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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by Jord » Sun Oct 19, 2025 9:31 am

nineko wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:40 am To give this topic a straight answer, no, I wouldn't want to see more recycled villains, I'd prefer new content, then again I'd settle for anything at all, after literal years of draught.

Many of you mentioned Cooler, it's an idea which could have had merit if played between Broly and Granolah, because Freeza did mention that he wanted a partner in the Broly movie, but that was before he achieved his black form and k.o.'d Goku and Vegeta with a single punch in the Granolah arc.

With all that said, it is now time for a troll answer: I'd bring back Monster Carrot. He deserves a second chance after having been exiled on the Moon (which also exploded in the mean time) for decades.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by nineko » Sun Oct 19, 2025 10:39 am

I know. In the first draft of my post I actually mentioned a hypothetical "resurrection of M.C." movie, but I removed that line because I thought it wasn't needed to deliver the joke, it looks like I was wrong.

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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by TechExpert2021 » Sun Oct 19, 2025 11:06 am

Janenba, except that he's recolored green and can actually talk. And with a new transformation, with its power on par with Goku's Ultra Instinct.

I would also mention Coola, like the others had said. But with Coola getting a black transformation like Freeza.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by Peach » Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:41 pm

IntangibleFancy wrote: Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:21 pm Cooler
With Turles and Slug being his Zarbon and Dodoria

I want Janemba too, but I feel like he'd have to pretty big. GoD level maybe? Angel level feels like it's kinda pushing it. Either way, if they do make him that strong, whatever they do to kill him has gotta be a one time thing.
I forgot about Slug :D

Though, he's too strong of a presence to be a henchmen or lackey. There's a lot of different routes they could go with Slug depending on the continuity - from the demon realm in Daima, from universe 6 or Cereal in Super. Maybe even an orange form of his own.

Turles could be a doppleganger of Goku from universe 6. :think:

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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

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SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:53 am Although, if you ask me, Cooler is pretty unnecessary when we have Frost. If the idea of Cooler is to make a storyline where Cooler clashes with Freeza, then Frost is right there and is perfect for that.
Does anyone even care about Frost? He’s such a nothing character. Besides, you could easily argue that Broly was unnecessary after Kale, but a lot of people still loved the new take on him.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:31 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:13 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:53 am Although, if you ask me, Cooler is pretty unnecessary when we have Frost. If the idea of Cooler is to make a storyline where Cooler clashes with Freeza, then Frost is right there and is perfect for that.
Does anyone even care about Frost? He’s such a nothing character. Besides, you could easily argue that Broly was unnecessary after Kale, but a lot of people still loved the new take on him.
Frost works best as being separate with Freeza. There's a story you can tell if Frost is not like Freeza or is significantly different in a way that reflects on where Freeza has been and where he is going, but with Coola, you can make a direct parallel between the two because they are related. This is why I suggested that Coola should actually not be like Freeza, rather than how the two films he was in previously showscased him as a character who was just "Freeza, but more arrogant."
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by Peach » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:37 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:13 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:53 am Although, if you ask me, Cooler is pretty unnecessary when we have Frost. If the idea of Cooler is to make a storyline where Cooler clashes with Freeza, then Frost is right there and is perfect for that.
Does anyone even care about Frost? He’s such a nothing character. Besides, you could easily argue that Broly was unnecessary after Kale, but a lot of people still loved the new take on him.
I thought it was interesting that Frost was played by Frieza's actor's brother. But besides that, you're right. He's basically a meeker version of Frieza who had to be shrewd with a good guy masquerade because the Saiyans were too strong to be subjugated or destroyed outright.

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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:56 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:13 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:53 am Although, if you ask me, Cooler is pretty unnecessary when we have Frost. If the idea of Cooler is to make a storyline where Cooler clashes with Freeza, then Frost is right there and is perfect for that.
Does anyone even care about Frost? He’s such a nothing character. Besides, you could easily argue that Broly was unnecessary after Kale, but a lot of people still loved the new take on him.
I do. Always did, always will. I found his gimmick very interesting because he proved he was even more subtle and manipulative than Freeza. With what Freeza did to him at the Tournament of Power, he also has a valid reason to seek revenge.

Super Broly and DBZ Broly are nothing alike, so that's not redundant. Therefore, Super Cooler would be tolerable only if he was a complete reimagination of DBZ Cooler - at which point, I have to ask what's the point of doing that vs. simply using Frost again. Besides the lack of nostalgia for DBZ with Frost, of course.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by BernardoCairo » Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:41 pm

I know it would be a terrible idea, but I'd like Piccolo Daimaoh to return in some form. It would be cool to see him confront Piccolo. Maybe they could even fuse, like in that GBA game.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by IntangibleFancy » Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:28 pm

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Peach wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:41 pm
IntangibleFancy wrote: Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:21 pm Cooler
With Turles and Slug being his Zarbon and Dodoria

I want Janemba too, but I feel like he'd have to pretty big. GoD level maybe? Angel level feels like it's kinda pushing it. Either way, if they do make him that strong, whatever they do to kill him has gotta be a one time thing.
I forgot about Slug :D

Though, he's too strong of a presence to be a henchmen or lackey. There's a lot of different routes they could go with Slug depending on the continuity - from the demon realm in Daima, from universe 6 or Cereal in Super. Maybe even an orange form of his own.

