What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
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What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
Disclaimer: I honestly think that this saga sucks (only rivaled by Frieza's revival for the who-counts-how-many-times?), and that it made no sense to hype mere Android 17 who is a total weakling by that point in time so badly.
The title is directed at the unseen villains versus Earth's heroes.
I, for the sake of honesty, never understood why the GT staff had brought back purely mechanical characters like the Red Ribbon Androids. It's not like they have any soul.
Here are the battles I had thought of..
1. Chiaotzu fights 15 rivals in East City: General Blue and his 8 soldiers, Ninja Murasaki, Appule, Cui, Dodoria, Yamu and Doore.
2. Tien fights 15 rivals in a different section of East City: his old master Shen, Tao Pai Pai, 11 other Red Ribbon Army soldiers, Spopovitch, and Salza.
3. Yamcha fights 15 rivals in West City: the 6 Saibamen from Earth (including his murderer who is thrilled to kill him again), 7 Frieza Force soldiers (including Banan and Sui), Zarbon (who transforms after getting one-punched) and Neiz.
4. Majuub fights 150 rivals in Satan City: King Cold, his 16 soldiers, and 133 Frieza Force soldiers.
5. Trunks fights 102 rivals in North City: 100 Frieza soldiers led by Recoome and Guldo.
6. Goten fights 102 rivals in a different side of North City: 100 Frieza Soldiers led by Jeice and Burter.
7. Android 18 fights 102 rivals as well, but in South City: Hoi, then Lord Slug and his henchmen.
8. Vegeta fights 200 rivals in Central City: Nappa (after an actual exchange with), the Babidi controlled Team Dodoria from "Bardock - The Father of Goku", Namole, Orlen, and Babidi himself; Then against his father and the Saiyan Army.
9. Gohan fights 15 enemies in Nicky Town: Raditz, Turles and his men, Captain Ginyu, Bojack and his men, and Cooler.
10. Videl fights 12 enemies in Bridgetown: Dr. Kochin (in his biological human form, alas weakling), Dr. Wheelo (same), and 10 more Red Ribbon Army soldiers.
11. Pan fights against 108 enemies in Parsley City: 100 Frieza Force soldiers (Cranberry is the first to die), the 7 minions of Garlic Jr. (sans their master who is in the Dead Zone), and Dolltaki.
The title is directed at the unseen villains versus Earth's heroes.
I, for the sake of honesty, never understood why the GT staff had brought back purely mechanical characters like the Red Ribbon Androids. It's not like they have any soul.
Here are the battles I had thought of..
1. Chiaotzu fights 15 rivals in East City: General Blue and his 8 soldiers, Ninja Murasaki, Appule, Cui, Dodoria, Yamu and Doore.
2. Tien fights 15 rivals in a different section of East City: his old master Shen, Tao Pai Pai, 11 other Red Ribbon Army soldiers, Spopovitch, and Salza.
3. Yamcha fights 15 rivals in West City: the 6 Saibamen from Earth (including his murderer who is thrilled to kill him again), 7 Frieza Force soldiers (including Banan and Sui), Zarbon (who transforms after getting one-punched) and Neiz.
4. Majuub fights 150 rivals in Satan City: King Cold, his 16 soldiers, and 133 Frieza Force soldiers.
5. Trunks fights 102 rivals in North City: 100 Frieza soldiers led by Recoome and Guldo.
6. Goten fights 102 rivals in a different side of North City: 100 Frieza Soldiers led by Jeice and Burter.
7. Android 18 fights 102 rivals as well, but in South City: Hoi, then Lord Slug and his henchmen.
8. Vegeta fights 200 rivals in Central City: Nappa (after an actual exchange with), the Babidi controlled Team Dodoria from "Bardock - The Father of Goku", Namole, Orlen, and Babidi himself; Then against his father and the Saiyan Army.
9. Gohan fights 15 enemies in Nicky Town: Raditz, Turles and his men, Captain Ginyu, Bojack and his men, and Cooler.
10. Videl fights 12 enemies in Bridgetown: Dr. Kochin (in his biological human form, alas weakling), Dr. Wheelo (same), and 10 more Red Ribbon Army soldiers.
11. Pan fights against 108 enemies in Parsley City: 100 Frieza Force soldiers (Cranberry is the first to die), the 7 minions of Garlic Jr. (sans their master who is in the Dead Zone), and Dolltaki.
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Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
With Piccolo getting sent to hell, I think it would've been a great opportunity to have him team up with Goku against Freeza and Cell. We hadn't seen them fight together since Raditz.
We saw a glimpse of Cooler, so I assume that means all the movie villains besides Janemba were back. I would've loved to see a powered up Cooler fight Mystic Gohan, and for Vegeta to unlock Ssj3 against Broly.
Xenoverse 2 had Turles and Slug team up, so that could've worked against Goten and Trunks.
Uub could've fought Bojack.
