Goku's New Form in Daima!

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by BernardoCairo » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:29 am

Something tells me that this transformation will have some kind of element on Goku's forearm...
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

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Chuquita wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:16 pm I saw something that looked like
last night, but couldn't tell if it was official or fanart.

I was really hoping we wouldn't get a new form in this series, not because I don't like them, but because of how underdeveloped most of the modern forms have been. There's no more build up or hard work needed to get them, they just pop up out of nowhere, and this new form will likely be no different.

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:42 am

Chuquita wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:16 pm I saw something that looked like
last night, but couldn't tell if it was official or fanart.
Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:41 am I was really hoping we wouldn't get a new form in this series, not because I don't like them, but because of how underdeveloped most of the modern forms have been. There's no more build up or hard work needed to get them, they just pop up out of nowhere, and this new form will likely be no different.
I agree that ssj3 Vegeta came out of nowhere it felt.

I'm not against new forms, but whatever it is today I hope they explain why it never appears in Super since they went out of their way to place Daima before DBS in the timeline.

I hope the form is something I'll like, but who knows. I hope what I saw was just a false, ai-generated thing. I'll find out this evening.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:18 am

Chuquita wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:42 amI agree that ssj3 Vegeta came out of nowhere it felt.
I remember everyone lost their mind over Ssj3 Vegeta. As a fan of the character myself (clearly lol), I also wanted to see him use it, just not like this. The problem I have with Daima's version of it is the lack of emotional weight or struggle behind it like the forms he reached in the original series (Ssj, Grade 2, Ssj2 (Majin), & Ssj4). Considering how much time Daima wastes on things like walking around, fighting henchmen, fixing the plane, etc..., I can't help but feel some of that time would've been better spent foreshadowing/ building up to certain key moments in the show. First we got a Ssj3 Vegeta out of nowhere and today we might get some sort of Ssj4 Goku thrown at us with 0 build up.

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by tinlunlau » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:14 am

I thought it was fake until I saw this. Spoilers ahead

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15BS6aAK1U/
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:20 am

Lol it's Super Saiyan 4 Limit Break from Super Dragon Ball Heroes.

I wonder what the official name is going to be?
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Post by son_razor » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:21 am

Everything looks fine besides the hair ending before his wrist bands. But other than that, it just makes no sense.

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Jord » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:21 am

tinlunlau wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:14 am I thought it was fake until I saw this. Spoilers ahead

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15BS6aAK1U/
Yeah, that looks pretty bad. The chibi look doesn't fit at all.

son_razor wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:21 am Everything looks fine besides the hair ending before his wrist bands. But other than that, it just makes no sense.
It makes it look like some sort of T-shirt of which the sleeves are too short.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:23 am

I'll wait until I see the episode before forming a final opinion on it, but my initial reaction is that it's a major downgrade compared to

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:23 am

tinlunlau wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:14 am I thought it was fake until I saw this. Spoilers ahead

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15BS6aAK1U/
I don't want to open that, I want to see it animated with my very own eyes. Please, nobody put this on an IMG tag here until after the episode has aired.

But (sigh)... This is the last thing Toriyama ever worked on... This is what we're getting.

20 episodes of a poor excuse of a story, with plot threads ranging from Pansy wanting to be a hero, the poor slavery conditions of the 3rd Demon Realm, Glorio struggling with his loyalties, Neva faking being senile, Arinsu apparently having much bigger plans for the Demon Realm... And it all boils down to "LOOK HOW COOL AND AMAZING AND BADASS SSJ4 IS OMFG!!!!!!! AREN'T YOU HAPPY DB FANS????!!!!!!"

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by SupremeKai25 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:24 am

As I imagined, it looks very ugly. The huge pecs and muscles just don't fit the chibi 5 years old model. How anyone could take this form seriously is beyond me.

