Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 18 - Official Discussion Thread

[JulieYBM]

Nobody gives a fuck about you peoples opinion on SSG and SSB being superior. There is no multiplier nor statements on this form as of yet to begin with, and Goku cannot use it on his own as of yet.

Heroes anime is made by the same people who made DBGT(anime only) and has the original SS4(anime only) which both are not canon same as Heroes. So in the only medium where both forms are actually presented TOGETHER at the same time SS4 = SSB, and SS4LB = UI Sign. We see this with Goku Xeno and Goku CC's final battle. Idk why you people care so much about that.

Dragon Ball GT and Super Dragon Ball Heroes do not have the same production staff, for the record.

[QuakingStar]

Sorry about that Hulk10, that response wasn't for you.

[Hulk10]

Sorry about that Hulk10, that response wasn't for you.

Its fine. I was contributing too.

[QuakingStar]

Nobody gives a fuck about you peoples opinion on SSG and SSB being superior. There is no multiplier nor statements on this form as of yet to begin with, and Goku cannot use it on his own as of yet.

Heroes anime is made by the same people who made DBGT(anime only) and has the original SS4(anime only) which both are not canon same as Heroes. So in the only medium where both forms are actually presented TOGETHER at the same time SS4 = SSB, and SS4LB = UI Sign. We see this with Goku Xeno and Goku CC's final battle. Idk why you people care so much about that.

Dragon Ball GT and Super Dragon Ball Heroes do not have the same production staff, for the record.

Wasn't it Yamamuro who directed the Heroes anime and isn't he the one who made SS4 in GT? Toei Animation made both series and if I remember correctly Bird Studios was involved in some fashion. Regardless Toei is an official licensor for DB content and they made Heroes anime which is non-canon to begin with, same with GT.

[JulieYBM]

Nobody gives a fuck about you peoples opinion on SSG and SSB being superior. There is no multiplier nor statements on this form as of yet to begin with, and Goku cannot use it on his own as of yet.

Heroes anime is made by the same people who made DBGT(anime only) and has the original SS4(anime only) which both are not canon same as Heroes. So in the only medium where both forms are actually presented TOGETHER at the same time SS4 = SSB, and SS4LB = UI Sign. We see this with Goku Xeno and Goku CC's final battle. Idk why you people care so much about that.

Dragon Ball GT and Super Dragon Ball Heroes do not have the same production staff, for the record.

Wasn't it Yamamuro who directed the Heroes anime and isn't he the one who made SS4 in GT? Toei Animation made both series and if I remember correctly Bird Studios was involved in some fashion. Regardless Toei is an official licensor for DB content and they made Heroes anime which is non-canon to begin with, same with GT.

Super Saiyan 4 was designed by Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi, the Dragon Ball Z Episodes #200-291 and Dragon Ball GT character designer. I'm not sure if Yamamuro Tadayoshi was an uncredited series director for Super Dragon Ball Heroes or not—it’s likely, given how heavily involved he was—but Yamamuro was not a director for Dragon Ball GT, nor did Tomioka Atsuhiro write for Dragon Ball GT as he did for Super Dragon Ball Heroes.

[Cursed Lemon]

Daima is such an unbelievably confused show.

You make them kids - the implicit goal is that you want to focus on adventure and possibly not so much combat, but then you practice surface-level world building and present us with the ugliest and most unappealing environments the DB franchise has probably ever seen. Then you decide to actually have somewhat regular combat, but you completely forget to add stakes and you reintroduce old strong forms and completely cancel out the entire exercise of making the characters kids in the first place. And to top it all off, your antagonists have no personality whatsoever.

What is the actual motivation to watch this show

[ZeroNeonix]

Daima is such an unbelievably confused show.

You make them kids - the implicit goal is that you want to focus on adventure and possibly not so much combat, but then you practice surface-level world building and present us with the ugliest and most unappealing environments the DB franchise has probably ever seen. Then you decide to actually have somewhat regular combat, but you completely forget to add stakes and you reintroduce old strong forms and completely cancel out the entire exercise of making the characters kids in the first place. And to top it all off, your antagonists have no personality whatsoever.

What is the actual motivation to watch this show

Much like GT. They couldn't commit to the OG Dragon Ball style adventures, and eventually end up going back to Z style battle-centric stuff.

