Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[mecha3000]

A major reason to adapt Moro and Granolah into anime is that all characters and appearances from those arcs won't be available in side products (all video games, figurines...) otherwise. It would be a waste to keep them "locked" to manga pages and Toyotaro promo artworks for the Jump magazines only.

This situation alone requires to adapt those arcs and finally unlock all of their content for the various products, giving all the more possibilities to get money from customers.

Plus, with Toriyama gone, I'm pretty sure the rightholders are not like "yeepee, we're free to invent what we want, go for whole new stories right now!" but more like stressed to venture into an open area without the author's "safety rails" to tell people "this is Toriyama approved". They will probably double down on anything that has been created, assisted or approved by Toriyama as much as possible for a while : a Remaster or new edit, a remake, an adaptation of the last arcs he contributed to or for which he gave his seal of approval (Moro, Granola, high school for Goten and Trunks), an adaptation of Jaco, etc.

That's what I think anyway, but I could be wrong.

I pretty much agree with everything you're saying. With Toriyama gone, there is definitely hesitancy from the fans and official companies to make new Dragon Ball without him. That's definitely part of the reason why things have been so quiet since Toriyama's passing and Daima. So, a Dragon Ball Super anime remake allows them to have their cake and eat it too. They'll have nine arcs to adapt: Battle of Gods, Resurrection 'F', Universe 6, Future Trunks, Tournament of Power, Broly, Moro, Granolah, and Super Hero (all arcs Toriyama had somewhat of a hand in). And remaking DBS gives them more time until the Moro and Granolah arcs would be adapted, delaying the eventual "Oh, shit. Time for us to make new DB. Hope the fans like it" moment. It also gives time for fans to warm up to the idea of DB eventually being told by someone that's not Toriyama.

As for the Jaco manga, I second that. I was always annoyed that they never adapted the Jaco manga into anime form. I mean, we got that Copy Vegeta bs but not JACO'S ORIGIN, a character who literally appears throughout DBS?!!! And I always felt it could've easily been an episode where Goten and Trunks ask Jaco about his life and how he met Bulma, leading to an accurate retelling of the Jaco manga as a DBS episode. And then, when he finishes the story, he's annoyed Goten and Trunks fell asleep during it.

Here's hoping if we do get a remake, they adapt the Jaco manga since again, with Toriyama gone and unable to provide new material anymore, they might as well make this possible remake chock full of everything Toriyama did contribute to new Dragon Ball. Just like DBS: Broly adapted DB Minus pretty much word-for-word, a DBS remake should adapt the Jaco manga word-for-word, especially since Tights herself also appears in the DBS anime (and manga, I think).

Also, Ultra Ego Vegeta and Black Freeza are too cool of forms to keep exclusive to the manga.

[SupremeKai25]

Okay, so what? The anime can just change the Moro and Granola arcs to better fit the continuity of the 2015 animated series.

If they change the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit a continuity that's flawed and low quality, just dont do it lol.

What makes the continuity flawed? Furthermore, the process of adaption means changing elements of a work to fit the new medium and format selected. This has been a factor of all art for the length of history. Tweaking the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit better with the continuity of the 2015 animated series is not some unthinkable thing, especially if additional changes are made to make those arcs better.

This.

I don't know why it's the anime that has to be "tweaked". From what I have read on this thread, I do not see anything from the Moro and Granolah arc that is utterly incompatible with the anime version. Just tiny details that the general audience doesn't care about.

So what if Goku got mad against Jiren in Ultra Instinct? This stuff about "True Ultra Instinct", "Ultra Instinct doesn't use emotions" seem like minor details.

But if it's really such a deal-breaker... then the original manga arcs can simply be tweaked a little to remove those tiny bits that might clash with the anime rendition of Ultra Instict.

Also, back when the Granolah saga was being made, I distinctly remember that the "True Ultra Instinct" section of the arc was pretty controversial on this forum... it was criticized as the section where the arc "fell off" and became boring.

Would anyone really be mad if this "True Ultra Instinct" stuff was removed? I don't recall it being so important anyway since it was Black Freezer who ended the conflict. And I certainly don't consider this an important "contradiction" of the anime.

