"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[budokaifanatic007]

I’m sad that FZ has pretty much died but this leaves room for BN to introduce a new 2D/2.5D Dragonball game.

[Jord]

I think we never got numbers of performance of/DLC sales , save for those online shop rankings?

[MCDaveG]

I’m sad that FZ has pretty much died but this leaves room for BN to introduce a new 2D/2.5D Dragonball game.

As much as I enjoyed Budokai series and FighterZ was awesome beyond expectations, I'd rather hope they give more time and care to recent games like Sparking Zero and we won't be subjected to rushed yearly releases.
Being spoiled by XV2's neverending support and brilliance of FighterZ, Sparking Zero kind left sour taste in my mouth and I never played or cared for Breakers.

Also, it will be virtually impossible to surpass FighterZ, unless they really take time and care into it.

[budokaifanatic007]

I’m sad that FZ has pretty much died but this leaves room for BN to introduce a new 2D/2.5D Dragonball game.

As much as I enjoyed Budokai series and FighterZ was awesome beyond expectations, I'd rather hope they give more time and care to recent games like Sparking Zero and we won't be subjected to rushed yearly releases.
Being spoiled by XV2's neverending support and brilliance of FighterZ, Sparking Zero kind left sour taste in my mouth and I never played or cared for Breakers.

Also, it will be virtually impossible to surpass FighterZ, unless they really take time and care into it.

I think we might see something take its spot, ArcSys apparently wasn't being treated well by BN so i doubt we will get anything from them anytime soon(plus their focus is on Tokon right now). Id honestly like the team at Dimps that worked on Street Fighter IV with capcom to make a new Competitive DB game. The game wouldn't necessarily have to be Budokai but as long as it kept the spirit of it with some tweaks and came with good single player content, it would be a smash hit. Both fan bases would be satisfied, the FGC and core DB fans.

[Xeogran]

New DLC Character!!

https://x.com/dragonballgames/status/19 ... 328736007/

[Kaboom]

Gross. The game already has two GT characters wielding the real, actually-good SS4. Feels like a step back to add this new imitation garbage as if they have to to fill some sort of quota. At least it's just optional DLC.

[JulieYBM]

New DLC Character!!

https://x.com/dragonballgames/status/19 ... 328736007/

Woah, this is a surprise. I'm looking forward to seeing how this pans out. Maybe they can get Nakatsuru to design a new, exclusive Baby form for shits-and-giggles to add in?

[Bardock God of Time]

Gross. The game already has two GT characters wielding the real, actually-good SS4. Feels like a step back to add this new imitation garbage as if they have to to fill some sort of quota. At least it's just optional DLC.

GT colors could be a palette swap for Daima SSJ4 Goku

[Kaboom]

GT colors could be a palette swap for Daima SSJ4 Goku

I'm going to be totally frank... That wasn't nearly good enough for Bardock in Sparking Zero, and it wouldn't be good enough here either.

And unless they'd change the model too then the doofy-looking enlarged gorilla arms would just drag down Real SS4's whole look anyway.

[JulieYBM]

Daima 4kuu is probably a new model and character so they they can use new techniques and voice recordings. I'm curious how they'll adapt the fights into his techniques, though. I imagine that they'll also give him animation based on the child form, too.

There should be a taunt where he uses his big hands to slap his ass, though.

[Scsigs]

Gross. The game already has two GT characters wielding the real, actually-good SS4. Feels like a step back to add this new imitation garbage as if they have to to fill some sort of quota. At least it's just optional DLC.

Jesus Christ. I get you have a bias against everything that came after GT, but what's actually objectively, legitimately wrong with including Daima SS4 Goku in this game? The way that they're portrayed in each series is different, the designs themselves are different, & I'm assuming the fighting style of the Daima variant will be different than GT's to set it apart. On top of that, are we really shocked that they're doing it? Xenoverse 2, Kakarot, & Sparking Zero all have been getting Daima DLC, so I'm personally not surprised about it. There are fans of this stuff & Bandai's trying to cater to the fans of everything in the games.

