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[Tian]

Nothing much, yesterday I just had the honor to meet Ryusei Nakao.

That's great. Did you ask him to make his characteristic Freeza laugh?

[SHINOBI-03]

Nothing much, yesterday I just had the honor to meet Ryusei Nakao.

That's great. Did you ask him to make his characteristic Freeza laugh?

I don't typically ask for lines, plus he already did it on the public stage.

[ABED]

The box art might have sucked but I did like when FUNi put forth some effort and made animated menus of their DVD's.. I miss the days when not just FUNi but effort was put into home video releases. The menus are now static and bland. There aren't even booklets or episode synopses anymore with home videos.

[MasenkoHA]

The box art might have sucked but I did like when FUNi put forth some effort and made animated menus of their DVD's.. I miss the days when not just FUNi but effort was put into home video releases. The menus are now static and bland. There aren't even booklets or episode synopses anymore with home videos.

Truthfully, the “Golden Era” of Funimation home video covers was the Saga Sets/GT Singles/Ultimate Uncut release from 2003-2005.


The one character to represent a season they did with the Orange Bricks and Blu-ray steelbooks is pretty lame and limiting. It’s weird as hell that Gohan isn’t represented at all despite arguably being in some ways more prominent than Goku in Dragon Ball Z. Not in Season 6 as Cell Games era Super Saiyan 2 Gohan or in season 7(where he is indisputably the main character)in his blue training gi. Frieza and Cell get to represent at least one of their respective seasons but Majin Buu doesn’t get to represent his. The blu-ray 3 in 1 boxsets tries to fix this except they used Kid Buu in season 8. Kid Buu doesn’t even appear in season 8. They just probably thought Fat Buu was too goofy and didn’t want to take season 9 from Vegetto

[ABED]

The box art might have sucked but I did like when FUNi put forth some effort and made animated menus of their DVD's.. I miss the days when not just FUNi but effort was put into home video releases. The menus are now static and bland. There aren't even booklets or episode synopses anymore with home videos.

Truthfully, the “Golden Era” of Funimation home video covers was the Saga Sets/GT Singles/Ultimate Uncut release from 2003-2005.


The one character to represent a season they did with the Orange Bricks and Blu-ray steelbooks is pretty lame and limiting. It’s weird as hell that Gohan isn’t represented at all despite arguably being in some ways more prominent than Goku in Dragon Ball Z. Not in Season 6 as Cell Games era Super Saiyan 2 Gohan or in season 7(where he is indisputably the main character)in his blue training gi. Frieza and Cell get to represent at least one of their respective seasons but Majin Buu doesn’t get to represent his. The blu-ray 3 in 1 boxsets tries to fix this except they used Kid Buu in season 8. Kid Buu doesn’t even appear in season 8. They just probably thought Fat Buu was too goofy and didn’t want to take season 9 from Vegetto

I know people shit on the bricks, but video and audio quality aside, I like the simplicity of the designs. They also came with booklets. Hell, FUNi went through the effort to put PDF's of them on their websites.

Having such a limited episode count sucked but I still can't believe they put enough effort into a few of the releases that the Frieza and Cell saga DVD's had CG animated menus. It's not a surprise it happened around that time as the early 2000s was when the DVD market was at its peak.

One feature I wish DB/Z/GT DVDs had copied Yu Yu Hakusho's Yama's Notebook feature which had notes and explanations of things like name puns or cultural refences

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Yeah, distributors like Funimation became lazier with extras for DVDs and Blu-Rays as physical media declined, but as we shift towards discs becoming more of an enthusiast's market we might see a resurgence of that with more collector's editions being produced.

Manga UK did a wonderful job (even if the 30th anniversary remaster isn't to everyone's liking) with their last Dragon Ball Z release by making art cards and posters come with the individual seasons, in addition to nice spine art for when they are all lined up together.

[MasenkoHA]

I noticed in the Viz translation when Freeza realizes Gohan is a Saiyan he said he killed all the Saiyans except Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz 30 years ago, even though it should be 20. Is this a Viz flub or was that in the original Japanese too?

[super michael]

I don't know which topic this belongs, so I will write it here.

In the Boo Saga Goku gained maximum power was SSJ3, while Vegeta maximum power was SSJ2.
In DBS they didn't gain any new transformation, that is until they either did the SSG Ritual or trained with a Angel.
In Daima Vegeta gained SSJ3 after Kid Boo defeat, while Goku was focusing in trying to gain a transformation higher than SSJ3, which is SSJ4.

So even though Daima is less than 1 year after the Boo Saga, they managed to break their limits by gaining new transformation. In DBS even though that was more than 1 year after Kid Boo defeat, they didn't focus on unlocking new forms, that is until they gained Whis as a mentor.

In conclusion Daima Goku and Daima Vegeta trained better alone, than DBS Goku and when Vegeta when they didn't have Whis and Beerus.

[SHINOBI-03]

I noticed in the Viz translation when Freeza realizes Gohan is a Saiyan he said he killed all the Saiyans except Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz 30 years ago, even though it should be 20. Is this a Viz flub or was that in the original Japanese too?

Manga: 30 years.
Anime: 20 years.

[MasenkoHA]

I noticed in the Viz translation when Freeza realizes Gohan is a Saiyan he said he killed all the Saiyans except Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz 30 years ago, even though it should be 20. Is this a Viz flub or was that in the original Japanese too?

Manga: 30 years.
Anime: 20 years.

Ah interesting. 20 would be more accurate since Goku is only supposed to be 24 at this point so good of Toei to fix it

[Grimlock]

Eh, both would be as accurate as inaccurate, because technically the destruction happened twenty five years ago: AGE 762 - 25 = AGE 737. One rounded it down while the other rounded it up by five years.