[shadd21]

Can someone give a tl;dr on all the rumors?

I'm trying to find where everyone is getting the idea that leaked(?) image is for a remaster and not from a remake, or recap for a new series.

Also wasn't it mentioned somewhere the the rumored show is going to be seasonal instead of on-going like og DBS?

[miguelnuva1]

If they change the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit a continuity that's flawed and low quality, just dont do it lol.

What makes the continuity flawed? Furthermore, the process of adaption means changing elements of a work to fit the new medium and format selected. This has been a factor of all art for the length of history. Tweaking the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit better with the continuity of the 2015 animated series is not some unthinkable thing, especially if additional changes are made to make those arcs better.

This.

I don't know why it's the anime that has to be "tweaked". From what I have read on this thread, I do not see anything from the Moro and Granolah arc that is utterly incompatible with the anime version. Just tiny details that the general audience doesn't care about.

So what if Goku got mad against Jiren in Ultra Instinct? This stuff about "True Ultra Instinct", "Ultra Instinct doesn't use emotions" seem like minor details.

But if it's really such a deal-breaker... then the original manga arcs can simply be tweaked a little to remove those tiny bits that might clash with the anime rendition of Ultra Instict.

Also, back when the Granolah saga was being made, I distinctly remember that the "True Ultra Instinct" section of the arc was pretty controversial on this forum... it was criticized as the section where the arc "fell off" and became boring.

Would anyone really be mad if this "True Ultra Instinct" stuff was removed? I don't recall it being so important anyway since it was Black Freezer who ended the conflict. And I certainly don't consider this an important "contradiction" of the anime.

Goku getting angry at Jiren isn't even a problem because Goku can use his emotions in UI it just made the form less impressive.

Goku drops out if UI seconds after getting mad at Jiren.

True UI as mentioned allows him to use emotion but the other UI forms don't block emotion, they just function best when Goku doesn't drawn on emotion.

[Peach]

There are many things that are not "slightly different".

Goku being angry against Jiren in the TOP while using UI when in Moro Arc he has to make his mind all empty to achieve that state, and in the Granolah Arc he uses his emotions and UI to make a new transformation completely different, Toppo in the anime uses a transformation that it's just too similar to Ultra Ego while not having the same concepts of this transformation, Blue Kaioken is not reference one single time because instead we have Perfect SSB, and so we go.

Okay, so what? The anime can just change the Moro and Granola arcs to better fit the continuity of the 2015 animated series.

If they change the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit a continuity that's flawed and low quality, just dont do it lol.

I think the manga is airy and leaves a lot to be desired. Because it was monthly, they always had to keep the plot moving basically. They glossed over Tien and Chaiotzu's fights with Moro's henchmen. Roshi also didn't get a heartfelt spotlight in the manga during the Tournament of Power like he did in the anime.

[Xeogran]

Making it best of both worlds would be great. Adapt manga pages but add some tweaks too, like having Goku actually fight Goku Black for a while.

[funrush]

Okay, so what? The anime can just change the Moro and Granola arcs to better fit the continuity of the 2015 animated series.

If they change the Moro and Granolah arcs to fit a continuity that's flawed and low quality, just dont do it lol.

I think the manga is airy and leaves a lot to be desired. Because it was monthly, they always had to keep the plot moving basically. They glossed over Tien and Chaiotzu's fights with Moro's henchmen. Roshi also didn't get a heartfelt spotlight in the manga during the Tournament of Power like he did in the anime.

I always got the impression that the manga was basically created to be an advertisement for the anime and that's why the early arcs were super rushed and RoF was skipped entirely, they were trying to catch up to the show. The Moro arc is when the manga really starts to be an actual series with its own story instead of just quickly recapping the anime. I guess that means for a remake they should probably prioritize the original DBS anime's continuity over the manga's, but if there's plotpoints in Moro/Granolah that depend on changes made in the earlier arcs they can always adjust things.

Even though Moro and Granolah didn't feel rushed imo, they still are pretty fast paced and I would love to see what kinda things they would choose to expand on in an anime adaptation, like the fight with Moro's henchmen like you mentioned. I think it would be fun to see more of Yardrat.

