The horros of the passage of time, Super still feels pretty recent in my mind.
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) of 3 older, better stories from the 90s. The Moro arc at least tried to mix things up a bit, but for whatever reason couldn't reach its full potential. The Granola arc was more or less one big fight and a flashback. Finally, Superhero was about Gohan learning the importance of keeping up his training...how original. Don't even get me started on those terrible movie retellings, or the Superhero "arc" of the manga. Oh year, Tarble is a thing. Can't forget about him, considering the new movies made a point to mention him for some reason.
was. I feel so sorry for everyone attached to that anime; what a waste of their talent and time. That's the kind of shit that would make you quit the company and never look back. Don't forget about "that" Roshi episode.Jord wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:02 amNot to mention the incestuous storyline between deaged Mai and Kid Trunks, which was portrayed as "cute".
A lot of fans who grew up on Dragon Ball during the early 2000s were hoping for a continuation (including myself); what a mistake that was. Modern Dragon Ball is a great example as to why you should be careful for what you wish for. Dragon Ball should've ended when Goku flew off with Uub; after Toriyama put his pen down. Once Toei finished adapting the Buu arc and wrapped production on the final two movies (Wrath of the Dragon & Path to Power), that should've been it. We got so many products since then, with the vast majority of them ranging from mediocre to bad. You can count on one hand how many of them turned out alright, and you wouldn't even need a full set of fingers to do so. All the post-Z material has accomplished is devaluing the brand. The Dragon Ball manga and its two anime adaptions (DB & Z) is a really good Shonen series that inspired some of the most popular series around nowadays. That images deteriorates significantly when you add the likes of GT and Super to the mix.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:34 amI have mixed feelings myself, I always wanted the Dragon Ball TV anime to come back, Super satisfied that desire and now while I'll be happy if we get more I can finally make peace with never getting more if that is to be the case.
One of the major downsides of the modern era is that newer fans are more likely to be introduced to the franchise through these two series instead of DB & Z.TechExpert2021 wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:20 pmDragon Ball Super, along with Dragon Ball Z Kai, was my introduction to the Dragon Ball series.
There was an interview with his 3 editors a couple months ago (it was discussed here on the forums), and that's exactly what they said. They said he had very little passion for the post-BOG material, and that he was doing it more as a job rather than out of passion like the old days when he drew the manga. Daima is another project he put his all into, as both he and the staff said he was far more involved with it than everything else up to that point. I find it funny that the projects he was most involved and passionate about were the first and final ones to come out of this era.Jord wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:54 amTo me it feels like Toriyama had a lot of fun and passion working on Battle of Gods and basically checked out (or didn't care) for the rest of Super. The rest of the series feels half assed and is fueled by nostalgia, bringing back variations of old characters with a new color here and there.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
If there was one thing Super succeeded at, it was showing just how low the community's standards were for the franchise. Any other anime that was half as bad as Super would've instantly crashed and burned, but this debacle was breaking records. I just don't understand how a show that made every production and writing mistake under the sun was not only a major hit, but liked by so many people. Then again, the transformers movies were making a billion each for awhile, so maybe pretty fights is all it takes to capture an audience's interest nowadays.SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:18 amAn outstanding series that defined the 2010s. Considering how the Future Trunks saga had higher ratings than One Piece, Ultra Instinct literally broke streaming sites, and the Broly movie was the most successful Dragon Ball movie ever, I can only imagine it's the same for so many other people.
Good thing Super isn't just "any other anime" then lmao.Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:41 am Any other anime that was half as bad as Super would've instantly crashed and burned
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Lmao, I love this. That's just not a thing I would have expected someone to be nostalgic over and I love it.SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:18 am I have so much nostalgia for Super, I even have a nostalgia of the copium. That's right, I have nostalgia of spring/summer 2019 when everyone was sure the anime would return
She/Her Super could benefit from a Hunter X Hunter / Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood type remake that combines what worked in both the anime and manga, while ignoring what didn't. It could also includes the remaining manga arcs.Jack Bz wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:24 pmThere's always a part of me that will see Super as a "what if" project. It could have been so good if other aspects of it got a lot more time in the oven. There are big consistencies between writers, and a lot of poor animation/stylistic choices, etc.
I strongly believe that if Super comes back with the production quality of Daima and it covers the Moro Arc, people will eat that shit up no question. Me included.
