Series character designer Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru says a Dragon Ball remake is possible

[sangofe]

Yeah I agree, at that point when you're watching something at 2x speed you're not even watching it anymore, you're merely consuming it, what's even the point

Dragon Ball isn't just old, it's not very economical with its use of time. Spend 444 episodes worth of time on this shit is just not worth it when there's other things you can be doing.

You can speed up watching, you know.

Watching a television series or film on two-times speed is stupid, so no thanks.

Have you actually tried to speed it up before saying it's stupid? I vary between 1.15 and 2x speed. Mostly at 1.80. I Was surprised it works so well but it really does.
Stupid is not. It works great for me. I hear and get everything what's said. Slow it down when the animation is faster.

[JulieYBM]

Yeah I agree, at that point when you're watching something at 2x speed you're not even watching it anymore, you're merely consuming it, what's even the point

You can speed up watching, you know.

Watching a television series or film on two-times speed is stupid, so no thanks.

Have you actually tried to speed it up before saying it's stupid? I vary between 1.15 and 2x speed. Mostly at 1.80. I Was surprised it works so well but it really does.
Stupid is not. It works great for me. I hear and get everything what's said. Slow it down when the animation is faster.

It is disrespectful to all of the artists working on television and film projects to view their work as speeds they did not create it at.

[PhantomSaiyan]

Have you actually tried to speed it up before saying it's stupid?

Yes.
That exact experience is what led me to the statement I made in my previous comment.

[TechExpert2021]

Yeah I agree, at that point when you're watching something at 2x speed you're not even watching it anymore, you're merely consuming it, what's even the point

Watching a television series or film on two-times speed is stupid, so no thanks.

Have you actually tried to speed it up before saying it's stupid? I vary between 1.15 and 2x speed. Mostly at 1.80. I Was surprised it works so well but it really does.
Stupid is not. It works great for me. I hear and get everything what's said. Slow it down when the animation is faster.

It is disrespectful to all of the artists working on television and film projects to view their work as speeds they did not create it at.

Yeah, I agree. It's like watching them in PAL speed-up (which speeds up video in 24fps by approximately 4%), which is common for European broadcast TV (and maybe Australian broadcast TV).

[UpFromTheSkies]

If they do it, they need to make it film quality animation, and get a really good studio to work on it.. Otherwise I don't see the point. We already have the original and Kai, we don't need a low quality remake.

[PhantomSaiyan]

If they do it, they need to make it film quality animation, and get a really good studio to work on it.. Otherwise I don't see the point. We already have the original and Kai, we don't need a low quality remake.

Let's be real, it will still be Toei, why would they give a license to an ip as big as dragonball to anyone else? Most of the animators talking about a potential remake are toei employees too so you just know a project like that will never escape from them. Not to mention the literal decades of experience they have working with Dragonball and it's peculiar artstyle.

And to be honest, if we get something like Daima when it comes to animation quality, I don't see why Toei making it would be a bad idea

[UpFromTheSkies]

If they do it, they need to make it film quality animation, and get a really good studio to work on it.. Otherwise I don't see the point. We already have the original and Kai, we don't need a low quality remake.

Let's be real, it will still be Toei, why would they give a license to an ip as big as dragonball to anyone else?

That's what's currently happening with the One Piece remake, WIT studio is making it, so it's certainly possible that another studio could do a Dragon Ball remake. But I'm not holding my breath for it.

And to be honest, if we get something like Daima when it comes to animation quality, I don't see why Toei making it would be a bad idea

Daima was...pretty good. Some episodes looked fantastic, but not all. It was definitely a big step up from Super though.

[PhantomSaiyan]

That's what's currently happening with the One Piece remake, WIT studio is making it, so it's certainly possible that another studio could do a Dragon Ball remake. But I'm not holding my breath for it.

To me it feels like they're only allowing it to happen because the og one piece anime is still ongoing and probably will be for a very long time since the manga still doesn't seem close to reaching it's ending yet. Things would probably be different if the remake happened long after the original was already over.

Daima was...pretty good. Some episodes looked fantastic, but not all. It was definitely a big step up from Super though.