[GurixDr34]

I dont know why but i think there will be a new movie lets see what they have to offer I'm really looking forward to this event

[The Dark Knight]

I dont know why but i think there will be a new movie lets see what they have to offer I'm really looking forward to this event

We've been getting a new movie every 2-4 years, so it's definitely likely due to it being over 3 years since Superhero released. Then again, a One Piece movie is currently in-production, so we might have to wait longer than expected for the next Dragon Ball one.

[Mister_Popo]

Above all, there is one thing we really should have learned since 2019: Super will return when it returns, and that’s that. Rumors remain just that—rumors—and they are unreliable until they are confirmed by an official announcement. Because of that, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high, nor would I treat Super’s return as a given anytime soon. Otherwise, you might end up going home empty-handed.

But let’s, for a moment, hypothetically assume that it does return.

At the moment, we’re dealing with three different versions of the same continuity, each effectively stuck at a different point in the timeline. On top of that, the manga, films, and anime all introduce transformations and events that either don’t exist (yet) in the other versions or play out in completely different ways. Not everyone is a hardcore fan who reads the manga, so for people who only follow the anime and stopped after the Tournament of Power, the story has become incredibly confusing.

If the goal were to turn all this mess back into one coherent whole and get everyone back on the same page from the start, a full anime remake that faithfully adapts the manga could make sense. It would also be an opportunity to modernize and clean up the animation.

That said, purely from a storytelling perspective, there is still a lot of debate within the fandom about which version of events actually works best: the manga or the anime. Take the Tournament of Power as an example. Goku learning Ultra Instinct Omen from Master Roshi—a technique that most gods can’t even use—makes very little sense. It’s far more believable to assume that Goku simply broke his limits in order to survive Jiren’s reflected Spirit Bomb. On the other hand, the manga also contains genuinely excellent material that remains exclusive to it and would be amazing to see animated, such as the battle between the Gods of Destruction or Mastered SSJB Vegeta fighting Beerus.

That brings me to another question: do we really want a third animated version of Battle of Gods? Would we honestly be excited to sit through large chunks of content that aren’t new at all, just another retelling of things we’ve already seen multiple times? While I didn’t mind the anime retellings of Battle of Gods and Resurrection ‘F’ back in 2015, a third version now would feel like overkill.

What I personally see as the most rational approach would be this: start Super 2.0 with a retelling of Broly, using a single, consistent art style, and then carry that style forward into the Moro, Granolah, and Super Hero arcs. Toriyama originally wrote much more material for the Broly movie than could fit within its runtime, so this would be a perfect opportunity to reintroduce that cut content. It would also serve as a soft reset at a familiar point in the story, while allowing for additional Saiyan backstory.

I also wouldn’t mind if certain anime-only elements—such as Goku’s Blue Kaioken or Vegeta’s Super Saiyan Blue Evolution—were dropped entirely in order to make the manga and anime more coherent going forward. A full, start-to-finish re-adaptation of the manga doesn’t feel strictly necessary. What matters most is aligning the future of the franchise in a way that makes sense for both longtime fans and more casual viewers.

[JulieYBM]

What's the confusing part? People who don't follow the comic aren't going to be confused...because they aren't reading the comic. The 2015 television series transitions clearly to the two films released since then.

[taikufuru]

Any excitement I had about the franchise holders handling a new Dragon Ball TV series was completely exhausted with Dragon Ball DAIMA. It was a short story: only 20 episodes, with about three years of production. Still, the package gets tangled up and turns the two halves of the series into something practically antagonistic. The result is a schizophrenic work.

I prefer Dragon Ball to be treated as a 90-minute movie franchise, released every three or four years. This format is more focused, avoids unnecessary detours, and generally shifts attention to building the antagonist, instead of insisting on the perspective of characters whose arc has been concluded for decades. That's what they've gotten right most in the last 12 years.

