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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue May 06, 2025 10:10 am

The Black Star Dragon Balls are one huge plot hole. You would have to re-write them completely in order for them to work.
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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by taikufuru » Wed May 07, 2025 1:48 pm

I'm going to have to go over your rule and make GT a single arc. That's because I find the first arc and the last one very redundant.

1. There are no dark dragon balls. In fact, they are the dragon balls we know, but they were collected by Dende, because they were accumulating negative energy, being stored in God's Lookout.

2. Instead of asking Goku to be a child, the Pilaf Gang asks to become younger, so, due to a misunderstanding of Shenlong, Pilaf, Mai, Shu and Goku, who was with them, become children.

3. The wish causes the dragon balls to reach the peak of negative energy and spread throughout the universe. The planet where the spheres fell is experiencing natural imbalances because of this.

4. With that, Goku, Uub, Trunks and Pan (who came in hiding) travel to space to look for the dragon balls.

5. Goku needs to get used to his "new" body in order to release the power of Super Saiyan throughout the storyline.

6. Each planet will have an evil dragon generated by the dark energy of the dragon balls, each one more powerful than the last. In addition, the heroes also need to deal with the guilt of putting other planets in danger because of the excessive wishes they made, as well as delve into the specificities and problems of each planet they travel to.

7. Along the way, closer to the climax, Goku will find a way to regain his adult body. Whether it's a magic elixir or something specific to another planet they visit.

8. After defeating all the villains, Shenlong will appear to grant one last wish, which will be to restore the damage caused. From then on, the balls instantly turn to stone.

9. The ending will not be "definitive" like we had in the GT we know, but a simple happy ending to an arc more in line with Daima. I don't think the series needs to put an end to the story, but rather be another adventure for Goku and his friends.

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by Goe » Sun May 11, 2025 5:57 am

I love this thread. I start:

About main characters (the good guys):

1) Goku would have the same clothes he already wears in GT, but he wouldn't turned into a kid.
2) Vegeta's design would be without moustache and same hair, and he would still train.
3) Pan would reach SSJ and her personality wouldn't be as annoying as in actual GT
4) Krillin's design would be like Dragon Ball Multiverse Krillin's for U9
5) Bra would be like a male version of Gohan: she wouldn't like fight but she will be involved in against her will and reach SSJ.

The other characters would be fine as they already were in GT.

About plot:

1) The start would be the same, with Pilaf finding dark Dragon Balls. However, he asks the red dragon to be as strong as Goku instead goku being a kid again. One the wish has been asked, dark DBs fly beyond the Earth and Earth would explode if DBs arent joined. Then, Goku, Vegeta, Oob, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, A-18 and Piccolo would remain in earth fighting agains Pilaf while Pan, Bra and Krillin started a tour along the universe to recover Dragon Balls. In sum, characters stronger than a SSJ, would remain in Earth, while the weaker would go to search dark DBs instead.
2) Along the journey, Pan and Bra reach SSJ
3) finally, Pan, Bra and Krillin find all dark DBs and Goku defeats Pilaf.

That would be the first saga. I don't know how I would continue the story but for me, it would be important that Goku let young generations to protect the Earth.

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by Peach » Mon May 12, 2025 7:10 pm

taikufuru wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 1:48 pm I'm going to have to go over your rule and make GT a single arc. That's because I find the first arc and the last one very redundant.

1. There are no dark dragon balls. In fact, they are the dragon balls we know, but they were collected by Dende, because they were accumulating negative energy, being stored in God's Lookout.

2. Instead of asking Goku to be a child, the Pilaf Gang asks to become younger, so, due to a misunderstanding of Shenlong, Pilaf, Mai, Shu and Goku, who was with them, become children.

3. The wish causes the dragon balls to reach the peak of negative energy and spread throughout the universe. The planet where the spheres fell is experiencing natural imbalances because of this.

4. With that, Goku, Uub, Trunks and Pan (who came in hiding) travel to space to look for the dragon balls.

5. Goku needs to get used to his "new" body in order to release the power of Super Saiyan throughout the storyline.

6. Each planet will have an evil dragon generated by the dark energy of the dragon balls, each one more powerful than the last. In addition, the heroes also need to deal with the guilt of putting other planets in danger because of the excessive wishes they made, as well as delve into the specificities and problems of each planet they travel to.

