Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 104 (Special One-Shot) - Official Discussion Thread

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Post by JulieYBM ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:59 pm

Aaah, that's not surprising. Toriyama writing small blurbs and Toyo-tarou adapting those into complete chapters probably happened a lot during the entire comic. It'll be interesting to see what the original blurb looks like, someday.
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Post by Trouser ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:09 pm

This is the proof that he's not in charge of the franchise and he's not Toriyama's successor. And that's okay because he's not that good of an artist.
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Once again Gohan prove he's the most heroic noble character in dragon ball

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Post by Mystic-han ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:23 pm

Mr Baggins wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:34 pm Cute chapter, but man, you can really feel Toriyama's absence with this one. The SH prologue/epilogue chapters were so much better.

At least now they can push out volume 24.
And...it turns out this chapter was done by using an idea Toriyama made and left for Toyo to use or not

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Post by JulieYBM ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:24 pm

Trouser wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:09 pm This is the proof that he's not in charge of the franchise and he's not Toriyama's successor. And that's okay because he's not that good of an artist.
I mean...nobody ever will be? Toyo-tarou doesn't suddenly become the owner of the franchise, merely because Toriyama is dead. Toriyama's family will always have more power than him and he will also always had an editor to report to, because that's how making comics works.
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Post by Mr Baggins ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:09 pm

Mystic-han wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:23 pm And...it turns out this chapter was done by using an idea Toriyama made and left for Toyo to use or not
Yeah, the new volume mentions that, but it's kinda old news. For the official site's February 2023 interview, Toyotaro says that Toriyama told him Trunks' motivation for becoming a superhero. Although none of us knew what it actually was at the time, I've always figured that 104 borrowed from it.

The chapter still reads like something largely created by Toyotaro based on footnotes from Toriyama, but without any of the latter's input or involvement. Which is to be expected at this point, I guess.
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Post by Vegeta th3 4th ยป Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:34 pm

Toyotaro: "The Superhero arc is officially complete. Please stay tuned for what's next."

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Post by Benjamin-Simons-91 ยป Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:47 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:34 pm Toyotaro: "The Superhero arc is officially complete. Please stay tuned for what's next."
On that note, I'm quite relieved but still feel disappointment that we didn't get to see who were Beta Androids #3-#6. Here is my suggestion about it: viewtopic.php?t=49476

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Post by sangofe ยป Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 am

Zephyr wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:50 pm Seems this story was from Toriyama after all, but didn't originally make it in because the prologue wasn't allowed to exceed 3 chapters.
Guess this confirms the DBS manga isn't ending.

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Post by capsulecorp ยป Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:36 pm

sangofe wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 am
Zephyr wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:50 pm Seems this story was from Toriyama after all, but didn't originally make it in because the prologue wasn't allowed to exceed 3 chapters.
Guess this confirms the DBS manga isn't ending.
Unless there's another source that I'm missing, this is vague enough that we should not take it for granted to be confirmation of more DBS in any form. "What's next" could absolutely be some new series, it could be a Daima adaptation, it could be something far stranger and more twisted than we could ever imagine. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Post by PhantomSaiyan ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:23 am

capsulecorp wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:36 pm
sangofe wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 am
Zephyr wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:50 pm Seems this story was from Toriyama after all, but didn't originally make it in because the prologue wasn't allowed to exceed 3 chapters.
Guess this confirms the DBS manga isn't ending.
Unless there's another source that I'm missing, this is vague enough that we should not take it for granted to be confirmation of more DBS in any form. "What's next" could absolutely be some new series, it could be a Daima adaptation, it could be something far stranger and more twisted than we could ever imagine. We'll just have to wait and see.
I have other "proof" that the manga will likely continue

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The spine illustration is not finished

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Post by capsulecorp ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:28 am

PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:23 am
capsulecorp wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:36 pm
sangofe wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 am

Guess this confirms the DBS manga isn't ending.
Unless there's another source that I'm missing, this is vague enough that we should not take it for granted to be confirmation of more DBS in any form. "What's next" could absolutely be some new series, it could be a Daima adaptation, it could be something far stranger and more twisted than we could ever imagine. We'll just have to wait and see.
I have other "proof" that the manga will likely continue

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The spine illustration is not finished
This looks incredibly fake to me. In this new era, however, who can really say?