I also can't understand why so many people seem so excited about yet another retelling of this same story in Dragon Ball Super. Wow: now the Future Trunks arc will have "amazing DAIMA style animation ," but it will still carry that dreadful ending that covers the character's trajectory — after all, that's in the drafts of the mighty Akira Toriyama and they're not going to change it.

And then comes the discourse that now there's a chance to "fix the canon". Yay: put Goku in Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus because that will now be consistent, even if he ends up being defeated anyway, since that's the whole point of that story.

I have the feeling that some fans live in a permanent state of withdrawal from the franchise, as if they need Dragon Ball at any cost, without stopping to reflect on how harmful this continuous insistence can ultimately be.

[JulieYBM]

Any excitement I had about the franchise holders handling a new Dragon Ball TV series was completely exhausted with Dragon Ball DAIMA. It was a short story: only 20 episodes, with about three years of production. Still, the package gets tangled up and turns the two halves of the series into something practically antagonistic. The result is a schizophrenic work.

I prefer Dragon Ball to be treated as a 90-minute movie franchise, released every three or four years. This format is more focused, avoids unnecessary detours, and generally shifts attention to building the antagonist, instead of insisting on the perspective of characters whose arc has been concluded for decades. That's what they've gotten right most in the last 12 years.

Twenty episodes is still quite long, especially for a series that barely makes use of that runtime to flesh out its characters and their character arcs. Those eight hours of runtime should have been far more densely-packed with character development than they were and that's why the series falls so flat. Furthermore, the additional production time is not a bad thing here, so I'm not sure what you're mentioning it like it is.

I also can't understand why so many people seem so excited about yet another retelling of this same story in Dragon Ball Super. Wow: now the Future Trunks arc will have "amazing DAIMA style animation ," but it will still carry that dreadful ending that covers the character's trajectory — after all, that's in the drafts of the mighty Akira Toriyama and they're not going to change it.

I think it's pretty clear that the basic idea of anyone looking forward to another telling of said arc is rooted in an interest in seeing if the production team is allowed to make changes to the story to create a better project. I mean, there's three options here.

1. Optimism that something good will be made.
2. Not posting at all and doing something better with our times.
3. Being an annoying fucker and dooming and glooming endlessly instead of just logging off and doing something fun (this is the one where I want to be taken out back and beaten senseless if I start doing this).

And then comes the discourse that now there's a chance to "fix the canon". Yay: put Goku in Super Saiyan 4 against Beerus because that will now be consistent, even if he ends up being defeated anyway, since that's the whole point of that story.

I have the feeling that some fans live in a permanent state of withdrawal from the franchise, as if they need Dragon Ball at any cost, without stopping to reflect on how harmful this continuous insistence can ultimately be.

All nerds should log off and get lives.

[taikufuru]

Regarding the production timeline, I meant that they had all the conditions to deliver something consistent and well-planned. Look, they wouldn't have to do something like Dragon Ball Z or Dragon Ball Super, that they need to have 100 episodes, different arcs, and everything else.

Dragon Ball DAIMA is more of a story arc than a series like the others. It's like Dragon Ball Super is just the Champa arc, you know?

They are only concerned with this independent story of a beginning, middle, and end. And even so, they couldn't deliver or justify that 20-episode run, which could easily be reduced by half because they can't, in fact, conceive of that story without contradicting Akira Toriyama or their sponsors. They are simply filling in gaps in the notes of Akira Toriyama, who is a comic book artist with a writing method heavily based on illustration, which doesn't translate to audiovisual media.

[The Dark Knight]

Regarding the production timeline, I meant that they had all the conditions to deliver something consistent and well-planned. Look, they wouldn't have to do something like Dragon Ball Z or Dragon Ball Super, that they need to have 100 episodes, different arcs, and everything else.

Dragon Ball DAIMA is more of a story arc than a series like the others. It's like Dragon Ball Super is just the Champa arc, you know?

They are only concerned with this independent story of a beginning, middle, and end. And even so, they couldn't deliver or justify that 20-episode run, which could easily be reduced by half because they can't, in fact, conceive of that story without contradicting Akira Toriyama or their sponsors. They are simply filling in gaps in the notes of Akira Toriyama, who is a comic book artist with a writing method heavily based on illustration, which doesn't translate to audiovisual media.