Naturally, that number changes if we go by modern material that places the destruction of the planet in AGE 739 instead. It should be twenty three years ago, precisely. Which just ends up making Toei "more right" in the end... Kudos to them, I guess.

[MasenkoHA]

I find it weird Viz used “ Hercule” for Mr.Satan. What was the point? Censorship? They still used it once saying he was “the champion wrestler formerly known as Mr. Satan” and had no problem in talking about heaven, hell, and gods. Maybe it was some weird attempt at synergy with the Funimation dub but considering they used Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, Lord of Worlds (except for when they forget and call him Kaiosama), Nyoibo, and Kintoun that doesn’t seem like it would be the case.

I have a lot of localization issues with how Viz handled the manga but this one really bothered me.

[JulieYBM]

I find it weird Viz used “ Hercule” for Mr.Satan. What was the point? Censorship? They still used it once saying he was “the champion wrestler formerly known as Mr. Satan” and had no problem in talking about heaven, hell, and gods. Maybe it was some weird attempt at synergy with the Funimation dub but considering they used Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, Lord of Worlds (except for when they forget and call him Kaiosama), Nyoibo, and Kintoun that doesn’t seem like it would be the case.

I have a lot of localization issues with how Viz handled the manga but this one really bothered me.

Yeah, it makes no sense to me, either. It's such a weird and inconsistent move.

[jjgp1112]

I find it weird Viz used “ Hercule” for Mr.Satan. What was the point? Censorship? They still used it once saying he was “the champion wrestler formerly known as Mr. Satan” and had no problem in talking about heaven, hell, and gods. Maybe it was some weird attempt at synergy with the Funimation dub but considering they used Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, Lord of Worlds (except for when they forget and call him Kaiosama), Nyoibo, and Kintoun that doesn’t seem like it would be the case.

I have a lot of localization issues with how Viz handled the manga but this one really bothered me.

Some time around late 2004 Viz started censoring stuff. I have a all the monthly SHonen Jumps from that time and you can actually see the point where their approach changes. For instance, they edited out 17 pointing a gun at this guy's head here:



Their translation used to have swearing and all the violence retained but around Cell's arrival that all changes. So Hercule was likely part of that.

[MasenkoHA]

I find it weird Viz used “ Hercule” for Mr.Satan. What was the point? Censorship? They still used it once saying he was “the champion wrestler formerly known as Mr. Satan” and had no problem in talking about heaven, hell, and gods. Maybe it was some weird attempt at synergy with the Funimation dub but considering they used Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, Lord of Worlds (except for when they forget and call him Kaiosama), Nyoibo, and Kintoun that doesn’t seem like it would be the case.

I have a lot of localization issues with how Viz handled the manga but this one really bothered me.

Some time around late 2004 Viz started censoring stuff. I have a all the monthly SHonen Jumps from that time and you can actually see the point where their approach changes. Their translation used to have swearing and all the violence retained but around Cell's arrival that all changes. So Hercule was likely part of that.

That makes sense. I notice they even censored 17’s gun pointed at the elderly man into his fist even though they kept Gero squeezing that one guy’s head off.

[jjgp1112]

I find it weird Viz used “ Hercule” for Mr.Satan. What was the point? Censorship? They still used it once saying he was “the champion wrestler formerly known as Mr. Satan” and had no problem in talking about heaven, hell, and gods. Maybe it was some weird attempt at synergy with the Funimation dub but considering they used Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Muten Roshi, Lord of Worlds (except for when they forget and call him Kaiosama), Nyoibo, and Kintoun that doesn’t seem like it would be the case.

I have a lot of localization issues with how Viz handled the manga but this one really bothered me.

Some time around late 2004 Viz started censoring stuff. I have a all the monthly SHonen Jumps from that time and you can actually see the point where their approach changes. Their translation used to have swearing and all the violence retained but around Cell's arrival that all changes. So Hercule was likely part of that.

That makes sense. I notice they even censored 17’s gun pointed at the elderly man into his fist even though they kept Gero squeezing that one guy’s head off.

lmao I actually just added that in my edit as that was when I first really noticed the censorship and then went back and looked at everything else.

[JulieYBM]

Oh, right. Dragon Ball Z's graphic novels are actually listed as All Ages, compared to Dragon Ball's graphic novels, which are Teen. Very weird. I assume this was done because the brand name sells better lol

[Vhanos]

That makes sense. I notice they even censored 17’s gun pointed at the elderly man into his fist even though they kept Gero squeezing that one guy’s head off.

One thing I liked about the manga more is the gore.

In the anime the guy in the car who Android 20 choked didn't have his head explode. He just became unconscious and Android 20 let him go.

[SHINOBI-03]

That makes sense. I notice they even censored 17’s gun pointed at the elderly man into his fist even though they kept Gero squeezing that one guy’s head off.

One thing I liked about the manga more is the gore.

In the anime the guy in the car who Android 20 choked didn't have his head explode. He just became unconscious and Android 20 let him go.

His head didn't explode in the manga. Gero squeezed his neck so hard he plucked it off his body.

[BootyCheeksJohnson]

The Funimation home video releases starting with (I'm assuming) the orange bricks - present all use the Japanese end credits theme even when playing the English dub. However when playing the dub the opening theme songs instead use this generic track: https://youtu.be/6Cq80QOC7v4

Does anyone know where this track comes from? Why didn't they just create an English dubbed cover of "Cha-La Head-Cha-La" and "WE GOTTA POWER"? Was it a creative decision, or a licensing issue? I don't feel like this would be a licensing issue since they still use the original songs for the Japanese track, and since both the Dragon Ball and GT box sets made reworked English covers of their respective opening songs.