Dragon Ball Super is Not Modern Anymore

[Zephyr]

The point I ultimately wanted to make was that things change and what was once 'new' will ultimately become as relatively 'old' as anything before it. I don't think staunchly cutting off what counts as 'old Dragon Ball' at 1997 (or 1998-1999, where Gokuu was appearing in Dr. Slump's second animated series) is feasible. In ither words, it's inevitable that 'old Dragon Ball' will not always only refer to series and films from the 1980s and 1990s.

It's true that things do inevitably change, and over time things age.

But it's also worth acknowledging that things don't always change at the same pace, or in the same way, consistently across gaps in time. I think of images like this that make it clear that things many of us might still think of as feeling 'recent' are actually super old.

Spoiler:

The gap in time between the Sega Master System and the PlayStation 3 is the same gap in time between the Xbox 360 and the Switch 2. Yes, that feels crazy partly because "I was a teenager when the 360 came out, and time moves faster now that I'm an adult". But it's also true that the PS3 simply was a way more clearly noticeable leap from what the Master System could do, compared to what we'd see going from the Xbox 360 to the Switch 2. It's felt for a while now that "cutting edge visuals in video games" has reached a point of diminishing returns.

My point being: not every 10 year gap is created equally. I think Vegard Aune's point about HD and widescreen kind of maps onto my point about video game graphics. Sometimes there's just a line, and two things on one side of it feel more akin to one another than either do to something chronologically-closer that's on the other side. It's not for nothing that while talking to a friend of mine about various DB sequels (he's watching Z for the first time, for context), he told me: "GT is the best one cause it's not HD and DB looks weird in HD". Now he's half-joking here, but that comment is rooted in things falling on different sides of a decidedly-noticeable line. He's not an entrenched anime viewer, either.

[JulieYBM]

I mean, I'd call the 2000s digital era of anime painfully dated by now, too. Dragon Ball Super winds up looking much older than other anime from 2015 because it's still colored and processed the same way that a lot of Toei anime were in 2005.

It's a crude comparison, but early digital paint stuff conpared to modern post-processing is much closer to black-and-white anime and early cel painted anime or early cel painted anime and later 1990s cel painted anime.

[Benjamin-Simons-91]

You're doing a shitty job of winning people over to your point of view there, hon.

I'm not even trying to, on the other hand I have laughed upon reading this tantrum.

Why are all you new people so confrontational about everything? Where are you coming from? How are you finding this place?

There's a clear trend happening, and I just don't get it. Is it the zoomer-exodus from social media, and they simply never had an online experience and home that wasn't entirely founded on hostility? It's not cool, it's not interesting, and it's not even really obnoxious -- it's just sad.

What's the "trend"? Can't a user, new or old (by the way, I'm a Gen-Y), put a "patreon supporter" who is clearly toxic and who is actually the one looking for a confrontation, in their place?
If anything is sad here, it's this comment of yours (who pays for this space) that tries to stick your negative experience/s here with others to me, a user who has participated in online discussions. I have never had any online nor off-line beefs.
As for your question, I found this place after it was mocked on Reddit, and checked it out. I might not keep doing this given your going all-out against me for no reason.

[goku the krump dancer]

DBSuper is set to continue its story telling at some point in the (near) future and even it wasn’t, it’s cliff
hanger-ish ending happened only a year or two ago, seems pretty modern to me in terms of the active story being told, outside circumstances be damned.

[MCDaveG]

Gee, time flies!
I am like damn, The Batman sequel is years away and them bam, I will be sitting in the cinema in "few months".
It's definitely going faster as you age

It's hard to not take Super as recent, as few years ago, there were still reruns on TV in Spain or Italy when I went on holidays, toys on shelves.
When you realize it premiered ten years ago, it hits hard.

It's almost like yesterday when I watched DBZ and GT on TV... 25 years ago!!!
I will turn 40 in 3 years

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

You could call Super the "Revival era" since the 2008 OVA was just a one off, and there weren't plans to continue with a new series long term yet.
The best comparison I could make is how we use the term "modern Sonic" to refer to any game where the character has his lanky green eyed design, even though that design first appeared in the late 90's. Anything but modern by now, but it's still used anyway.

[JulieYBM]

I'm not even trying to, on the other hand I have laughed upon reading this tantrum.

Why are all you new people so confrontational about everything? Where are you coming from? How are you finding this place?

There's a clear trend happening, and I just don't get it. Is it the zoomer-exodus from social media, and they simply never had an online experience and home that wasn't entirely founded on hostility? It's not cool, it's not interesting, and it's not even really obnoxious -- it's just sad.

What's the "trend"? Can't a user, new or old (by the way, I'm a Gen-Y), put a "patreon supporter" who is clearly toxic and who is actually the one looking for a confrontation, in their place?
If anything is sad here, it's this comment of yours (who pays for this space) that tries to stick your negative experience/s here with others to me, a user who has participated in online discussions. I have never had any online nor off-line beefs.
As for your question, I found this place after it was mocked on Reddit, and checked it out. I might not keep doing this given your going all-out against me for no reason.

I'm a 'her', not a 'their'. Thank you.

[Dr. Casey]

You could call Super the "Revival era" since the 2008 OVA was just a one off, and there weren't plans to continue with a new series long term yet.
The best comparison I could make is how we use the term "modern Sonic" to refer to any game where the character has his lanky green eyed design, even though that design first appeared in the late 90's. Anything but modern by now, but it's still used anyway.

Modern Sonic is definitely kind of a misnomer. At this point, Sonic Adventure is fairly close to the beginning of the series' history; there's not a huge difference between Classic Sonic being 34 years old and Modern Sonic being 27. Not a big enough deal to be worth 'fixing' though.

