Whis in there.
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Re: Super or Daima

Post by Thani » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:42 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:36 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:38 pm Super has queer characters (Black, Zamazu, Kale, Caulifla) and babygirls (Jiren), of course I'm going to go with Super. 🫡
Until proven otherwise, I'm putting Whis in there.
As queer or as babygirl? Because, imo, I'd say yes to both.

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Re: Super or Daima

Post by BootyCheeksJohnson » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:08 pm

I'm having consistently more fun with Daima so I guess I'll go with that. It's not a brilliant show by any means, but if I had to rewatch it in full I could probably do a second watch without too much complaining.
For Super it did get more ambitious and have some cool moments, but I will never sit through the Tournament of Power again. Also the Battle of Gods arc was a huge downgrade from the movie. Resurrection F could've actually benefited from some extra content. Like seeing the characters actually discover Super Saiyan Blue, or show more of what it's like living with Whis. Maybe some scenes of Freeza adjusting to not being the strongest being in the universe on principle. Instead we got way too much time dedicated to the fighting without any substance to it. It was just a mess all around.
Super reminds me of a Marvel movie in that you could probably get the same amount of value from watching a best of compilation as you would from watching the show in full.
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