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Re: Series character designer Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru says a Dragon Ball remake is possible

Post by tonysoprano300 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:43 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:29 pm
tonysoprano300 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:23 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:51 pm

I mean...it's pretty embarrassing to be writing that kind of scene for comedic effect involving a minor.
That is true. I am actually curious as how that would be handled, the blood and gore you can pretty easily remove without affecting the story much at all, you can argue that certain moments wouldn’t feel quite as devastating without it like Nappa’s onslaught against the Dragon team but the actual outcome would be the same.

The weird sexual innuendo shit is tied to plot outcomes though. Like in the example i just mentioned Krillin uses Muten Roshi’s perverted nature to strategically help Yamcha win a fight. The training arcs for both Goku and Krillin in the 20th World Martial Arts Tournament saga involved getting him porn mags and finding women for him. Etc.

I wonder if they would actually bother changing that stuff, Super did feature Roshi practically almost assaulting Yurin in the TOP recruitment episodes so I have my doubts.
That's the thing: they should change these plot elements, because they're disgusting and it's embarrassing to make this stuff and then try to put it out there, let alone market it towards kids.
Yup, wouldnt be opposed to that at all.

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Re: Series character designer Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru says a Dragon Ball remake is possible

Post by Luso Saiyan » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:51 am

As far as the future of Dragon Ball goes, I'd rather have a faithful adaptation of the manga (in all aspects) with consistent animation quality than a continuation of the story without Toriyama.

But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

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Post by funrush » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:39 pm

I don't really want a remake but I think there is demand for one. When I watch the show with my friends, they literally bring up the idea on their own. Dragon Ball's animation is both old and cheap, which I think is usually charming but to many is a flaw.

They never did a Kai for the original Dragon Ball, so to me that would be the obvious place to start. Remake OG Dragon Ball and then maybe Z if there's enough money in it. but if not I'm fine with DBZKai.

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MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:43 pm
Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:24 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:03 pmCreating a new adaption of Dragon Ball that removes the misogynistic shit is not 'censorship'—it is creating a separate work entirely.
MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:09 pmNo, no it wouldn't. It would just be a new adaptation made with a more contemporary mindset of what's deemed acceptable.
Would I miss all the inappropriate scenes from early DB ? absolutely not, and I would have no issue if that's all that got removed. The problem is, it likely won't be. Blood, brutal injuries, and certain fights would likely get excluded or severely toned down as well.
Sure. There's a lot of reasons a remake probably wouldn't be very good. Disney remakes have consistently proven a less problematic adaptation doesn't make a better one. But we're talking about whether not excluding content in a brand new adaptation that Toei, FujiTV (or wherever it ends
up) and its sponsors no longer deem acceptable for a child audience is censorship. The answer is: it isn't.

If Toei or Crunchyroll re-released the actual 1986 anime on blu-ray but edited all content it deemed unacceptable I would be upset. But I would be unbothered by the content just not existing in a hypothetical new adaptation that I wouldn't expect to be any good in the first place
Didn't Toei do that with the Blu-ray remasters of the non-canon films? Removing middle fingers was a point of contention which I think got restored for the streaming version, but not the physical one. (Once again leaving the people who actually bought the physical copy out of luck. Thanks you jerks.)
As for a full Dragon Ball animated remake I imagine that it'd probably be pretty similar to that Urusei Yatsura reboot from a few years ago. They'll pick and choose what to keep and give the show a shiny new "modern" coat of paint. From there it'll act mostly as a marketing ploy to get people who didn't grow up with the original 80's anime run to become fans and buy merch. I think Ranma 1/2 is getting the same treatment now.

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Post by Adamant » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:03 am

BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:24 amI think Ranma 1/2 is getting the same treatment now.
It is, and they've taken some pretty big scissors to certain bits of dialogue. Sometimes so badly the rewritten line doesn't even make sense.
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Re: Series character designer Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru says a Dragon Ball remake is possible

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:52 am

funrush wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:39 pmThey never did a Kai for the original Dragon Ball, so to me that would be the obvious place to start. Remake OG Dragon Ball and then maybe Z if there's enough money in it. but if not I'm fine with DBZKai.
I think a proper re-cut of the original 2 anime would've been enough; the problem is that they completely dropped the ball with Kai. Everything that could've gone wrong with Kai went wrong.

Mistake #1: It didn't start with DB, instead relegating it to a 2 minute recap.
Solution: Start with the original DB please.

Mistake #2: Not having a clear vision. Some parts were close to the manga, others weren't, some were in-between, etc...
Solution: Don't rush the project, instead let the creatives take the time they need to properly edit the show.

