There's also the fact that this was the project Toriyama was most involved with since this revival began, so I could see them leaving it alone out of respect for him.Skar wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:13 amI think it would be easier to keep them separate continuities. It's not just the transformations but also some of the lore doesn't seem like it's intended to be in the same continuity.
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The idea of remaking or recutting Super and only Super is hilariously misguided to me, especially if they were to keep Yamamuro in charge.
Super is the most mediocre Dragon Ball show. Not the worst, necessarily, but the idea of not just doing more of that but not even doing all of it is ridiculous. I'm not saying whether it is or isn't what they're doing, just that it's a dumb idea either way. The episode count and pacing were never what was wrong with Super! By all accounts it is the Dragon Ball property that feels best as a TV show. I even like the little "filler" (not really filler but that's a different argument) stories between arcs, they were light fun. The problem was always that it was ugly poorly-planned television. And that's the sort of thing that needs all hands on deck, not a quickie sticky recut, you need to go back to the drawing board. They can keep the name, but at this point I'd rather see a remake of the entire canon that goes its own way diverting even from the manga if it makes for good storytelling, incorporating whatever elements it needs to from all fourteen arcs of the two mangas (yes I am counting a two-page spread of Broly as an 'arc' here) and stripping down the movies, specials, GT, Daima, Filler and whatever video games aren't garbage for parts. Recast every voice, put determined young creatives who like but do not worship the original in charge, and come out with something unique instead of continuing to stagnate. If Freeza's middle transformations are boring, either change them or axe them. If the justification for doing nothing against Gero for three years is stupid, change it. If Goku fails to hold interest as a protagonist, move on from Goku. Nothing sacred anymore.
Wallowing in a TV series that already spent all its time wallowing in other, better comic books, is a waste of time. You might as well just do another Dragon Ball Kai, since they still kinda fucked it up the first time! You could even get the original performances intact, since one of the major and ethical uses of Neural Nets is vocal isolation, and we have the high quality audio for both old shows now!
They won't do this, of course, because they suck, but a pup can dream.
Super is the most mediocre Dragon Ball show. Not the worst, necessarily, but the idea of not just doing more of that but not even doing all of it is ridiculous. I'm not saying whether it is or isn't what they're doing, just that it's a dumb idea either way. The episode count and pacing were never what was wrong with Super! By all accounts it is the Dragon Ball property that feels best as a TV show. I even like the little "filler" (not really filler but that's a different argument) stories between arcs, they were light fun. The problem was always that it was ugly poorly-planned television. And that's the sort of thing that needs all hands on deck, not a quickie sticky recut, you need to go back to the drawing board. They can keep the name, but at this point I'd rather see a remake of the entire canon that goes its own way diverting even from the manga if it makes for good storytelling, incorporating whatever elements it needs to from all fourteen arcs of the two mangas (yes I am counting a two-page spread of Broly as an 'arc' here) and stripping down the movies, specials, GT, Daima, Filler and whatever video games aren't garbage for parts. Recast every voice, put determined young creatives who like but do not worship the original in charge, and come out with something unique instead of continuing to stagnate. If Freeza's middle transformations are boring, either change them or axe them. If the justification for doing nothing against Gero for three years is stupid, change it. If Goku fails to hold interest as a protagonist, move on from Goku. Nothing sacred anymore.
Wallowing in a TV series that already spent all its time wallowing in other, better comic books, is a waste of time. You might as well just do another Dragon Ball Kai, since they still kinda fucked it up the first time! You could even get the original performances intact, since one of the major and ethical uses of Neural Nets is vocal isolation, and we have the high quality audio for both old shows now!
They won't do this, of course, because they suck, but a pup can dream.
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I concur with Shaddy. Shake it up! Surprise me! What's the worse that can happen?
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Good. I was only asking because I've seen people genuinely say crazy shit like that on reddit and youtube comments and 100% believing in it, this fandom can be like this at times lolmiguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:41 pmI'm being sarcastic.PhantomSaiyan wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:06 pmIt's crazy how you sound both dead serious and 100% ironic at the same time and I can't for the life of me figure out which one it ismiguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:29 pm Nan we'll get Black Frieza in the manga and the anime will have Golden Frieza fusing with Golden Cooler based on the ending to Broly.
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To be clear, I'm not saying this couldn't also be a collossal fuckup. What I'm asking for here is something that would divide the fandom and take a lark on ideas that are completely untested. There would be backlash, and as much as I'm championing the young talent, they're more receptive to overcorrection, and the series could become erratic and confusing. Much as I do think Super was mediocre, it clearly had a formula that brought it success. What I'm asking for would be extremely expensive and really could cross a line that tanks the series.
I'm just, y'know, not all that upset about that prospect. Dragon Ball was over for a long time and it's probably okay for it to be over again. I'd just prefer for it to go out on an interesting note.
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yes but I'm a perfect princess goddess, i don't care if the fandom gets pissy because things are different nowShaddy wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 12:39 pm
To be clear, I'm not saying this couldn't also be a collossal fuckup. What I'm asking for here is something that would divide the fandom and take a lark on ideas that are completely untested. There would be backlash, and as much as I'm championing the young talent, they're more receptive to overcorrection, and the series could become erratic and confusing. Much as I do think Super was mediocre, it clearly had a formula that brought it success. What I'm asking for would be extremely expensive and really could cross a line that tanks the series.
I'm just, y'know, not all that upset about that prospect. Dragon Ball was over for a long time and it's probably okay for it to be over again. I'd just prefer for it to go out on an interesting note.