Turles could be a doppleganger of Goku from universe 6. :think:
Ehh, Zarbon, Dodoria, and the Ginyus all had their own presence and flair before being killed. And none of them even betrayed Frieza or had their own motives. I feel like if it’s handled right, slug and turles could both be lackeys while also still retaining their original charm.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:06 pm

Tullece couldnreally serve as his own arc lead. I think he's a good platform for doing a sort of Saiyan who had to develop a way of life after the destruction of his world and culture.

That or maybe make him Bardock's brother lol
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by WittyUsername » Sun Oct 19, 2025 11:15 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:56 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:13 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:53 am Although, if you ask me, Cooler is pretty unnecessary when we have Frost. If the idea of Cooler is to make a storyline where Cooler clashes with Freeza, then Frost is right there and is perfect for that.
Does anyone even care about Frost? He’s such a nothing character. Besides, you could easily argue that Broly was unnecessary after Kale, but a lot of people still loved the new take on him.
I do. Always did, always will. I found his gimmick very interesting because he proved he was even more subtle and manipulative than Freeza. With what Freeza did to him at the Tournament of Power, he also has a valid reason to seek revenge.

Super Broly and DBZ Broly are nothing alike, so that's not redundant. Therefore, Super Cooler would be tolerable only if he was a complete reimagination of DBZ Cooler - at which point, I have to ask what's the point of doing that vs. simply using Frost again. Besides the lack of nostalgia for DBZ with Frost, of course.
I think Frost would’ve worked a lot better if he was genuinely the heroic person he was initially presented as. They could’ve still had him use the poison to briefly take Goku out of commission by establishing that he was desperate to win the tournament because he needed Champa to assist his peacekeeping force. Instead, they went with the boring option of “he cheated because he’s a jerk and he’s just like Freeza”.

Anyway, the Tournament of Power already presented Frost as a joke who’s completely outmatched by Freeza. The idea of him coming back to seek revenge doesn’t sound like the kind of thing that would appeal to fans.

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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by PowerPhantom245 » Sun Oct 19, 2025 11:43 pm

Here's a better idea.
Why not come up with original villain?

lol XD

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Post by coola » Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:58 am

No Bojack, please. Maybe Janemba and army of decased? And this time give everyone something to do :)
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by super michael » Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:40 am

Freeza is alive, C17 and C18 are good and Kid Buu reincarnated as Uub. Fat Buu is no longer evil anymore.
The only villain soul to stay dead is Cell, Cell Max doesn't have the same DNA and soul as Cell.

I guess it would be good to see Cell reincarnate or resurrect him. There is the Cell Jrs, which is only manga exclusive but they don't do anything.

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SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:36 am
JulieYBM wrote: Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:13 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:46 pm I remember seeing a comment on these forums back in 2019 that suggested that if Baby ever got brought back for DBS, then he could have a sort of Venom dynamic with Freeza, where they essentially bond over their mutual hatred of Saiyans. For whatever reason, that idea always stuck with me.
A couple of evil queens plotting sweet revenge against a mutual enemy makes for good television! Just look at how delicious every interaction between Gokuu Black and Zamasu was!
Yes, it was a delightful and unique dynamic, made even funnier by the fact that they're the same person, so they referred to each other as "my counterpart". Also, Black and Zamasu are one of the few villainous duos in the series who don't turn against each other.

But according to OP, Black and Zamasu are just a "Ginyu" rehash.

In OP's logic, Cell was just a rehash of Freeza because they got the same cells.
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Re: Who is the next villain you'd like to get recycled?

Post by Majin Buu » Sun Oct 26, 2025 8:57 am

BernardoCairo wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:41 pm I know it would be a terrible idea, but I'd like Piccolo Daimaoh to return in some form. It would be cool to see him confront Piccolo. Maybe they could even fuse, like in that GBA game.
Thinking about it:

Since the current Piccolo is completely reformed, for another Piccolo Daimao to be possible, he'd theoretically have to regain enough evil to have to again expel it into a new evil Piccolo, like how Kami spawned the original. So you're looking at either turning Piccolo evil against his will by a Babidi-like third party or him making some self-sacrifice for power that infects him with some kind of evil energy (It could be from a forbidden technique or some ancient evil artifact).

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Post by Jord » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:23 pm

Majin Buu wrote: Sun Oct 26, 2025 8:57 am
BernardoCairo wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:41 pm I know it would be a terrible idea, but I'd like Piccolo Daimaoh to return in some form. It would be cool to see him confront Piccolo. Maybe they could even fuse, like in that GBA game.
Thinking about it:

Since the current Piccolo is completely reformed, for another Piccolo Daimao to be possible, he'd theoretically have to regain enough evil to have to again expel it into a new evil Piccolo, like how Kami spawned the original. So you're looking at either turning Piccolo evil against his will by a Babidi-like third party or him making some self-sacrifice for power that infects him with some kind of evil energy (It could be from a forbidden technique or some ancient evil artifact).
Both sound better than boring Piccolo we got since the Buu saga.
The only two big character moments was him getting send to hell (ironically pretending to be Daimao) in GT and getting a power up in Super, looking bulky.
I'd take both of your ideas. Piccolo is one of the more smarter people in the DB cast. Giving him power and his wisdom would make for an interesting bad guy.

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