Also, Daima's SS4 looks good, imo. It looks like Toriyama took the base design from GT & just made it more feral & monkey-like. Plus, I like the red hair matching the red fur on the body. GT's design is good, Daima's version is also good for different reasons is what I'm saying.

[JulieYBM]

Gross. The game already has two GT characters wielding the real, actually-good SS4. Feels like a step back to add this new imitation garbage as if they have to to fill some sort of quota. At least it's just optional DLC.

Jesus Christ. I get you have a bias against everything that came after GT, but what's actually objectively, legitimately wrong with including Daima SS4 Goku in this game? The way that they're portrayed in each series is different, the designs themselves are different, & I'm assuming the fighting style of the Daima variant will be different than GT's to set it apart. On top of that, are we really shocked that they're doing it? Xenoverse 2, Kakarot, & Sparking Zero all have been getting Daima DLC, so I'm personally not surprised about it. There are fans of this stuff & Bandai's trying to cater to the fans of everything in the games.

Also, Daima's SS4 looks good, imo. It looks like Toriyama took the base design from GT & just made it more feral & monkey-like. Plus, I like the red hair matching the red fur on the body. GT's design is good, Daima's version is also good for different reasons is what I'm saying.

He's complaining about something inconsequential to avoid feeling powerless about something actually important in his life that he has no control over. Everyone does it, but it can be hard to accept that you're doing it (speaking from personal experience lulz).

Like, I get it, Daima as an over all television series sucks. It's not the most important thing in my life, though, so I don't need to make being annoying about it my personality.

I make being annoying about transphobia my personality, instead!

[MCDaveG]

Whoa! Didn't expected that at all!
But I won't be excited for just one out of the blue extra character in such an old and long done game, maybe, if I still played, but that ship has sailed. Anyway, cool stuff for those who still play.
You can look at half glass empty, but I see it as just a cheap and lazy promo, to keep the game relevant for tournament, as there is no other DBZ title that is tournament worthy (Sparking Zero won't cut it in FGC even with all those updates).

[Kaboom]

There doesn't need to be anything "objectively wrong" about adding Fake SS4 for me to be peeved about it. It's simply because the True Super Saiyan 4 from GT is one of my all-time favorite things from classic, actually-good Dragon Ball, and so — go figure — I don't like having some ugly, lazy, and ill-conceived pale imitation from the modern dreck pop up and invade its spotlight.

No armchair psychology required. I just dislike a sucky phoned-in version of something cool that I do like. It's just like with Bardock and Broli all over again.

But at the same time, and I've said this before, I have kind of a weird love/hate relationship with Fake SS4 here. I hate the form itself in a vacuum because... well, I already said why. But I'm also kind of still glad it exists because its debut firmly cemented Daima as being a separate continuity from either version of Super, driving yet another nail into the already airtight coffin of all the "Super is the one true sequel and the only thing that matters" drivel of the past 10 years.

So as odd as it sounds, part of me is glad that Fake SS4 exists, but another part of me hates actually seeing it. It's almost funny.

[SSGpotota]

Glad to see this game getting some love again, I hope it's not just a one-time thing and keep supporting the game again

[Jord]

I am not a fan of Daima, but I love this for the sheer WTF-ness of it. I thought they moved on, especially with the new Marvel game, which looks gorgeous.

We didn't get any Super Hero DLC or anything. The last DLC character was Android 21 (lab coat) in 2022, which felt like a reuse of assets. If we discount that, the "last" DLC character was Gogeta SSJ4 in March 2021, which will be 5 years old when Daima Goku releases.
Plus balance updates are coming soon.

Guess the game got revived somehow.

[funrush]

There doesn't need to be anything "objectively wrong" about adding Fake SS4 for me to be peeved about it. It's simply because the True Super Saiyan 4 from GT is one of my all-time favorite things from classic, actually-good Dragon Ball, and so — go figure — I don't like having some ugly, lazy, and ill-conceived pale imitation from the modern dreck pop up and invade its spotlight.

