"Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement, Pre-, & Post-Release Discussion Thread

[TechExpert2021]

I suspect the Nintendo Switch 2 version of DB Sparking Zero will be released on a Game-Key Card, which nearly all third-party Nintendo Switch 2 games will use.

[Zinnia]

GT is still the least popular series in the franchise &, while it has its fans, most of the series doesn't translate into sales. I'm sorry, but the sooner more people who like GT accept this reality,

The least popular position has been taken by Daima. GT at least still has a few games of it's own, Daima will be stuck as the DLC-only addition because it doesn't even have enough content and proper length for it's own game.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

The least popular position has been taken by Daima.

GT has been around for nearly 30 years, while Daima isn't even a year old yet. I think it's a bit early to judge Daima's popularity, especially considering most countries don't even have it fully dubbed yet.

Daima doesn't have enough content and proper length for it's own game.

And GT and Super do ?

[Yuji]

GT is still the least popular series in the franchise &, while it has its fans, most of the series doesn't translate into sales. I'm sorry, but the sooner more people who like GT accept this reality,

The least popular position has been taken by Daima. GT at least still has a few games of it's own, Daima will be stuck as the DLC-only addition because it doesn't even have enough content and proper length for it's own game.

GT has two games, if you count Final Bout as a GT game. Daima in 6 months almost has more videogame promotion than GT in decades.

The least popular position has been taken by Daima.

GT has been around for nearly 30 years, while Daima isn't even a year old yet. I think it's a bit early to judge Daima's popularity, especially considering most countries don't even have it fully dubbed yet.

Daima doesn't have enough content and proper length for it's own game.

And GT and Super do ?

Super definitely has more than enough content for its own game. It's longer than Z at this point with a more expansive cast and world building. Bigger world means bigger possibilities for RPGs and adventure games, bigger cast means bigger possibilities for fighting and action games.

[Koitsukai]

GT and DBS definitely have enough content to have their own game.

GT has three arcs, two are big enough to invite devs into going all out. There's quest material, not just arena fighting.
Several planets, over 15 opponents, different races, aliens, machine mutants, androids, fusions. Scenarios keep changing, that's stage material. The other arc is short but it has a lot of rehased opponents from Z. We are talking like 20-30 opponents.
Final Bout only took into account the first 39 episodes, leaving out almost half of GT.

DBS is more combat-focused, but with 2 arcs, 2 tournaments, 3 movies, and 80 opponents belonging to just one arc alone, there's a lot that could be done. I even remember people back in 2018 wishing for a ToP-only game. It has many fusions, plethora of races, and gods. The stage variety would be nuts.
And that's leaving out the manga-only arcs.

[Mr Baggins]

GT has two games, if you count Final Bout as a GT game.

And both are uniquely terrible. You have a choice between one of the worst fighting games ever made and "son, we have Advanced Adventure at home".

Fitting.

[Scsigs]

GT is still the least popular series in the franchise &, while it has its fans, most of the series doesn't translate into sales. I'm sorry, but the sooner more people who like GT accept this reality,

The least popular position has been taken by Daima. GT at least still has a few games of it's own, Daima will be stuck as the DLC-only addition because it doesn't even have enough content and proper length for it's own game.

Daima's the newest & the only bad things people have with it are the pacing, everyone becoming kids, even if they're not kids for very long, & it's confusing canonicity when you take Super into account. GT has extensive structural problems brought by a mix of Toriyama not being involved, so his personal touches & quirks were missing, the writers admittedly not making intriguing plots initially, so they pivoted to Z-type storytelling, character consistency with Goku, pacing, wasting characters, etc. As far as I can tell because I'm waiting to binge the English dub, Daima doesn't have most of these problems unless you think the series should always be like Z with constant action & fighting rather than breaking it up with the adventure elements of OG DB.

GT has two games, if you count Final Bout as a GT game.

And both are uniquely terrible. You have a choice between one of the worst fighting games ever made and "son, we have Advanced Adventure at home".

Fitting.

Advanced Adventure & Transformation are 2 different types of side scrolling beat-em-ups. Which one you prefer depends on taste. I thought both were fine in their own ways. Also, Advanced Adventure IS "Advanced Adventure at home."

