Should Dragon Ball's canon be reset?

[GurixDr34]

There are currently two companies fighting for the Dragon Ball rights there are rumors that Daima will be a different universe from Super and that it will have a sequel soon so i dont know I'm open to any possibility any fate is fine for me whether its more Daima or more Super its all the same to me i will continue enjoying Dragon Ball

[Yellow Flower King]

I think the manga should be re adapted but I dont think the old anime will ever be reset or be obsolete.

[Makaioshin]

Daima already doesn't really acknowledge Super and even before that both DBS: SH and DBS: Broly don't really line up either version of Super whether it is the the TV show or the V-Jump manga. I imagine future stories may continue in this vague sense while not really acknowledging any hard continuity.

Either way, so much of what fans have understood as canon is tied directly to Toriyama himself. Without Toriyama, they can reset it or remix it in any way they want but it won't really register. New stories may even come and still be credited to him with vague assertions that they were based on some of his notes in the same way they have been promoting stories for awhile now.

[JulieYBM]

Dragon Ball Super has very much operated in a space of mostly being episodic in the way that it's arcs tie together. I think this is a combination of things, like Toriyama not noting smaller details in his timeline, or the anime having different series directors for each arc. In my opinion, I think the most cohesive Dragon Ball ever felt was the Tournament of Power arc, but I think that has to do with Tomioka Atsuhiro and other writers filling in the gaps and fleshing out the skeleton of Toriyama's notes with building the Point A to Point B for each characters' arc. Even the anime-original episodes connecting the bigger arcs felt like they tried to carry things over and have a sense of status quo. I think the movies don't fit because they're designed to be easily digestable for people who didn't watch the series, too.

Dragon Ball Daima also suffers from this because it's basically written with little in the way of the staff having their own ideas to straighten up and fleshout Toriyama's ideas into episodes that feel like they have beginnings, middles and ends.

[Zephyr]

The first chapter of Dragon Ball opens by describing the events to follow as having happened a long time ago, from the perspective of the narrator. As stories get told and retold over long stretches of time, details begin to change and vary depending on the telling of it. Yet the broad strokes seem to persist. It might be helpful to look at various works in the franchise in this way, when they don't really fit together. Kaio shares the narrator's voice, and that's good enough for me to simply imagine DB's different continuities as different instances of Kaio recounting past events.

So I guess with that in mind, am I interested in hearing Kaio "tell it again", but maybe smoothing some things out? Sure, why not.

[JulieYBM]

Grandpa, but he takes his meds this time.

[MasenkoHA]

Grandpa, but he takes his meds this time.

Grandpa, but he makes Son Goku go to school and conveniently West Metro is 30 KM west of Mount Paozu and he goes to West Metro School with one Buruma Canonically-Has-No-Last-Name

[JulieYBM]

Grandpa, but he takes his meds this time.

Grandpa, but he makes Son Goku go to school and conveniently West Metro is 30 KM west of Mount Paozu and he goes to West Metro School with one Buruma Canonically-Has-No-Last-Name

I need this, actually.

"Seven Dragon Balls hidden around the city, Gokuu and Blooma—then later, their other schoolmates—searching for them after school" would be a really interesting new spin on the character dynamics and forcing Gokuu especially to grow and change.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I can't see Goku going to school going down well, I remember reviews of Evolution making fun of that aspect of the story. Although I guess it didn't help that was only part of what made the movie a generic high school action flick.

[YamiGoku]

I miss when Dragon Ball was always moving foward, I'm tired of living on the same never ending period of time.


As much as I love Goku and Co, I think I would like if they start over with a new cast of characters on the same universe of course but manny years later, i fear that even if Goku nad Vegeta would finally pass the torch to the younglings and retire, they'll have to make excuses evry time something world ending happens for them to not show up and win, making it years later with a new cast helps by not having them at all and also resets the power levels problem.

I know this probably would never happen, but I think it would be perfect for them to end dragon ball main story now that Toriyama is no loger with us, and start a new story with fresh blood and new ideas.

