Goku's Power-level as a toddler

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

It could be a case where scouter-defined power levels aren't as relevant at such low levels compared to one's biology.

So as a Saiyan, Goku would've been far stronger through his natural physiology even if his Ki wasn't as high yet.

[dragon boss z]

So, you think that Goku, having a power-level of 5 around this age, would have managed to survive a deep fall into a ravine? I understand Saiyans are supposed to be built different, but if Goku were to get shot, he'd die. If Son Gohan were to get shot when he was a kid in the Saiyan Arc before Raditz, he'd bleed out. I don't know. I can't even see it being just ten, to be honest.

I said between. 6 could be massively super human. Early power levels aren't linear.

The farmer that met Raditz had one of five. Can't say he does Martial Arts because judging by his occupation and health habits (smoking), he is nothing more than a strong person in body and due to his work. Comparing 6 to someone of 5 is in no way remotely superhuman in my opinion, but for the basis of your argument, I understand where you're coming from - believing power-levels aren't linear as early as a stage as this would help that make sense.

Kid Goku had a power level of 10, 2x a human, yet could throw a car and tank bullets. Then there is Roshi and Piccolo destroy the moon with a power level in the hundreds. This basically confirms power levels didn't grow linearly, at least in the early stages. I could see dragon ball martial artists like Mr. Satan being a 6-9, but real life humans, even martial artists, would still probably be a 5.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Raditz accidentally misread Farmer’s power as 5 when it actually was 0.5.

[novashibe]

I'm more leaning to that age-old mistake - having the scouter upside down. Farmer With a Shotgun will now be known for his power level of 2.

[nineko]

Except that an upside down 5 is still a 5, it's not like a 6 or a 9.

[dbgtFO]

Goku could be strong physically without ki being a factor.
I feel like there must still exist differences in relative strengths between different species and races and so on, that doesn't exclusively come down to ki.
A human with equal ki amount to a rhinoceros is not going to be as strong, I think.
The rhinoceros would have naturally stronger skin, bones and muscles, while the human would excel in throwing things and what not with our opposing thumbs and stuff.
Ki is what makes it possible for beings to break past such limits, but at lower levels, you'll be relying much more on your non ki-derived characteristics.

So maybe Saiyans have more muscle strength than what a human at the battle power of 2 could do?
That's how we usually justified as I recall.

[novashibe]

Except that an upside down 5 is still a 5, it's not like a 6 or a 9.

Oh come on, it looks enough like a 2 for my silly little joke post to work.

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

Goku could be strong physically without ki being a factor.
I feel like there must still exist differences in relative strengths between different species and races and so on, that doesn't exclusively come down to ki.
A human with equal ki amount to a rhinoceros is not going to be as strong, I think.
The rhinoceros would have naturally stronger skin, bones and muscles, while the human would excel in throwing things and what not with our opposing thumbs and stuff.
Ki is what makes it possible for beings to break past such limits, but at lower levels, you'll be relying much more on your non ki-derived characteristics.

So maybe Saiyans have more muscle strength than what a human at the battle power of 2 could do?
That's how we usually justified as I recall.

Yeah, that's the idea I went with as well.

With such low amounts of latent Ki, I imagine actual physical differences matter more in terms of how strong a being can be. So as a Saiyan, Goku would've naturally been far stronger than any human of equivalent amount of Ki at that time.

[Yasai9001]

Goku could be strong physically without ki being a factor.
I feel like there must still exist differences in relative strengths between different species and races and so on, that doesn't exclusively come down to ki.
A human with equal ki amount to a rhinoceros is not going to be as strong, I think.
The rhinoceros would have naturally stronger skin, bones and muscles, while the human would excel in throwing things and what not with our opposing thumbs and stuff.
Ki is what makes it possible for beings to break past such limits, but at lower levels, you'll be relying much more on your non ki-derived characteristics.

So maybe Saiyans have more muscle strength than what a human at the battle power of 2 could do?
That's how we usually justified as I recall.

Yeah, that's the idea I went with as well.

With such low amounts of latent Ki, I imagine actual physical differences matter more in terms of how strong a being can be. So as a Saiyan, Goku would've naturally been far stronger than any human of equivalent amount of Ki at that time.

So at what point would it take for an Earthling to be able to have the equivalent amount of strength of a Saiyan despite having the same amount of ki? In your opinion.