[MCDaveG]

I have to say, that as a kid, I had tons of fun with Final Bout and we even trained characters with my friend to go against each other
Loving the franchise and being limited in options did the magic, altho the game is objectively terrible in comparison to it's peers, but that's simply franchise gaming for you (I honestly don't remember much older anime/franchise games, that were actually pretty good, most of them were not and mostly barebones... One of the worst was Cowboy Bebop)... still one of the best and original opening FMV ever.

I have noticed, that they did some more small edits, like losing in tournament not kicking you completely out into menu but back to tournament screens.
If they ditch the game after DLC3 with again some extra characters and nothing else and are willing to do these quality of life updates,
I'd like them to overhaul the custom creator kit a bit at least... While setting up rules for fights works quite well, I had trouble to get a sense of the scene creation and clicking through that weird video gallery and selecting... better previews as well to not have to actually play it to know what's actually happening. Better filtering and tags for the text dialogues. Ability to at least be able to write our own names for the custom stories in titles, of course with some word filtering (consoles can't have swearing and bad words) and character limit.
Adding more options, to make this mode stand out and justify the bareboneness of the game and boost it's staying power a bit.

Am I ignorant or is there an option for quick match to get instant versus player instead of waiting for connection and then getting into room and waiting in line to play basically King Of The Hill, which I am always getting? I'd like to at least Platinum this game after all this time spent on it.

[Jord]

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Sparking Zero rated for the Switch 2

Not a big surprise. Namco likes to dump all their console DB games on Nintendo.
A collection of the retro DB/Z games would be nice. We did see some of those on the Jump Famicon mini so rights wouldn't be an issue.

[Mr Baggins]

A minor but much-needed adjustment I noticed with custom battle is that if you change the BGM mid-fight, you can now select tracks you'd already used for events/scenes triggered before the BGM change when previously that wouldn't work, or would only work for your default track. I knew it was a bug.

I have to say, that as a kid, I had tons of fun with Final Bout and we even trained characters with my friend to go against each other
Loving the franchise and being limited in options did the magic, altho the game is objectively terrible in comparison to it's peers, but that's simply franchise gaming for you

To be clear, it's fine to have nostalgia for bad games. Such is life and its guilty pleasures.

Ultimate Battle 22 is also utter dogshit, but I still wasted away more days messing around with that than I care to admit back when I was young with too much expendable time; not tied up in golden handcuffs. Back then, it was one of the only localized Dragon Ball games to feature content from the Buu arc, and that shit was dope to 13 year old me.

But it's also hard not to look back and laugh at the surreal absurdity of pumping hours into these weirdly obscure releases in the west that weren't doing anything close to Budokai's numbers, a game that pretty much single-handedly put Dragon Ball interactive media on the map where I live in the States. It's in an infinitely better state compared to back then.

[Hellspawn28]

GT has two games, if you count Final Bout as a GT game.

And both are uniquely terrible. You have a choice between one of the worst fighting games ever made and "son, we have Advanced Adventure at home".

Fitting.

Transformation is basically baby's first beat em up. You already had Double Dragon, Final Fight, Bruce Lee: Return of the Legend, and Advance Adventure on the GBA to play instead.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Ultimate Battle 22 was one of the only localized Dragon Ball games to feature content from the Buu arc, and that shit was dope to 13 year old me.

Fans like me who grew up with Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3 don't realize how lucky they were until we read horror stories like this.

[Zinnia]

And both are uniquely terrible. You have a choice between one of the worst fighting games ever made and "son, we have Advanced Adventure at home".

Fitting.

That's merely your opinion. Final Bout is forever set in history as the first 3D Dragon Ball game, nowhere near "one of the worst" besides these e-celeb rankings.

GT Transformation is a completely fine beat-em 'up set in the GT mood. Meanwhile Daima? Forever stuck as DLC for other, larger scale games, ones that also include GT no less.

Fitting.

Spoiler:

I'd also have more fun replaying both over Sparking Zero, which for how overrated it was at launch, turned out to be extremely boring.

[MCDaveG]

Ultimate Battle 22 was one of the only localized Dragon Ball games to feature content from the Buu arc, and that shit was dope to 13 year old me.

Fans like me who grew up with Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3 don't realize how lucky they were until we read horror stories like this.