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Post by JulieYBM ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:45 am

If the manga was ending, we would have known forever ago.
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Post by PhantomSaiyan ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:13 pm

capsulecorp wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:28 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:23 am
capsulecorp wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:36 pm

Unless there's another source that I'm missing, this is vague enough that we should not take it for granted to be confirmation of more DBS in any form. "What's next" could absolutely be some new series, it could be a Daima adaptation, it could be something far stranger and more twisted than we could ever imagine. We'll just have to wait and see.
I have other "proof" that the manga will likely continue
The spine illustration is not finished
This looks incredibly fake to me. In this new era, however, who can really say?
I litearlly got it from a legit website
https://jumpichiban.com/products/dragon ... nga-comics
It's jump ichiban man
"who can really say" literally everybody. This is legit without even a shadow of a doubt.

Besides, the character from the spine illustration is ALSO featured in the volume bonus pages

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It's not fake just because you want it to be man, the signs are all pointing at the manga not ending here

And here' the same spine again but with an actual physical volume

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If you still think it's "fake" then you're just interpreting everything you see in bad faith just for the sake of it, idk what to say

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Post by sangofe ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:27 pm

PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:13 pm
capsulecorp wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:28 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:23 am
I have other "proof" that the manga will likely continue
The spine illustration is not finished


This looks incredibly fake to me. In this new era, however, who can really say?
I litearlly got it from a legit website
https://jumpichiban.com/products/dragon ... nga-comics
It's jump ichiban man
"who can really say" literally everybody. This is legit without even a shadow of a doubt.

Besides, the character from the spine illustration is ALSO featured in the volume bonus pages

Image

It's not fake just because you want it to be man, the signs are all pointing at the manga not ending here

And here' the same spine again but with an actual physical volume

Image

If you still think it's "fake" then you're just interpreting everything you see in bad faith just for the sake of it, idk what to say
Go watch this video too as to why it seems more than likely Dragon Ball Super will continue in manga form:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTSbp2 ... aikyoDevin

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Post by capsulecorp ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:07 pm

PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:13 pm
capsulecorp wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 11:28 am
PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:23 am
I have other "proof" that the manga will likely continue
The spine illustration is not finished
This looks incredibly fake to me. In this new era, however, who can really say?
I litearlly got it from a legit website
https://jumpichiban.com/products/dragon ... nga-comics
It's jump ichiban man
"who can really say" literally everybody. This is legit without even a shadow of a doubt.

Besides, the character from the spine illustration is ALSO featured in the volume bonus pages

Image

It's not fake just because you want it to be man, the signs are all pointing at the manga not ending here

And here' the same spine again but with an actual physical volume

Image

If you still think it's "fake" then you're just interpreting everything you see in bad faith just for the sake of it, idk what to say
Oh, this is actually just volume 24? I understand.

I don't really want it to be fake or real, I just think that cover looks like fanfic lol

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Post by JulieYBM ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:10 pm

I'm not sure if I want to bother making a new thread for this, but Nagamine Tatsuya is no longer a credited series director for One Piece. Nagamine was the series director for the first half of the Tournament of Power arc and the director of Dragon Ball Super: Broly. It would be interesting if he returned as the series director for Dragon Ball Super to adapt the manga material, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he just takes a year or two off from doing anything major to rest lol
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Post by PhantomSaiyan ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:23 pm

capsulecorp wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:07 pm I don't really want it to be fake or real, I just think that cover looks like fanfic lol
Oh you didn't know about the cover art yet?
That explains it lol yeah the very concept of this cover is very rooted in fanart, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyotaro saw all of the fanarts of MUI, UE, Beast and Orange all standing together and said "I'm gonna do that"

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Post by capsulecorp ยป Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:16 pm

PhantomSaiyan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:23 pm
capsulecorp wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:07 pm I don't really want it to be fake or real, I just think that cover looks like fanfic lol
Oh you didn't know about the cover art yet?
That explains it lol yeah the very concept of this cover is very rooted in fanart, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyotaro saw all of the fanarts of MUI, UE, Beast and Orange all standing together and said "I'm gonna do that"
Yep. That will teach me to open my mouth without knowing all the context! Maybe...

This is so corny that it makes me think they might actually pursue the whole Black Freeza thing. Although, even if they do, it'll probably be a red herring, like the first time Freeza returned to earth for revenge.

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