Goku had better turn into an adult in ep.19 or this show is sadly going to end in a disappointment for me.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Xeogran » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:25 am

Why didn't he go adult..
Of course they had to be different for the sake of being different, just like SSJ3 Vegeta's hair.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:25 am

Jord wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:21 amYeah, that looks pretty bad. The chibi look doesn't fit al all.
Looking at this, I completely agree. This is just another example of the current people behind the scenes not understanding why the original run worked as well as it did.

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Jord » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:26 am

SupremeKai25 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:24 am As I imagined, it looks very ugly. The huge pecs and muscles just don't fit the chibi 5 years old model. How anyone could take this form seriously is beyond me.

Goku had better turn into an adult in ep.19 or this show is sadly going to end in a disappointment for me.
He has too, right? Since it's a midquel and he's just an adult later on in the timeline, either in Super or Z.

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by SupremeKai25 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:28 am

Jord wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:26 am
SupremeKai25 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:24 am As I imagined, it looks very ugly. The huge pecs and muscles just don't fit the chibi 5 years old model. How anyone could take this form seriously is beyond me.

Goku had better turn into an adult in ep.19 or this show is sadly going to end in a disappointment for me.
He has too, right? Since it's a midquel and he's just an adult later on in the timeline, either in Super or Z.
I mean while using the new form, or this form is never going to look cool to me.

It already loses many points since it's... you know... well everyone will find out soon enough. Ugly. :sick:
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:28 am

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:23 am
tinlunlau wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:14 am I thought it was fake until I saw this. Spoilers ahead

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15BS6aAK1U/
I don't want to open that, I want to see it animated with my very own eyes. Please, nobody put this on an IMG tag here until after the episode has aired.

But (sigh)... This is the last thing Toriyama ever worked on... This is what we're getting.

20 episodes of a poor excuse of a story, with plot threads ranging from Pansy wanting to be a hero, the poor slavery conditions of the 3rd Demon Realm, Glorio struggling with his loyalties, Neva faking being senile, Arinsu apparently having much bigger plans for the Demon Realm... And it all boils down to "LOOK HOW COOL AND AMAZING AND BADASS SSJ4 IS OMFG!!!!!!! AREN'T YOU HAPPY DB FANS????!!!!!!"

I hate this show.
Then stop watching and following these threads. There's plenty of more fun things to do than repeat the same negative feelings over-and-over.

I've already established what I have a problem with with this series, so I'm trying not to do the insane thing of repeating the same thing over-and-over.

Anyway, the new form is cute. I hope it gets a name next episode, though lol
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Post by son_razor » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:29 am

I thought Neva was reversing the wish on him and turning him back into an adult but......

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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:31 am

Xeogran wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:25 am Why didn't he go adult..
Of course they had to be different for the sake of being different, just like SSJ3 Vegeta's hair.
Super Saiyan 3 Gokuu, Gotenks and Vegeta all have different hair from one another.
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Re: Goku's New Form in Daima!

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:31 am

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:23 am20 episodes of a poor excuse of a story, with plot threads ranging from Pansy wanting to be a hero, the poor slavery conditions of the 3rd Demon Realm, Glorio struggling with his loyalties, Neva faking being senile, Arinsu apparently having much bigger plans for the Demon Realm... And it all boils down to "LOOK HOW COOL AND AMAZING AND BADASS SSJ4 IS OMFG!!!!!!! AREN'T YOU HAPPY DB FANS????!!!!!!"
This is a perfect summary of the vast majority of modern DB. They are always introducing interesting concepts, but end up throwing them away in favor of a new form. The sad thing is, everyone is going to act like this is the best thing since Namek, ignoring how underdeveloped and underwhelming it is.

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Post by Xeogran » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:32 am

JulieYBM wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:31 am
Xeogran wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:25 am Why didn't he go adult..
Of course they had to be different for the sake of being different, just like SSJ3 Vegeta's hair.
Super Saiyan 3 Gokuu, Gotenks and Vegeta all have different hair from one another.
How is Gotenks' different? If it was, the officials would have been informed about this and be aware that 3 is supposed to look different on everyone. But everyone had the same SSJ3 in all kinds of media until now.
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