Mistake #3: Inauthentic presentation. Kai 1.0 had the redrawn scenes, while Kai 2.0 had the green tint and was in 16:9.
Solution: Keep it in 4:3 and do not redraw anything.

Mistake #4: The background music being replaced in Kai 1.0, while Kai 2.0 not being that good.
Solution: Just keep the original music and edit it where it's needed.

Mistake #5: The remastering process was not very good.
Solution: Hire a team (Seed of Might) that can properly remaster and color correct the footage frame by frame.

Like with anything related to classic DB, it'll be up to the fans to present us with this hypothetical cut, as the companies involved clearly don't know what they're doing in this regard.

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BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:24 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:43 pm
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Would I miss all the inappropriate scenes from early DB ? absolutely not, and I would have no issue if that's all that got removed. The problem is, it likely won't be. Blood, brutal injuries, and certain fights would likely get excluded or severely toned down as well.
Sure. There's a lot of reasons a remake probably wouldn't be very good. Disney remakes have consistently proven a less problematic adaptation doesn't make a better one. But we're talking about whether not excluding content in a brand new adaptation that Toei, FujiTV (or wherever it ends
up) and its sponsors no longer deem acceptable for a child audience is censorship. The answer is: it isn't.

If Toei or Crunchyroll re-released the actual 1986 anime on blu-ray but edited all content it deemed unacceptable I would be upset. But I would be unbothered by the content just not existing in a hypothetical new adaptation that I wouldn't expect to be any good in the first place
Didn't Toei do that with the Blu-ray remasters of the non-canon films? Removing middle fingers was a point of contention which I think got restored for the streaming version, but not the physical one. (Once again leaving the people who actually bought the physical copy out of luck. Thanks you jerks.)
I believe you’re right. Might be a blessing that Toei refuses to give any of the pre-Kai series the bluray treatment

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BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:24 amDidn't Toei do that with the Blu-ray remasters of the non-canon films? Removing middle fingers was a point of contention which I think got restored for the streaming version, but not the physical one.
It was actually the opposite. The movies originally released on streaming uncensored, but a few months later got censored for the home release. I don't know if this is accurate, but I think they went back and censored the streaming versions as well.

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Post by sangofe » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:15 pm

I am rewatching DBZ in faster speed up to 2x speed. Works perfectly. I don't need no remake.

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Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:11 am
BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:24 amDidn't Toei do that with the Blu-ray remasters of the non-canon films? Removing middle fingers was a point of contention which I think got restored for the streaming version, but not the physical one.
It was actually the opposite. The movies originally released on streaming uncensored, but a few months later got censored for the home release. I don't know if this is accurate, but I think they went back and censored the streaming versions as well.
That's even worse than I thought it was. Just include a "this was made a long time ago, viewer discretion is advised" screen. That takes less work than digitally removing content. I thought that's why a content ratings board existed.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:32 am

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:30 pmGetting new generations of fans into the series will always be a plus. A Dragon Ball remake could also be another alternate way of watching the show like Kai (except ideally starting from Pilaf). If anyone doesn't want it they can just not watch it because we will always have the original anime run.
You can get the new fans by making the show easily accessible to watch, like in the many streaming platforms. No remake needed.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:32 amYou can get the new fans by making the show easily accessible to watch, like in the many streaming platforms. No remake needed.
A manga cut with actual effort put into it unlike Kai can also be another alternative.

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Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:32 am You can get the new fans by making the show easily accessible to watch, like in the many streaming platforms. No remake needed.
You underestimate how many young people won't watch a show for superficial reasons such as "it looks old"
I've already started noticing this sentiment around dragonball in broader anime communities

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:05 am

Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.
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JulieYBM wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:05 am Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.
This can apply to any anime if you want it to. It's actually a bit shorter if you skip the entire filler arcs.

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Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:31 am
JulieYBM wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:05 am Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.
This can apply to any anime if you want it to. It's actually a bit shorter if you skip the entire filler arcs.
Yeah, hundreds of episodes are not navigatable, actually. At least with anime-original episodes you're getting a story exclusive to the animated series.

Dragon Ball is a series from the 1980s to mid-1990s, suggesting that a second and shorter adaption would be a smart idea is hardly heresy.
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JulieYBM wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:05 am Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.
You can speed up watching, you know.

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Post by Zephyr » Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:07 pm

I would rather just not watch DB at all than watch it on 2x speed.

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:08 pm

sangofe wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:49 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:05 am Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.
You can speed up watching, you know.
Watching a television series or film on two-times speed is stupid, so no thanks.
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Post by PhantomSaiyan » Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:54 pm

Yeah I agree, at that point when you're watching something at 2x speed you're not even watching it anymore, you're merely consuming it, what's even the point

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