I mean, the way things are now are not exactly great. Daima was stiffly written and Super Hero was a bore-fest. The magic sauce really was in the Tournament of Power arc, which did technically have fresh blood mixed with a strong leader with a strong vision—the recently passed Nagamine Tatsuya and veteran writer Tomioka Atsuhiro on scripts.
I think there's not much in the way to lose. The online fandom is already insufferable as it is, might as well throw some curve balls.
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Apparently, one of the leaked gengas got DMCA’d by Toei so it’s looking more and more likely that the leaks were real..
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Yeah I assume Toei and Shueisha would respect Toriyama's last work. I think the most we'll see from Dragon Ball without Toriyama is maybe occasionally a movie or short spinoff. The main appeal of the revival was the original author being involved and not just another case of a studio bringing back an old franchise until it flops. That's more of a Hollywood approach and not sure if any Japanese studio has done that.The Dark Knight wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 9:32 amThere's also the fact that this was the project Toriyama was most involved with since this revival began, so I could see them leaving it alone out of respect for him.
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Toriyama was already transitioning out of Dragon Ball, at least Super, by giving Toyotaro more creative freedom. I definitely think Super will continue, just potentially without taking anything from Daima into account.Skar wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:24 pmI think the most we'll see from Dragon Ball without Toriyama is maybe occasionally a movie or short spinoff. The main appeal of the revival was the original author being involved and not just another case of a studio bringing back an old franchise until it flops. That's more of a Hollywood approach and not sure if any Japanese studio has done that.
Toei just basically confirmed these leaks by doing that. So, a Super remaster, that's definitely an interesting choice. I hope they show enough of it at the event and not just tell us about it. The Super anime we have hit some pretty low lows, so at least things can only improve.sonrazor wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:14 pmApparently, one of the leaked gengas got DMCA’d by Toei so it’s looking more and more likely that the leaks were real..
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Well Toriyama was just supervising less often in the last two arcs. In my opinion, the next arc would have to be the better than anything before to makeup for no involvement Toriyama and come anywhere close to previous sales. For all we know it might only be one arc to complete the series since it's only a few months to a year until of EoZ.The Dark Knight wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:48 pmToriyama was already transitioning out of Dragon Ball, at least Super, by giving Toyotaro more creative freedom. I definitely think Super will continue, just potentially without taking anything from Daima into account.
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I think the actual leakers not debunking the gengas like they did with the fake Janemba leak and the Torishima movie thing, and the Vegeta movie rumors (the torishima thing happened around the same time the gengas started getting passed around too) has convinced me that the gengas have some kind of truth to them.
My hopium is that it's just from a flashback sequence. But we probably are getting a Super remaster and I feel like that's a total waste. The anime was a mess, but if they're not going to fully remake it then why even bother? Not that I'd want that either.
My hopium is that it's just from a flashback sequence. But we probably are getting a Super remaster and I feel like that's a total waste. The anime was a mess, but if they're not going to fully remake it then why even bother? Not that I'd want that either.
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So wait, Is Super getting a full-on remake, or just a remastered recut akin to Kai?
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No official announcement has been made. Rumors refer to a re-edited version, but that's not been verified at all.shadd21 wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:15 pm So wait, Is Super getting a full-on remake, or just a remastered recut akin to Kai?
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But if this is only going to be a recut, then why would they need gengas? I know nothing has been officially confirmed, this is just a hypothetical question.
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Assuming that that sheet is part of said project, they're likely creating a few new cuts, too. Compilation films do it, so it's hardly a new concept.Sani007 wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:29 pm But if this is only going to be a recut, then why would they need gengas? I know nothing has been officially confirmed, this is just a hypothetical question.
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I’m starting to get it now. This sounds so horrendous that it could very well be true. Damn, if this actually turns out to be real, it’ll be the biggest disappointment of the franchise for me.JulieYBM wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:36 pmAssuming that that sheet is part of said project, they're likely creating a few new cuts, too. Compilation films do it, so it's hardly a new concept.Sani007 wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:29 pm But if this is only going to be a recut, then why would they need gengas? I know nothing has been officially confirmed, this is just a hypothetical question.
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Never say that I'm not an optimist: if this project is real, the fact that they're outright creating new animation cuts is at least a step up from Dragon Ball Kai lolSani007 wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:41 pmI’m starting to get it now. This sounds so horrendous that it could very well be true. Damn, if this actually turns out to be real, it’ll be the biggest disappointment of the franchise for me.JulieYBM wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:36 pmAssuming that that sheet is part of said project, they're likely creating a few new cuts, too. Compilation films do it, so it's hardly a new concept.Sani007 wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:29 pm But if this is only going to be a recut, then why would they need gengas? I know nothing has been officially confirmed, this is just a hypothetical question.
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Yeah, with Yamamuro...JulieYBM wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:53 pm Never say that I'm not an optimist: if this project is real, the fact that they're outright creating new animation cuts is at least a step up from Dragon Ball Kai lol
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Fun fact: The first episode of the Tournament of Destroyers saga, and thus the first episode of Original Super as a whole, aired on January 24th, 2016. Exactly 10 years before this upcoming announcement.
I think it's an interesting bit of trivia... it could mean absolutely nothing, of course. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think it's an interesting bit of trivia... it could mean absolutely nothing, of course. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Yeah, that definitely sucks, especially if he's personally correcting all of the key animation, assuming this is a real project that is happening.