Daima's story was developed as an adventure, yet when compared to arcs like Pilaf and Red Ribbon Army, it's severely lacking. The Pilaf arc for example introduced more characters and took us to more locations than Daima did, and it did so with nearly half the episode count. Like all arcs we've gotten since the Buu arc, Daima struggled to deliver a story that lived up to its potential. Daima, Super, & GT all have the same problem: great ideas, questionable execution.

[JulieYBM]

Regarding the production timeline, I meant that they had all the conditions to deliver something consistent and well-planned. Look, they wouldn't have to do something like Dragon Ball Z or Dragon Ball Super, that they need to have 100 episodes, different arcs, and everything else.

Dragon Ball DAIMA is more of a story arc than a series like the others. It's like Dragon Ball Super is just the Champa arc, you know?

They are only concerned with this independent story of a beginning, middle, and end. And even so, they couldn't deliver or justify that 20-episode run, which could easily be reduced by half because they can't, in fact, conceive of that story without contradicting Akira Toriyama or their sponsors. They are simply filling in gaps in the notes of Akira Toriyama, who is a comic book artist with a writing method heavily based on illustration, which doesn't translate to audiovisual media.

I mean, yeah. You can have three years to produce anything and it doesn't necessarily mean the project will be good, it simply increases the odds of it being good. We need more extended production schedules like this for all anime. My mind is still boggled that Dragon Quest: Dai no Dai-Bouken (2020) had twenty-four finished episodes before it began airing, that should be a gold standard.

Dragon Ball Z doesn't need a hundred episodes. If they write scripts more intelligently than Toriyama, those arcs could be adapted in far fewer episodes lol.

Like, yeah, Daima sucks. It's a small story that isn't properly fleshed out to justify twenty episodes, let alone ten episodes. We can either be optimistic about the future projects being better or we can be annoying on the internet instead of doing something more fun with our times. I myself, personally, remain optimistic, because I have nothing to lose from it and only things to gain from hoping that the creative people that I enjoy the work of will have the conditions to create work that they are proud of. I think more people should have this approach, because there's nothing to lose.

[Mister_Popo]

What's the confusing part? People who don't follow the comic aren't going to be confused...because they aren't reading the comic. The 2015 television series transitions clearly to the two films released since then.

If they were to make a new film now, following Super Hero, in which Goku and Vegeta can already access Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego as their default forms, a significant part of the story would be missing for viewers who don’t read the manga. The context behind these newly acquired transformations would simply not be there. Even if it isn’t confusing yet, it will become confusing if the movie continuity continues to move further ahead without providing additional context. That is mainly what I was trying to say.

Starting directly with the Moro arc—without even a brief recap of the events of Broly—could also be 'desorientating' for anime/movie-only viewers who assume the story continues naturally after Super Hero. The Broly mini-arc serves as a clear and familiar point of reference for both anime/movie-only fans and those who follow everything.

Without making any promises, I honestly think there has never been a more sensible moment than now to bring the anime back.

[JulieYBM]

What's the confusing part? People who don't follow the comic aren't going to be confused...because they aren't reading the comic. The 2015 television series transitions clearly to the two films released since then.

If they were to make a new film now, following Super Hero, in which Goku and Vegeta can already access Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego as their default forms, a significant part of the story would be missing for viewers who don’t read the manga. The context behind these newly acquired transformations would simply not be there. Even if it isn’t confusing yet, it will become confusing if the movie continuity continues to move further ahead without providing additional context. That is mainly what I was trying to say.

Starting directly with the Moro arc—without even a brief recap of the events of Broly—could also be 'desorientating' for anime/movie-only viewers who assume the story continues naturally after Super Hero. The Broly mini-arc serves as a clear and familiar point of reference for both anime/movie-only fans and those who follow everything.

Without making any promises, I honestly think there has never been a more sensible moment than now to bring the anime back.

But they won't go without showing the origins of Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego? Or if they do, they'll explain those forms within the film in a manner that does not necessitate needing to read the manga, that's part of making a good film. If the films continue to move ahead past the Super Hero arc, they are going to have an entire team of people working on them to ask questions like, "What are we going to include in the film?"