I've never heard someone call it Fake SS4 LOL. There's almost something comedic in how much you hate the Daima version of it. GT SS4 is pretty sick though. It's got like an aura the Daima version doesn't have. Every time I see your PFP I'm reminded how dope it is.

Maybe this new DLC will have a color swap to make it look like GT Goku but as you said the proportions are different so it wouldn't be the same.

I am not a fan of Daima, but I love this for the sheer WTF-ness of it. I thought they moved on, especially with the new Marvel game, which looks gorgeous.

We didn't get any Super Hero DLC or anything. The last DLC character was Android 21 (lab coat) in 2022, which felt like a reuse of assets. If we discount that, the "last" DLC character was Gogeta SSJ4 in March 2021, which will be 5 years old when Daima Goku releases.
Plus balance updates are coming soon.

Guess the game got revived somehow.

Yeah I was pretty confident this game was dead. Crazy! I kind of figured they were done with the IP until a Fighterz2 years and years down the line which would have like the Super Hero stuff and the Daima stuff and whatever else gets made in the next 5 or so years.

So I'm like what's even going on here? Why a single character years later? Did the Dragon Ball people ask ArcSys to put this in? Or did ArcSys watch Daima and get really inspired to make this? Should this be an indication that we might see other new characters in the future, or is this a weird one-off thing?

This is my favorite of the post-PS2 Dragon Ball fighting games so to see it get more content is really awesome and I'd love more.

[Cold Skin]

I'm so glad that if only one Super Saiyan 4 Goku is to be included, they chose the correct one!
Nice surprise, but there's still at least Gohan Beast missing for the game to bridge the gap with the latest releases! Oh well, it'll be a little, movie-large gap in the roster, not that big a deal after all!

Can't wait to see the intro, win pose and ultimate!

The 2nd color palette will surely be a callback to the ugly GT palette that lacked Toriyama's good taste back then, but at least it will still be a SLIGHTLY visually upgraded "GT Super Saiyan 4" update thanks to the appearance staying the same and the animation still being based on the Daima version rather that the lackluster boring fights in GT in which Super Saiyan 4 failed to be impressive and nice to see at any given time.

I love being able to finally like Super Saiyan 4 now that it looks good!

The only downside to the new Super Saiyan 4 - but that doesn't come into play in games - is that I prefered the explanation in GT clearly stating and showing that it's a mix between a Super Saiyan's human form and monkey form (which is now something that belongs exclusively to Broly in a stylish way), requiring a process that explains why it looks different compared to the other Super Saiyans (it could have even been named another way than "4" since it's not really in the continuity but something else entirely, much like God forms).
You can imagine it's also the case in Daima with pushing further than Super Saiyan 3 is taping so far that it brings out the ape trait Saiyans have in themselves, but it is never stated or explored, it's just stated and shown as "what happens when you can push further that Super Saiyan 3 thanks to training" and that's it, the rest is up to your observations and imagination.

But despite the simpler "it's just the transformation above 3" setup, it is still a remade appearance that makes him finally likable to me, finally nice to see, including in the many games we'll probably see him in now!

[Kaboom]

I've never heard someone call it Fake SS4 LOL.

Well the meta reason for that title should be obvious. But it fits in-universe too, since the genuine article from GT is gained (relatively) naturally by the Golden Ape process, while the Daima version was just zapped into existence by magic. It's kind of like False SS1 from Z Movie 4, or something.

There's almost something comedic in how much you hate the Daima version of it.

Yeah I guess. Especially considering the "hate the form itself but still kinda glad it exists" conundrum I already described.

Doesn't mean it's undeserved though.

[WittyUsername]

This is a pretty shocking development. I’m genuinely curious to see if there will be more DLC characters after this or if this is just a one-time thing.