Sorry for off-topic, but the SNES era had some cool gems that I played before Play Station, like Super Butoden 2, Hyper Dimension or the Gokuden series (gimmicky fun).
Also, honorable mention, Buu Yuu Retsuden on Sega Genesis. It wasn’t that bad besides the two Play Station outings… and the Japanese only DBZ Legends was interesting gimmicky fun as well.
The card based NES games had some cult following, they played like Legendary Super Warriors on Game Boy (which were quite fun).

[gokugambitoptimus]

"Characters" I think they can add for free in Sparking Zero:

Spoiler:

-SSJ1 Caulifla
-Controlled SSJ Legendary Kale
-Base Broly (Super)
-SSJ Broly (Z)
-Ozaru (transformation for Kid Goku and Kid Gohan)
-Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta
-Great Saiyaman 2 (transformation for Videl)
-Gohan Black
-Ultimate Gohan Black
-Zamasu fused with Gohan Black
-Mutated Zamasu fused with Gohan Black

[Koitsukai]

I was sad when I saw Kuu has no Daimao cape skin. Maybe they'll add it with the next DLC, but since they never added the SH skin for Broly, my hopes remain low.

[Bardock God of Time]

"Characters" I think they can add for free in Sparking Zero:

Spoiler:

-SSJ1 Caulifla
-Controlled SSJ Legendary Kale
-Base Broly (Super)
-SSJ Broly (Z)
-Ozaru (transformation for Kid Goku and Kid Gohan)
-Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta
-Great Saiyaman 2 (transformation for Videl)
-Gohan Black
-Ultimate Gohan Black
-Zamasu fused with Gohan Black
-Mutated Zamasu fused with Gohan Black

I'd love for them to add all the Great Ape forms that were in Tenkaichi 3

[gokugambitoptimus]

"Characters" I think they can add for free in Sparking Zero:

Spoiler:

-SSJ1 Caulifla
-Controlled SSJ Legendary Kale
-Base Broly (Super)
-SSJ Broly (Z)
-Ozaru (transformation for Kid Goku and Kid Gohan)
-Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta
-Great Saiyaman 2 (transformation for Videl)
-Gohan Black
-Ultimate Gohan Black
-Zamasu fused with Gohan Black
-Mutated Zamasu fused with Gohan Black

Oh, I forget someone:

Spoiler:

-Garlick Jr (base)

I'd love for them to add all the Great Ape forms that were in Tenkaichi 3

If they add the Ozarus from Budokai Tenkaichi 3 that could be very cool ! Even the Golden Ozarus would be great to get a more complete game

After credits scene:

Some original characters debuted in older games of the Budokai/Budokai Tenkaichi saga would be a great idea for a couple of DLC (I mean, Tencha (Ten Shi Han + Yamcha), Gotan (Goku + Mr Satan), Cellin (Cell + Krillin), Buugeta (Super Buu + Vegeta), etc)

[Mr Baggins]

That's merely your opinion.

Wow, such riveting commentary. Thanks for again pointing out the obvious on an internet forum.

Maybe one day you'll consider finding a better hill to die on than "ackshually these two dreadfully low quality games are good" out of brand loyalty to your favorite low quality show. At no point in time did the majority consensus think Final Bout was worth playing; fucking Celebrity Deathmatch of all games has more polish and control responsiveness.

Meanwhile Daima? Forever stuck as DLC for other, larger scale games, ones that also include GT no less.

Distinction without a difference. Kakarot doesn't even include anything GT-related, yet its own Daima DLC is clearly big enough to be split into two parts and might as well be its own game.

This thread's namesake will have more Daima representation than GT. No comparison you can make between these two is going to come out positive for the latter in the same game.

Use your words, guy.

[MCDaveG]

Hopefully, we'll see the DLC3 next month at earliest. Wonder if it won't get pushed back, as the DLC has pretty low score on PSN, around 2,8 from 5 stars.
Which is close to what shovelware on PS are getting, hence I wonder if they will again release just few characters and call it a day.

The login gifts are rudiculous, as I have nothing to buy from the shop anymore and I have no idea, if super dragon balls have like some titles left, as after getting three sets and one SDB as a gift, getting them is impossible. Otherwise, the Dragons have more money...

Stating the obvious, I'd be happy for few "missing" costumes and will be fine with what it is, as I am not expecting anything at this point.