[JulieYBM]

I can't see Goku going to school going down well, I remember reviews of Evolution making fun of that aspect of the story. Although I guess it didn't help that was only part of what made the movie a generic high school action flick.

Dragon Ball Evolution sucked, that was the problem, not that Goku went to school.

[Tian]

I think one of the biggest flaws from Evolution is that the main character wasn't written as Goku himself but as some teenager becoming Goku.

Even though the character refer him as Goku for the whole movie, the poorly written script makes you feel that he isn't properly Goku until he wears the movie's mediocre version of his famous dōgi.

They clearly misunderstood Goku as some kind of super hero alter-ego rather than a martial arts fighter.

So yeah, for the most of the movie, he isn't Son Goku but the average teenager Sonny Gordon.

[JulieYBM]

I think one of the biggest flaws from Evolution is that the main character wasn't written as Goku himself but as some teenager becoming Goku.

Even though the character refer him as Goku for the whole movie, the poorly written script makes you feel that he isn't properly Goku until he wears the movie's mediocre version of his famous dōgi.

They clearly misunderstood Goku as some kind of super hero alter-ego rather than a martial arts fighter.

So yeah, for the most of the movie, he isn't Son Goku but the average teenager Sonny Gordon.

He's very much written as a base, generic and inoffensive white boy archetype, which betrays the wealth of good conflict you can mine out of writing him a bit closer to "Gokuu, but he's living in a city and going to school." I think that's really the film's big failing. Anything that could make him difficult and claah with other characters is dropped in favor of repeating the same inoffensive archetype, rather than making him a well-rounded character.

[MasenkoHA]

I can't see Goku going to school going down well, I remember reviews of Evolution making fun of that aspect of the story. Although I guess it didn't help that was only part of what made the movie a generic high school action flick.

The actual problem is they completely rejected Goku’s characterization in favor of a Peter Parker knock off. Goku going to school in and of itself is not a problem and the Dr.Slump 97 anime even did that exact plot in the Dragon Ball crossover.


You can have a Son Goku goes to school plot and keep his socially clueless no manners country bumpkin persona and not have him fret about popularity and bullies and if Chi Chi will like him.

[WittyUsername]

DBE obviously did itself no favors by shamelessly copying the Spider-Man formula, but I can’t imagine any scenario where Goku going to school wouldn’t have pissed a bunch of people off.

[JulieYBM]

DBE obviously did itself no favors by shamelessly copying the Spider-Man formula, but I can’t imagine any scenario where Goku going to school wouldn’t have pissed a bunch of people off.

A movie that tries to please everybody is going to please nobody. You can make a good film in which Gokuu goes to school, because it doesn't get in the way of any of the cool things about Dragon Ball: the martial arts, the character dynamics and the poop jokes.

[M16U3L2015]

Now I remember that there have been two attempts to create a DB story based on the school environment, which were the beginning of the Buu saga with Gohan and the beginning of Toyotaro's adaptation of Super Hero with Trunks and Goten.

[Koitsukai]

Goku going to school is, in paper, a great opportunity to go all out on the typical Toriyama humor. You don't even need to come up with new jokes, just borrow those from the manga and adapt them to a school setting. Instead of asking dumb questions to Roshi or Bulma, he does that but in class, to the teacher or to his classmates.
The obvious physical superiority could be shown similarly to what Gohan showed when playing baseball, but to the extreme.

[JulieYBM]

Blooma as the homeroom teacher, Yamcha as another teacher, the Muten Roushi as the principal with Lunch as his assisstant, Kuririn and Chi-Chi as his classmates...it writes itself.

[miguelnuva1]

Toriyama orginally had Goku going to school in his concept.

Goku is naive not stupid so him in school wouldn't be a problem you just need him to be as somone mentioned like Gohan.

Drop him in middle school when he first meets Bulma and problem solved. Goku can be shown to be a genius when it comes to outdoors and wildlife and even in physical education. Then it comes to academics and the jokes start.

If you look at him from the 23rd-Buu I wouldn't even say he is a person that didn't go to school just thst he is naive and easy going.