Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

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Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Benjamin-Simons-91 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:35 am

He could have easily drew stuff that happen when DBS takes place from the Dragon Ball Online timeline that were written alongside/by Akira Toriyama like:

1. Launch's 100th jail break that hit the news in Age 779.

2. Pilaf's failed attempt to take over the world in Age 780.

Or stuff Akira Toriyama shared a few years afterwards in his interview about things that happened after the Majin Buu Saga with Mandō Kobayashi on March 24, 2013:

3. Yamcha's failed career as a club host.

4. Tien and Chiaotzu's farming career, and the latter's wealth.

5. Tien and Launch's romance, after she tracked him down.

6. Yamcha and Puar's life as freelance bodyguards who occasionally visit and help Tien and Chiaotzu with their farm.

Here are my suggestions based upon Toyotaro's own work in DBS:

7. Hatska explains to Irico the havoc that took place on Planet Yardrat when the Ginyu Force invaded it.

8. Shin's plea to the Grand Minister to revive Merus as a mortal.

9. Moro's telepathy which he used to communicate with Cranberry and Saganbo (behind the former's back) to plot the events of the Moro Arc.

10. Goku and Merus' training to obtain control over Ultra Instinct.

11. Monaka's first meeting with Beerus and Whis.

12. Jiya protecting the Galactic King on the Galactic Patrol HQ as the battle with Moro takes place.

13. The reason why Tien forbid Chiaotzu and Yamcha from taking part on Resurrection 'F' - they were sick with covid19, which temporarily lowered their battle powers severely.

14. Master Roshi's secret training during Dragon Ball Z which made him what he is on "Super".

15. Frieza and Shisami's 4 months training for RoF.

16. King Kai's celebrations with Bubbles and Gregory (giving him an official manga debut) that Goku no longer bugs them and destroys his planet with his training.

17. Elec's first learning of Granolah's existence back when he was a child.

18. The reason why Saganbo and his Galactic Bandits Brigade went to Zuno's Planet.

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19. Yamcha, Tien and Chiaotzu's fight against Zauyogi's henchmen (seen above) after Zauyogi got temporarily injured by Tien's Kikoho.

20. How Yuzun faked his death and deserted the Frieza Force after Frieza took over.

21. How Doctor Gero kidnapped Lapis and Lazuli and converted them into Androids 17 and 18.

22. Mercenary Tao and Master Crane's ends, could be thanks to Super Buu's Human Extinction Attack.

23. How Sorbet took over the Frieza Force after Mecha-Frieza's and King Cold's ends on Earth.

24. How Berryblue and Kikono left the Frieza Force due to Sorbet's incompetence.

25. Bardock's relationship with Paragus, who looked down on him upon using his services in a conquest mission and viewed him as just another brute thug, much to the weaker Bardock's annoyance.

These are 2 page stories, it could be done with ease. All-in-all, there are 25 stories that could have been told to us in each of the almost-24 volumes to date. They already gave us 7 volumes with such "special/extra" additions.

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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Xeogran » Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:59 am

I like your ideas. Frieza's 4 month training should have definitely been shown. I know it was in the anime, but it was a scene of him beating up Tagoma so how does that even qualify as a training for him? Shouldn't Frieza battling Piccolo or Goku on Namek also be considered training then, how come that didn't power him up?

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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Benjamin-Simons-91 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:36 am

Xeogran wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:59 am I like your ideas. Frieza's 4 month training should have definitely been shown. I know it was in the anime, but it was a scene of him beating up Tagoma so how does that even qualify as a training for him? Shouldn't Frieza battling Piccolo or Goku on Namek also be considered training then, how come that didn't power him up?
Thanks! I don't understand that either. Well, Akira Toriyama wasn't a rocket scientist, let's put it that way. He never really did too much of mathmatical thinking with his power ups. That's why you can have a character going multiple times stronger within a very short span of time by low-level excuses &/ explanations.

The anime's excuse of Frieza punching Tagoma isn't satisfying, it's plain stupid. Frieza used to torment his soldiers and others who fell victims to him all the time. What's so different with that? that he stretched his muscles and flexed as he punched &/ kicked his arms and legs rather than shooting holes through him? Well, he did just that against Nail and the Z-Fighters and it didn't help him to raise his power at all.

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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Xeogran » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:09 am

And to tense the topic a bit, I think the relaxing ones of the Z-Fighters chilling, or Monaka meeting Beerus & Whis would be a fun watch.
Like why did Beerus even pick him in the first place, how was that idea born? :P

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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Benjamin-Simons-91 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:42 am

Xeogran wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:09 am And to tense the topic a bit, I think the relaxing ones of the Z-Fighters chilling, or Monaka meeting Beerus & Whis would be a fun watch.
Like why did Beerus even pick him in the first place, how was that idea born? :P
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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by johnboy1 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:10 pm

Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?
Umm... why would he? You're saying this like it was an obvious thing to do that he overlooked.
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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by LoganForkHands73 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:10 pm

Economy of storytelling is more important than showing every implied/offscreen moment of these characters' lives. Most of them are best left to the imagination. Many are just trivial information or A-B filler. We're shown the outcome of Shin pleading to the Grand Priest, what more could be learned from seeing this transpire? Where would Yamcha's failed club host career fit into the Super arcs, when he is not a major character in any of them (supporting the Z-Warriors against Moro's invasion notwithstanding)?

Not trying to poo-poo all the ideas, there are some that would be fun to see. Freeza's various offscreen training regimens, that's a no-brainer. Seeing the moment Beerus and Whis decided to hire Monaka would also be fun.

Looking at the events Toyotaro chose to cover in the bonus issues, they are all relevant to the story arcs at hand and usually have unexpected twists or fun cameos, like the Cell Juniors attacking Trunks and Goten on Monster Island, or seeing how Freeza is reacting to Moro's intergalactic pillaging spree. I imagine he had tonnes of other ideas he just never had the time to draw as full comics, like showing Belmod's past as a Pride Trooper or fleshing out some of the minor characters he designed like the Galactic Prisoners (IIRC, he came up with for names for most of them, which we only learn in an interview with Victory Uchida).

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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Trouser » Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:01 pm

Because he's not in the charge of Dragon Ball franchise. He's just an ordinary manga artist who was chosen by Shueisha. He is in no position of making creative decisions, he can't draw whatever he want without an "okay" from higherups.
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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by Mr Baggins » Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:28 pm

The special chapters you're referring to were originally published for each year's Jump Victory Carnival, then later included in a volume release. That should answer your question as to why they weren't included in every single volume.

They stopped being published after 2020, unfortunately. Chapter 104 is probably the closest thing we have to another one.
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Re: Why didn't Toyotaro draw special comics per each Dragon Ball Super Manga volume?

Post by PhantomSaiyan » Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:06 pm

Trouser wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:01 pm Because he's not in the charge of Dragon Ball franchise. He's just an ordinary manga artist who was chosen by Shueisha. He is in no position of making creative decisions, he can't draw whatever he want without an "okay" from higherups.
Exactly this. I think people have taken the "toriyama's successor" mantle way too seriously, I doubt he has any decisional power at all, this franchise is way too big and way too many people are involved for him to have any kind of authority

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