7. Along the way, closer to the climax, Goku will find a way to regain his adult body. Whether it's a magic elixir or something specific to another planet they visit.

8. After defeating all the villains, Shenlong will appear to grant one last wish, which will be to restore the damage caused. From then on, the balls instantly turn to stone.

9. The ending will not be "definitive" like we had in the GT we know, but a simple happy ending to an arc more in line with Daima. I don't think the series needs to put an end to the story, but rather be another adventure for Goku and his friends.
Having Uub travel with Goku, Pan, and Trunks would have been great. It was very strange they didn't have Goku's successor be a much larger part of this show. He and Pan in all honesty should have been THE most important characters of the show.




Reflecting on what I would have done differently in more depth:
- Goku isn't turned into a Kid. Or maybe he is, but it's solved well before Baby really comes to Earth.

- Goku encourages the others to fight instead of him on the journey, being more like a mentor trying to encourage the next generation and only stepping in when warranted

- Uub naturally becomes stronger than Kid Buu just by training over the timeskip. In times of great emotional distress, he can go into a rage mode where genie energy cloaks his body in the shape of Kid Buu

- Uub has a personality more like Kid Goku and is less stoic. Pan is more serious and yells "Grandpa!" less as well.

- Baby saga is largely the same. However, Goku going Super Saiyan 4/Golden Great Ape is a total accident while he buys time for Uub to merge with Majin Buu over the course of several episodes

- Baby gets the upper hand on Goku as a Golden Great Ape and kills him with Super Saiyan 4 not even being enough.

- Uub defeats Baby and Avenges his master.

- Instead of Piccolo sacrificing his life to teleport Goku to New Tuffle, Goku with a halo helps teleport the last person (Pan) to New Tuffle before Earth blows up. Goku having to leave back to other world and saying goodbye to her helps her unlock Super Saiyan. It's also a tearful moment where Uub falls to his knees.

- The rest of the series after Baby should have been Uub dealing with survivor's guilt and trying to be the hero Earth needs him to be, while stopping various threats that are the result of Goku's past coming to haunt Earth.

- Uub can use virtually all of Goku's techniques including instant transmission, kaio ken, and the spirit bomb. He's a true successor in every aspect.

- The return of Cell, Frieza, and Nappa should have been much more serious. All the returns in general should have been handled more elegantly and more seriously.

- Raditz should have returned in the Hell on Earth parts as a Super Saiyan. Perhaps him and Nappa both have Super Saiyan and try to shortcut to Super Saiyan 4 with the Golden Great Ape, having not mastered Super Saiyan itself. Only to be consumed by the power of the golden great ape after putting up a good fight.

- Goku returns and Gogeta fights Omega Shenron in a serious fight. Uub charges up a spirit bomb during the fight and throws it at Omega Shenron after the fusion defuses.




I feel that Goku became too cartoony after the Baby saga. Perhaps he should have only been present until the Baby saga where he was done well. Leaving behind a next generation who has to fend for themselves. It could have still ended with him going with Shenron at the end, reappearing only to have to leave...

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by JulieYBM » Tue May 13, 2025 12:01 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:37 pm I don't remember the plot of Dragon Ball GT too well because I haven't watched it in, like, twenty years? Anyway, I made a bunch of shit up to put together my version of the Hunt for the Black-Star Dragon Balls arc (twelve episodes).
i still don't remember the plot, so i made some stuff up a bit using the characters lol

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by WittyUsername » Tue May 13, 2025 6:20 pm

taikufuru wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 1:48 pm I'm going to have to go over your rule and make GT a single arc. That's because I find the first arc and the last one very redundant.

1. There are no dark dragon balls. In fact, they are the dragon balls we know, but they were collected by Dende, because they were accumulating negative energy, being stored in God's Lookout.

2. Instead of asking Goku to be a child, the Pilaf Gang asks to become younger, so, due to a misunderstanding of Shenlong, Pilaf, Mai, Shu and Goku, who was with them, become children.

3. The wish causes the dragon balls to reach the peak of negative energy and spread throughout the universe. The planet where the spheres fell is experiencing natural imbalances because of this.