[PhantomSaiyan]

What's the "trend"? Can't a user, new or old (by the way, I'm a Gen-Y), put a "patreon supporter" who is clearly toxic and who is actually the one looking for a confrontation, in their place?
If anything is sad here, it's this comment of yours (who pays for this space) that tries to stick your negative experience/s here with others to me, a user who has participated in online discussions. I have never had any online nor off-line beefs.
As for your question, I found this place after it was mocked on Reddit, and checked it out. I might not keep doing this given your going all-out against me for no reason.

You're very clearly in the wrong man, don't make things worse for yourself by antagonizing the literal owner of the forum lol

[Benjamin-Simons-91]

What's the "trend"? Can't a user, new or old (by the way, I'm a Gen-Y), put a "patreon supporter" who is clearly toxic and who is actually the one looking for a confrontation, in their place?
If anything is sad here, it's this comment of yours (who pays for this space) that tries to stick your negative experience/s here with others to me, a user who has participated in online discussions. I have never had any online nor off-line beefs.
As for your question, I found this place after it was mocked on Reddit, and checked it out. I might not keep doing this given your going all-out against me for no reason.

You're very clearly in the wrong man, don't make things worse for yourself by antagonizing the literal owner of the forum lol

I had the hunch you troll will pop, so I'm glad to see that you proved me right, intriguer.
I'm not in any "wrong" for stating the truth about Dragon Ball Super, nor for mentioning the fact that I have laughed over the tantrum I got quoted in, nor for bringing up the truth about these shameful accusations made up against me for his exchanges with others.
He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

[PhantomSaiyan]

I had the hunch you troll will pop

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a "troll" , different opinions than yours do exist, you know?

so I'm glad to see that you proved me right, intriguer.

Intriguer? You mean intruder? Idk, but anyway there's no such thing as "intruders" on a forum board, you keep proving VegettoEX right, you have a needlessly confrontational attitide.

I'm not in any "wrong" for stating the truth about Dragon Ball Super

There's no "truth" to a cartoon, art is subjective, you expressed your opinion on it, which is fair, but acting like your words are the objective truth is not fair at all. And even ignoring that, commenting on the quality of the show is irrelevant to the topic which is strictly about the use of the word modern, so your message came off even worse because of that.

nor for mentioning the fact that I have laughed over the tantrum I got quoted in

It wasn't a tantrum, you defining it as such shows that you're looking for conflict, once again, proving that the accusations were right.

nor for bringing up the truth about these shameful accusations made up against me for his exchanges with others.

Not shameful, they are 100% correct in my opinion. There was no need for you to respond like that.

He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

Respecting the basic rules we signed up for and not acting antagonistic and hostile creating conflict for no reason is far from being an underling or a punching bag, it's basic human decency.
The reason I responded to you in the first place wasn't to "troll" or to have an online argument, it was genuine advice, do not make the situation worse for yourself by creating further conflict just because you refuse to admit that the tone of your message was exaggeratedly confrontational.

[JulieYBM]

He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

[Benjamin-Simons-91]

He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

The admin. And I'm a male, so no gender-switching as a poke will do.
Anyway, I'm done posting in this topic. I said all I needed to, better tell that kid who spends his day breaking my comment into phrases.

[JulieYBM]

He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

The admin.

But...Mike isn't paying anyone. Where is this coming from?

[Benjamin-Simons-91]

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

The admin. And I'm a male, so no gender-switching as a poke will do.

But...Mike isn't paying anyone. Where is this coming from?

I meant that he pays for this website and for keeping it online. I'm done here.

[PhantomSaiyan]

better tell that kid who spends his day breaking my comment into phrases.

You're really not doing a good job of proving that you're not a hostile and needlessly confrontational person
You're free to do that but at least be honest with yourself instead of calling the accusations "shameful" otherwise you're just being hypocritical

And yes, I had to break your comment up, couldn't help myself, you've said a lot of things that I consider wrong one after the other, so I used the forum for it's intended purpose, sorry about that!

[MCDaveG]

What's the matter with all these younguns being confrontational and feeling butthurt lately?
Sure I remember a lot more life in here back in the days, but thank god there are some veterans still posting,
otherwise there will be bunch of newbies correcting my opinions and pushing me to jump on some bandwagons

[JulieYBM]

He can pay and block whomever he wants to (and so can I, if I'd open a website), it's his online space - but still, we are not his underlings nor punching bags. This text was directed at all to read.

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

The admin. And I'm a male, so no gender-switching as a poke will do.
Anyway, I'm done posting in this topic. I said all I needed to, better tell that kid who spends his day breaking my comment into phrases.

You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by just taking the time to create an actual thought out first post that engaged with the topic instead of being a weirdo this whole time or not posting at all. Good grief.

[Benjamin-Simons-91]

'He'? Girl, what are you talking about?

The admin. And I'm a male, so no gender-switching as a poke will do.
Anyway, I'm done posting in this topic. I said all I needed to, better tell that kid who spends his day breaking my comment into phrases.

You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by just taking the time to create an actual thought out first post that engaged with the topic instead of being a weirdo this whole time or not posting at all. Good grief.

Lol look who's talking? I'm not into wasting any time over any of you. That's just how people who know what's worthwhile do. Even DBS sucked less than your (the lot) tantrums here.

[PhantomSaiyan]

Lol look who's talking? I'm not into wasting any time over any of you. That's just how people who know what's worthwhile do. DBS sucked less than your (the lot) tantrums here.

And yet you're still here... Ironic isn't it
It's also pretty funny calling anything that goes against your opinion a "tantrum"
Each time you post you keep proving VegettoEX's point, how are you not realizing that...