This is basically GT 2.0. Despite its flaws, I really hate GT, so I consider this an improvement. But maybe in the future, they shouldn't write the plot in the middle of animating it? lol

[Chuquita]

The only motivation I've got for it at this point is it's the final Toriyama-related db thing. And the finale spectical, that's pretty good.

That they cared so little about having a full story that they worked on it while animating is so disappointing.

Daima most likely won't be something I'd ever come back to after it's over. I enjoyed the podcasts and YouTube videos people made about Daima, I enjoyed having new stuff to draw, I enjoyed reading and posting on this forum over the past 18 weeks. So there were good things. And there's still 2 weeks to go.

[JonSnowFan17]

All the internet is raving about this episode and predictably this forum is miserable and negative as usual, i don’t even know what’s the point of having a forum from a franchise you clearly don’t like anymore and outgrew it, it’s just like Star Wars fans, a bunch of miserable people circlejerking each other about who is more miserable than the other, pretty pathetic and sad !

[JulieYBM]

All the internet is raving about this episode and predictably this forum is miserable and negative as usual, i don’t even know what’s the point of having a forum from a franchise you clearly don’t like anymore and outgrew it, it’s just like Star Wars fans, a bunch of miserable people circlejerking each other about who is more miserable than the other, pretty pathetic and sad !

Blanket statements will absolutely endear your position to all of us, I'm sure.

[Hulk10]

All the internet is raving about this episode and predictably this forum is miserable and negative as usual, i don’t even know what’s the point of having a forum from a franchise you clearly don’t like anymore and outgrew it, it’s just like Star Wars fans, a bunch of miserable people circlejerking each other about who is more miserable than the other, pretty pathetic and sad !

The wikia is worse.

[AliTheZombie13]

All the internet is raving about this episode and predictably this forum is miserable and negative as usual, i don’t even know what’s the point of having a forum from a franchise you clearly don’t like anymore and outgrew it, it’s just like Star Wars fans, a bunch of miserable people circlejerking each other about who is more miserable than the other, pretty pathetic and sad !

OK... What are you doing here, then?
If a place seems too negative for your mental health, the best thing to do is to ignore it and focus on more positive spaces.

[TechExpert2021]

The wikia is worse.

Wikia is now Fandom since 2016, although the Wikia name was fully retired in 2021.

[fadeddreams5]

Daima is such an unbelievably confused show.

You make them kids - the implicit goal is that you want to focus on adventure and possibly not so much combat, but then you practice surface-level world building and present us with the ugliest and most unappealing environments the DB franchise has probably ever seen. Then you decide to actually have somewhat regular combat, but you completely forget to add stakes and you reintroduce old strong forms and completely cancel out the entire exercise of making the characters kids in the first place. And to top it all off, your antagonists have no personality whatsoever.

What is the actual motivation to watch this show

The purpose of them being kids was because Toriyama simply wanted chibi designs. Within the context of the story, it contributed nothing. If they actually became weaker and needed to unlock their SSJ forms all over again, or new techniques, that would have been better.

Actually, scratch the "they". It should have only been Goku, Panzy, Glorio, and Shin. Piccolo, in particular, is the most pointless character in all of this.

[AliTheZombie13]

Piccolo, in particular, is the most pointless character in all of this.

What about Bulma? Bulma has done nothing except throw a capsule this entire show.

[fadeddreams5]

Piccolo, in particular, is the most pointless character in all of this.

What about Bulma? Bulma has done nothing except throw a capsule this entire show.

Her too. I would have preferred Young Roshi flirting with demon chicks at the bar.

[Hulk10]

The wikia is worse.

Wikia is now Fandom since 2016, although the Wikia name was fully retired in 2021.

You get my point though, right?

[TechExpert2021]

The wikia is worse.

Wikia is now Fandom since 2016, although the Wikia name was fully retired in 2021.

You get my point though, right?

Yes.

[Hulk10]

Wikia is now Fandom since 2016, although the Wikia name was fully retired in 2021.

You get my point though, right?

Yes.

Good. Its so annoying how people on Fandom are so rude.

[Cursed Lemon]

All the internet is raving about this episode and predictably this forum is miserable and negative as usual, i don’t even know what’s the point of having a forum from a franchise you clearly don’t like anymore and outgrew it, it’s just like Star Wars fans, a bunch of miserable people circlejerking each other about who is more miserable than the other, pretty pathetic and sad !

Really, a Star Wars comparison?

The franchise that just got a series canceled after the first season due to low viewership?