4. With that, Goku, Uub, Trunks and Pan (who came in hiding) travel to space to look for the dragon balls.

5. Goku needs to get used to his "new" body in order to release the power of Super Saiyan throughout the storyline.

6. Each planet will have an evil dragon generated by the dark energy of the dragon balls, each one more powerful than the last. In addition, the heroes also need to deal with the guilt of putting other planets in danger because of the excessive wishes they made, as well as delve into the specificities and problems of each planet they travel to.

7. Along the way, closer to the climax, Goku will find a way to regain his adult body. Whether it's a magic elixir or something specific to another planet they visit.

8. After defeating all the villains, Shenlong will appear to grant one last wish, which will be to restore the damage caused. From then on, the balls instantly turn to stone.

9. The ending will not be "definitive" like we had in the GT we know, but a simple happy ending to an arc more in line with Daima. I don't think the series needs to put an end to the story, but rather be another adventure for Goku and his friends.
I never even thought of something like this, but I actually like this idea. It would unfortunately mean losing Baby, but it would’ve streamlined things quite a bit, and would’ve provided a much more tangible conflict from the beginning of the series.

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by Saiya6Cit » Tue May 13, 2025 10:13 pm

I would leave GT as it is, out of respect. Because either we like it or not, it is the best that Toei could come up with at the time. Without Toriyama, that is.

Some of the ideas mentioned here are good for a GT sequel, or GT II? I would love to see Uub, Maron, Pan, Bra, Trunks and Goten from GT interact and have adventures and actually fight well. But GT Does not need a reboot. Just let it be. The same way we let Super be ( :sick: )


Now, if something should be changed about GT it would be saying Pan is 13 and Bra 16, to make them match their designs a little bit more... that's all.

I truly love DBGT. More than Original DB and more than Daima. Not more that Z.

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Re: How would you have made GT ?

Post by Goe » Wed May 14, 2025 8:55 am

I have already written about the first saga but then I hadn't ideas to rewrite other sagas. Let me try:

Baby saga:

1. Baby can't possess stronger characters, so he can't possess only pure humans. Then, Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Pan, Piccolo and Bra weren't possessed. Obb is pure human but is as stronger as buu so he can't be possessed. A-18 may be possessed or not, I am not sure.
2. However, Baby can create evil copies of stronger warriors. Evil copies of good guys would look with red eyes like possessed guys in Garlick saga. They would have also wicked face.
3. Baby would take a form of an evil copy of Goku.
4. The good guys would discover a weak point of the copies so they would be defeated but meanwhile, the good guys would fight agains their evil copies. Not necesarily each character against his/her clone. Goku wouldn’t use SSJ3 agains the clones.
5. After defeat the clones, they would try to fight Baby, who looks like a wicked Goku. Baby will turn SSJ3 and actual Goku would turn into SSJ3 then. Battle would be really hard because they had the same level. However, when Vegeta or any saiyan would try to fight against Baby, he recovers his energy because his hatred against saiyans do it stronger everytime he fights with a saiyan. So, finally, Baby is defeated thanks to Goku reaching SSJ4 after an anger event. Anger's cause would be possessed Krillin attacking him.

Super A-17 saga

Super A-17 wakes up in a secret labotatory that Dr. Gero used but nobody knew. Goku can't control SSJ4 yet. No Dr. Muu and no hell references. No conection with old A-17 from Cell Saga.

Evil Dragons

Each dragon would fight a good guy

Omega Shenron agains Goku
Dragon 1 agains Vegeta
Dragon 2 against Oob
Dragon 3 against Pan
Dragon 4 against Bra
Dragon 5 against Gohan
Dragon 6 against Piccolo
Dragon 7 against Trunks

Finally, Goku fuses with Vegeta to defeat Omega Shenron.

After defeating all bad guys

Goku is proud of Oob, Bra and Pan because they are the younger ones and have defeated their enemies in evil dragons saga. He says he wouldn't be eternally in Earth and they would became Earth protectors. He goes to Kami Sama's Palace to train with then in the spirit room.

Some years later we see that Oob, Pan and Bra have defeated some monsters who were a thread to Earth. They looks like adults now. After that, Pan goes to Mount Paoz, and Goku is there with Chichi. Pan said "you decided not to help us this time because you said we should be able to protect Earth without you. We thought we couldn't but we did it! Thank you Grandpa! It wouldn't be possible without you". Goku smiled and says: I am so proud of you!!

At that times, Gohan, Goten and Trunks have been retired from training. They show little interest in keep training in End of Z, so it makes sense.

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