How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

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How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by Yasai9001 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:39 pm

Pretty much what the title says. We know that there aren't any queens or anything on Planet Vegeta, but could it at least be possible Vegeta would know his mother? I doubt his dad would mate with a weak Saiyan female, more likely someone who could have been his age or older, and perhaps one of the strongest low-class Saiyans of Planet Vegeta. Not sure.

But regardless, Prince Vegeta's duties were to be a fighter and to be prepped for eventually ruling Planet Vegeta. I doubt he would require time to be spent with his mother, who was more than likely a warrior, but could it be possible she knew of her during when she had Tarble or anything. Your thoughts? Royal bloodline is looked at as more important than just how other Saiyans use each other to procreate and conceive offspring.

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Re: How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by Dr. Casey » Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:11 pm

Very likely, I would think. We know close to nothing about Vegeta's life before showing up in the manga, but there's nothing to indicate that his mother died prior to the planet's destruction. The mom is absent from the anime flashbacks to him as a child, but those cover such a small amount of time that she could have been alive and well, just not present at that exact moment. We don't know much about Saiyan societal structure, but I assume the families stay together in a traditional nuclear family sense - the idea was nothing new to Vegeta after getting with Bulma and having two kids anyway.
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Re: How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by Yasai9001 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:47 pm

Dr. Casey wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:11 pm Very likely, I would think. We know close to nothing about Vegeta's life before showing up in the manga, but there's nothing to indicate that his mother died prior to the planet's destruction. The mom is absent from the anime flashbacks to him as a child, but those cover such a small amount of time that she could have been alive and well, just not present at that exact moment. We don't know much about Saiyan societal structure, but I assume the families stay together in a traditional nuclear family sense - the idea was nothing new to Vegeta after getting with Bulma and having two kids anyway.
Makes sense - I wouldn't expect Vegeta to be all too close to her, but at least know and acknowledge the woman. Since he was busy fighting and she likely was, too, I don't think they'd have many opportunities to grow closer. But I like to think she was a very strong and capable warrior and also probably a borderline midget.

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Re: How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by theherodjl » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:17 pm

I'm not sure if Vegeta actually did know his mother. I'm sure he did know of her, but he has never mentioned anything about her whether it's positive, negative, or anywhere in-between. As far as I know, Vegeta's mother has not even been mentioned in any filler scene which suggests that she may have merely been some Saiyan woman who agreed to carry the King's child, and then she parted ways with Vegeta and his dad once she gave birth. The Saiyans have never been a race that put a lot of sentimentality towards maternity and so outside of Gine, I can't imagine there being many other examples of Saiyan mothers holding prominence in their society.
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Re: How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by nineko » Sat Mar 22, 2025 4:26 am

Vegeta never mentioned other brothers besides Tarble, but then again, he never mentioned Tarble himself for literal hundreds of episodes, so we can't rule out the possibility that the king had a harem of concubines, given the aforementioned lack of affectivity of the Saiyan society.

Then again, Vegeta did make a big deal about his royal bloodline, especially in the early Z episodes, though this is logistically problematic if there's only one royal family on the whole planet (it's not like the real world, where e.g. the king of France can marry the queen of Germany), making his mother a possible cousin of his father. And that would explain while he never talks about her if he found out that that's a discouraged practice on Earth.

Something which should be noted is that Vegeta only mentions "my father and your father" in his dying monologue to Goku on Namek, not "my parents and your parents". On one hand, this is in line with him knowing who Bardock is in Granolah's arc (since many people seem to bicker about canon these days, this is a rare instance of pieces nicely falling together), but on the other hand, Gine does exist now, so I don't really know.

I would welcome a prequel series where they explore things unseen before, such as Goku's early years with Gohan senior and life on planet Vegeta. In fact, I think such a series would have the potential to be more interesting than all those midquels crammed into "10 years of peace". Too bad that's never going to happen because they need rainbow-colored hair to sell merchandise.

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Re: How likely is it that Vegeta at least knew his mother?

Post by Yasai9001 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 11:07 am

nineko wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 4:26 am Vegeta never mentioned other brothers besides Tarble, but then again, he never mentioned Tarble himself for literal hundreds of episodes, so we can't rule out the possibility that the king had a harem of concubines, given the aforementioned lack of affectivity of the Saiyan society.

Then again, Vegeta did make a big deal about his royal bloodline, especially in the early Z episodes, though this is logistically problematic if there's only one royal family on the whole planet (it's not like the real world, where e.g. the king of France can marry the queen of Germany), making his mother a possible cousin of his father. And that would explain while he never talks about her if he found out that that's a discouraged practice on Earth.

Something which should be noted is that Vegeta only mentions "my father and your father" in his dying monologue to Goku on Namek, not "my parents and your parents". On one hand, this is in line with him knowing who Bardock is in Granolah's arc (since many people seem to bicker about canon these days, this is a rare instance of pieces nicely falling together), but on the other hand, Gine does exist now, so I don't really know.

I would welcome a prequel series where they explore things unseen before, such as Goku's early years with Gohan senior and life on planet Vegeta. In fact, I think such a series would have the potential to be more interesting than all those midquels crammed into "10 years of peace". Too bad that's never going to happen because they need rainbow-colored hair to sell merchandise.
I agree with everything you've said here. What kind of image would you personally have of Vegeta's mother from a realistic point of view? As in what kind of Saiyan she could have been.

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