To be honest Daima to me is the best looking dragonball show by far. Og and Z have my preferred artstyles, but a lot of epiodes just look wonky and very off model. Super is... Super, but Daima consistently looked great, every single frame looked really nice, I'd be surprised if anyone can find an atrocious frame\in between frame like the ones in z and super's low priority episodes, and the animation itself was always polished with the exception of maybe goku vs majin duu, that thankfully didn't last very long either. And even that, is FAR better than OG, Z and Super's lowest lows, so I have faith in Toei

[Vegard Aune]

I didn't overly love Daima as a show, but one thing I don't think anyone can really claim is that it was badly animated. It had its issues with the storyboarding and directing, and honestly I didn't care for the character designs much, but the show, even at its absolute worst, still looked fairly respectable, and its highs were absolutely incredible. So yeah, Daima, much like One Piece after episode 892, shows that Toei is absolutely capable of putting out incredible quality animation consistently. They just need the right specific people on the job, and to give said right specific people a good schedule to work with. Heck, even Yamamuro managed to put out some pretty solid stuff in Daima, and he's practically been the black sheep of DB animators since the revival era started.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Daima, much like One Piece after episode 892, shows that Toei is absolutely capable of putting out incredible quality animation consistently.

I just finished One Piece's Cake Island arc (891), so I can't wait to start Wano with the new style. I've heard great things about it for years.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I didn't overly love Daima as a show, but one thing I don't think anyone can really claim is that it was badly animated. It had its issues with the storyboarding and directing, and honestly I didn't care for the character designs much, but the show, even at its absolute worst, still looked fairly respectable, and its highs were absolutely incredible. So yeah, Daima, much like One Piece after episode 892, shows that Toei is absolutely capable of putting out incredible quality animation consistently. They just need the right specific people on the job, and to give said right specific people a good schedule to work with. Heck, even Yamamuro managed to put out some pretty solid stuff in Daima, and he's practically been the black sheep of DB animators since the revival era started.

The issue is Daima wasn't intended to be an going show and was in production for a long time, if Daima were a 131 episode weekly series and maintained the same quality throughout then you'd have a point. Also OP just went a long hiatus too.

Bottom line unless Toei do a seasonal remake of DB there will absolutely be drop offs in quality between episodes.

[JulieYBM]

One Piece took off six months—and is coming back 05 April—after producing Episodes #892-1122 (2019.07.07 through 2024.10.23) without seasonal breaks. There was still a large number of weeks off thanks to recap episodes, but they were still producing a huge number of high-quality shots during that time—to say nothing of One Piece Film Red and some specials.

That being said, if they just plan a new Dragon Ball series out properly they could in fact do 104 consecutive episodes or whatever to adapt the original comic again.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

One Piece took off six months—and is coming back 05 April—after producing Episodes #892-1122 (2019.07.07 through 2024.10.23) without seasonal breaks. There was still a large number of weeks off thanks to recap episodes, but they were still producing a huge number of high-quality shots during that time—to say nothing of One Piece Film Red and some specials.

That being said, if they just plan a new Dragon Ball series out properly they could in fact do 104 consecutive episodes or whatever to adapt the original comic again.

Fair enough but could they still do the same whilst also sharing resources with an over 100 episode DB series?

I think it would make sense for them to remake DB once OP manga finishes and they're caught up, snce it seems the conclusion might finally be on the horizon.

[JulieYBM]

One Piece took off six months—and is coming back 05 April—after producing Episodes #892-1122 (2019.07.07 through 2024.10.23) without seasonal breaks. There was still a large number of weeks off thanks to recap episodes, but they were still producing a huge number of high-quality shots during that time—to say nothing of One Piece Film Red and some specials.

That being said, if they just plan a new Dragon Ball series out properly they could in fact do 104 consecutive episodes or whatever to adapt the original comic again.

Fair enough but could they still do the same whilst also sharing resources with an over 100 episode DB series?

I think it would make sense for them to remake DB once OP manga finishes and they're caught up, snce it seems the conclusion might finally be on the horizon.

They did the majority of Daima while One Piece was still airing, after all. Planning and staff is really key. Is it likely that such a production would happen? Perhaps not, but it's not impossible if everyone agrees, "Hey, let's plan even more wisely than we did for Daima!"

[Vegeta th3 4th]

If they just plan a new Dragon Ball series out properly they could in fact do 104 consecutive episodes or whatever to adapt the original comic again.