We saw a glimpse of Cooler, so I assume that means all the movie villains besides Janemba were back. I would've loved to see a powered up Cooler fight Mystic Gohan, and for Vegeta to unlock Ssj3 against Broly.
Xenoverse 2 had Turles and Slug team up, so that could've worked against Goten and Trunks.
Uub could've fought Bojack.
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Gohan vs Cell and Vegeta vs Frieza rematches would've been interesting in the GT era.
It is kind of funny how Cell only fixates on getting revenge on Goku instead of the one who actually killed him.
This is a bit of a recurring theme in both GT and the old movies, were villains are fixated on Goku above all else. It feels a bit forced at times. An example of this is Baby possessing everyone else, but insisting Goku must die because... reasons. Vegeta is the one he has the logical beef with, so why does he keep him alive but insist on killing Goku?
It is kind of funny how Cell only fixates on getting revenge on Goku instead of the one who actually killed him.
This is a bit of a recurring theme in both GT and the old movies, were villains are fixated on Goku above all else. It feels a bit forced at times. An example of this is Baby possessing everyone else, but insisting Goku must die because... reasons. Vegeta is the one he has the logical beef with, so why does he keep him alive but insist on killing Goku?
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Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
GT's writers were so obsessed with Goku they probably convinced themselves that it was him who defeated Cell. You also make a good point about Baby being a more logical Vegeta villain than Goku.90sDBZ wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:35 pm Gohan vs Cell and Vegeta vs Frieza rematches would've been interesting in the GT era.
It is kind of funny how Cell only fixates on getting revenge on Goku instead of the one who actually killed him.
This is a bit of a recurring theme in both GT and the old movies, were villains are fixated on Goku above all else. It feels a bit forced at times. An example of this is Baby possessing everyone else, but insisting Goku must die because... reasons. Vegeta is the one he has the logical beef with, so why does he keep him alive but insist on killing Goku?
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Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
After rethinking about it, I'd add the following scenarios:
* Majuub also fights the Super Mega Sigma Force Canon (fused with all of its members!) and Luud.
* Videl is assisted by Chi-Chi against Buyon after the latter defeats General White and Colonel Violet in Bridgetown.
* Gohan also fights Leon who chases Yajirobe and Karin.
* Pan also fights both Cardinal Mutchy-Mutchy (who faced Master Roshi as Pan took care of the rest) and Mutchy whom are two different entities.
* Amidst the chaos Baby flees the Earth, never to be seen again.
* Majuub also fights the Super Mega Sigma Force Canon (fused with all of its members!) and Luud.
* Videl is assisted by Chi-Chi against Buyon after the latter defeats General White and Colonel Violet in Bridgetown.
* Gohan also fights Leon who chases Yajirobe and Karin.
* Pan also fights both Cardinal Mutchy-Mutchy (who faced Master Roshi as Pan took care of the rest) and Mutchy whom are two different entities.
* Amidst the chaos Baby flees the Earth, never to be seen again.
Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
Parasite Baby vs Vegeta. The rematch where Vegeta takes revenge.
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Re: What battles have you wanted to watch in the Hell break In the Super 17 Saga?
Vegeta seeing King Vegeta would have been cool. King Vegeta is shock to see how his son is much different compared before. He gets upset that Vegeta chose to live life on Earth than have the life of royal conqueror.
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Raditz and Nappa, having just learned Super Saiyan, trying to shortcut their way to Golden Oozaru and Super Saiyan 4 with the artificial moon despite not learning to master the power of Super Saiyan. They might put up a good fight for a while, but it wouldn't end well. They could have had them team up against Goku or face Goku and Vegeta respectively.
Also, I would have loved seeing Piccolo meet King Piccolo's spawn.
Also, I would have loved seeing Piccolo meet King Piccolo's spawn.
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Artificial Human #18 defeating Super #17
Gokuu being taunted by and psychologically attacked by Cell
Freeza torturing Goten to get back at Trunks, who he thinks is the same Trunks that killed him
Vegeta and Bra facing down Nappa and King Vegeta
Gohan facing down Raditz
Pan needing to protect Gill from General Rilld
There's a lot of room for fun character conflict and interactions here. Vegeta being 'unrecognizable' by Nappa and his father would have this really nice effect of showing off just how much GT Vegeta has become removed from the person he used to be, for example.
Gokuu being taunted by and psychologically attacked by Cell
Freeza torturing Goten to get back at Trunks, who he thinks is the same Trunks that killed him
Vegeta and Bra facing down Nappa and King Vegeta
Gohan facing down Raditz
Pan needing to protect Gill from General Rilld
There's a lot of room for fun character conflict and interactions here. Vegeta being 'unrecognizable' by Nappa and his father would have this really nice effect of showing off just how much GT Vegeta has become removed from the person he used to be, for example.
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I would have loved if Kuririn end up killing Tambourine in GT, but we never saw that.
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