The next film or television series is going to do what all of them do: begin with a recap of the story so far. Dragon Ball Super (2015) did it, Dragon Ball Super: Broly did it, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero did it and Dragon Ball Daima did it. The next television series—whether it starts with an expanded retelling of the Broly arc or begins right with the Moro arc—is going to start with a recap to contextualize the story for the audience.

[Mister_Popo]

What's the confusing part? People who don't follow the comic aren't going to be confused...because they aren't reading the comic. The 2015 television series transitions clearly to the two films released since then.

If they were to make a new film now, following Super Hero, in which Goku and Vegeta can already access Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego as their default forms, a significant part of the story would be missing for viewers who don’t read the manga. The context behind these newly acquired transformations would simply not be there. Even if it isn’t confusing yet, it will become confusing if the movie continuity continues to move further ahead without providing additional context. That is mainly what I was trying to say.

Starting directly with the Moro arc—without even a brief recap of the events of Broly—could also be 'desorientating' for anime/movie-only viewers who assume the story continues naturally after Super Hero. The Broly mini-arc serves as a clear and familiar point of reference for both anime/movie-only fans and those who follow everything.

Without making any promises, I honestly think there has never been a more sensible moment than now to bring the anime back.

But they won't go without showing the origins of Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego? Or if they do, they'll explain those forms within the film in a manner that does not necessitate needing to read the manga, that's part of making a good film. If the films continue to move ahead past the Super Hero arc, they are going to have an entire team of people working on them to ask questions like, "What are we going to include in the film?"

The next film or television series is going to do what all of them do: begin with a recap of the story so far. Dragon Ball Super (2015) did it, Dragon Ball Super: Broly did it, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero did it and Dragon Ball Daima did it. The next television series—whether it starts with an expanded retelling of the Broly arc or begins right with the Moro arc—is going to start with a recap to contextualize the story for the audience.

If they were to do that—revealing the origin of Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego through exposition or a short flashback in a movie—it would, in my view, take away much of the tension and narrative weight of the Moro and Granolah arcs in a potential future anime IMHO. At least for those who don't read the manga.

[JulieYBM]

If they were to make a new film now, following Super Hero, in which Goku and Vegeta can already access Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego as their default forms, a significant part of the story would be missing for viewers who don’t read the manga. The context behind these newly acquired transformations would simply not be there. Even if it isn’t confusing yet, it will become confusing if the movie continuity continues to move further ahead without providing additional context. That is mainly what I was trying to say.

Starting directly with the Moro arc—without even a brief recap of the events of Broly—could also be 'desorientating' for anime/movie-only viewers who assume the story continues naturally after Super Hero. The Broly mini-arc serves as a clear and familiar point of reference for both anime/movie-only fans and those who follow everything.

Without making any promises, I honestly think there has never been a more sensible moment than now to bring the anime back.

But they won't go without showing the origins of Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego? Or if they do, they'll explain those forms within the film in a manner that does not necessitate needing to read the manga, that's part of making a good film. If the films continue to move ahead past the Super Hero arc, they are going to have an entire team of people working on them to ask questions like, "What are we going to include in the film?"

The next film or television series is going to do what all of them do: begin with a recap of the story so far. Dragon Ball Super (2015) did it, Dragon Ball Super: Broly did it, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero did it and Dragon Ball Daima did it. The next television series—whether it starts with an expanded retelling of the Broly arc or begins right with the Moro arc—is going to start with a recap to contextualize the story for the audience.

If they were to do that—revealing the origin of Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego through exposition or a short flashback in a movie—it would, in my view, take away much of the tension and narrative weight of the Moro and Granolah arcs in a potential future anime IMHO. At least for those who don't read the manga.

The question of whether Gokuu and Vegeta achieve those forms is already answered, though. The strength of a story lies in being well-told. If I, someone who has ready those comic arcs, can't get swept up in eventual animated adaptions of them because I have previously read the comic, that's a flaw of the adaption of those arcs, not the fact that some other project explained something for its own narrative.