The story would be too rushed at 104 episodes. If you were to adapt the original 519 chapters at 3 chapters per episode, that would give you 173 episodes. That's far more realistic than 104, which would adapt 5 chapters per episode. You could also reanimate the 2 TV specials to reach 175 episodes.

[JulieYBM]

If they just plan a new Dragon Ball series out properly they could in fact do 104 consecutive episodes or whatever to adapt the original comic again.

The story would be too rushed at 104 episodes. If you were to adapt the original 519 chapters at 3 chapters per episode, that would give you 173 episodes. That's far more realistic than 104, which would adapt 5 chapters per episode. You could also reanimate the 2 TV specials to reach 175 episodes.

Five chapters per episode with some plot changes is easily doable. Chapter #1 of a lot of shounen manga get adapted into a single episode and those are typically 60 pages long. Dragon Ball is usually 13-15 pages per chapter. Many of those are action-heavy chapters.

[Vegard Aune]

It varies wildly by where in the story you are. I think especially early on, doing a bunch of chapters per episode would be disastrous, considering how much of the first arc is just episodic hijinks that honestly feels like it would benefit from more fleshing out... Perhaps not quite as much as what was in the 80s anime, but a lot of the scenarios that happen in early DB feel like they very naturally lend themselves to being a full episode. To say nothing of the bits where it felt like Toriyama himself skipped out on character building, like how fast he blew through Gohan's training with Piccolo for instance.

...While there are absolutely sections of the story that can and should be paced like an episode of Jojo (where they do indeed cram five chapters or more into one episode on a regular basis), I feel like a properly paced, full re-adaptation of the entire manga should be at least 150 episodes, though realistically closer to 200. Making cuts where necessary but also expanding on stuff Toriyama himself may have skimped on, possibly reintegrating some of the filler content from the original series where appropriate, like, I honestly would not mind keeping a few Saiyaman hijinks episodes, even if the "Videl sees through Gohan and gets him to reveal himself instantly" scene was itself also funny.

[JulieYBM]

You can still flesh the story and characters out in a smaller number of episodes. I wouldn't even try to do a full panel-for-panel adaption. So much of the first arc is built around torturing Blooma with the Kame-sen-nin being a creep that you could basically restructure the plot to make the story involve all those characters much more tightly and less episodically.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

I feel like a properly paced, full re-adaptation of the entire manga should be at least 150 episodes, though realistically closer to 200. Making cuts where necessary but also expanding on stuff Toriyama himself may have skimped on, possibly reintegrating some of the filler content from the original series where appropriate.

A lot of fans believe that anything not present in the original manga equals bad content, when that couldn't be further from the truth. There are so many character moments and fights that Toriyama just skipped outright, but the anime thankfully covered properly. A remake that wants to tell the story properly, rather than present the manga 1:1 regardless of it working or not, needs to keep those moments and fight intact.

[jjgp1112]

It varies wildly by where in the story you are. I think especially early on, doing a bunch of chapters per episode would be disastrous, considering how much of the first arc is just episodic hijinks that honestly feels like it would benefit from more fleshing out... Perhaps not quite as much as what was in the 80s anime, but a lot of the scenarios that happen in early DB feel like they very naturally lend themselves to being a full episode. To say nothing of the bits where it felt like Toriyama himself skipped out on character building, like how fast he blew through Gohan's training with Piccolo for instance.

...While there are absolutely sections of the story that can and should be paced like an episode of Jojo (where they do indeed cram five chapters or more into one episode on a regular basis), I feel like a properly paced, full re-adaptation of the entire manga should be at least 150 episodes, though realistically closer to 200. Making cuts where necessary but also expanding on stuff Toriyama himself may have skimped on, possibly reintegrating some of the filler content from the original series where appropriate, like, I honestly would not mind keeping a few Saiyaman hijinks episodes, even if the "Videl sees through Gohan and gets him to reveal himself instantly" scene was itself also funny.

Honestly? I'm perfectly fine with how the anime chose to adapt things from the Pilaf stuff until around the arrival of the Ginyu Force. That's when the pacing slowly starts to erode. They did bounce back with the Buu saga though - the anime version of that arc is legitimately better than the manga