Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[SupremeKai25]

Wow: now the Future Trunks arc will have "amazing DAIMA style animation ," but it will still carry that dreadful ending that covers the character's trajectory — after all, that's in the drafts of the mighty Akira Toriyama and they're not going to change it.

No problem! The ending of the Future Trunks saga was awesome and completely in line with what Trunks deserved after years of time travel abuse.

EDIT - It goes without saying that a "remaster" of Super should preserve the original plot points that came from Toriyama. So, a remaster of Super should still have Infinite Zamasu, or Android 17 winning the Tournament of Power, or Zamasu stealing Goku's body (and not Gohan or Goten), and so on.

[taikufuru]

I don't think it necessarily should be done. Is the idea good? Great, keep it. If it's bad, think of something better. I think it's very detrimental to try to build a story from scraps of paper without any sense of progression. Even in DAIMA, which reportedly involved writing more detailed drafts compared to the word "vague" that refers to his drafts for Super. In the Tournament of Power, Toriyama did to handle this tournament was provide a list of the enemies Universe 7 will face and how to eliminate each one. Imagine having several cool ideas, but not being able to, say, have Piccolo eliminated in a more interesting way because the draft says he needs to fall to a tiny insect, even though Piccolo is an ideal person to notice the insect's tiny offspring because of his keen hearing.

[SupremeKai25]

I don't think it necessarily should be done. Is the idea good? Great, keep it. If it's bad, think of something better. I think it's very detrimental to try to build a story from scraps of paper without any sense of progression. Even in DAIMA, which reportedly involved writing more detailed drafts compared to the word "vague" that refers to his drafts for Super. In the Tournament of Power, Toriyama did to handle this tournament was provide a list of the enemies Universe 7 will face and how to eliminate each one. Imagine having several cool ideas, but not being able to, say, have Piccolo eliminated in a more interesting way because the draft says he needs to fall to a tiny insect, even though Piccolo is an ideal person to notice the insect's tiny offspring because of his keen hearing.

I was talking more about the major, overarching plot points like Freeza being the tenth member or Android 17 being the winner. These plot points are too important to be changed without overhauling the entire arc, which is not the purpose of a remaster.

You can't, for example, make a version of Super where Cell is recruited instead of Freeza, or Jiren is the winner instead of 17. Or you could, I suppose, but not in a Remaster.

Stuff like Piccolo losing to a bug - yeah, whatever, change it. It's not that important. Give him a better fight against a better opponent if you like Piccolo. These things are minor details that don't matter that much.

[taikufuru]

I think you misunderstood what I said. I was specifically talking about Toriyama's drafts, responding to your comment about something that belongs to Toriyama and cannot be changed. As I previously mentioned, there's an example of a larger plot point involving the end of the Future Trunks arc, which, incidentally, has little influence on the following arc. The difference is that there are two Zenos now, but there could have been just one. I wouldn't radically change anything in that story.

I wasn't even talking about a remaster/remake, because I've already reiterated that I'm not interested in that.

I used Piccolo as an example because it's something minor that's in Toriyama's drafts, something that, according to your suggestion, should be preserved because Toriyama did it that way.

I find it frustrating to ask professional screenwriters to tie together things from someone who wrote notes on a napkin without the intention of developing that story themselves.

I just reiterate what I said: if it's good, preserve it; if it's bad, discard it. This isn't about a remake of Dragon Ball Super, but about Dragon Ball from now on.

[JulieYBM]

The series director and writer should absolutely be involved in actually developing the plot. The fact that the bet parts of Dragon Ball Super (2015 animated series) were those clearly developed by the people other than Toriyama goes to show how much better it is to leave creative freedom in the hands of them.

I'm a massive broken record, of course, but for the love of god, just let Tomioka Atsuhiro develop the next series and film's plot alongside the director lol

[SupremeKai25]

I just reiterate what I said: if it's good, preserve it; if it's bad, discard it. This isn't about a remake of Dragon Ball Super, but about Dragon Ball from now on.

The ending of the Future Trunks saga is good, though, and much better than another generic Disney Fairy-Tale ending where the protagonists wish everyone back to life and live happily ever after, like in literally any other arc besides the Future Trunks.

In your original post you dismissed a Remaster because it would still have the Future Trunks saga ending and you don't like it. I pointed out that not only there's people who like it but the core of the saga shouldn't be changed, because that's the story Toriyama wanted to tell.

The point of a "Remaster" is not to rewrite what you disliked. It's to pay homage to the original product while improving the animation and artwork. If you want to overhaul the story arcs because you don't like them, then you're doing a "Remake" more than a "Remaster", and this goes for videogames too. So, of course, a Super "remaster" will keep the overarching plot points as they are and as Toriyama planned them.

Also can you quote me so I get the ping? Ty!

[Artorias]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

I don't really care about seeing the Moro and Granola arcs animated, but if you must do it, you don't need to go back and redo everything else leading up to them. Just start a new show, Super Duper, or whatever you want to call it, and begin with those two retellings (similar to how the original Super started with remakes of BoG and RoF). And then continue on from there. Let the 2015 Super anime exist in all it's broken glory in the past and move on. Please.

In your original post you dismissed a Remaster because it would still have the Future Trunks saga ending and you don't like it. I pointed out that not only there's people who like it but the core of the saga shouldn't be changed, because that's the story Toriyama wanted to tell.

Maybe this is considered sacrilege to many, but I don't get this argument. First, Toriyama from what I understand kept much of his outlining of the Super plotlines pretty vague, so there would be plenty of room to make big adjustments if needed. But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits? The writing isn't magically good just because Toriyama wrote it. The man was completely capable of writing some stinkers. I don't think it should be against the rules to go back and adjust the things he had a hand in making simply on the basis that he wrote it. And if you do think it IS off-limits, then my counter to that would be fine, then don't go back and touch it up at all. If you're going to return to the well and remake/remaster something, then go all the way. I have no interest in them touching something up that was as flawed as Super if they're not going to actual go in with a scalpel and fix the things that need to be fixed. It's just a giant waste of resources and time at that point.

[JulieYBM]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

I don't really care about seeing the Moro and Granola arcs animated, but if you must do it, you don't need to go back and redo everything else leading up to them. Just start a new show, Super Duper, or whatever you want to call it, and begin with those two retellings (similar to how the original Super started with remakes of BoG and RoF). And then continue on from there. Let the 2015 Super anime exist in all it's broken glory in the past and move on. Please.

In your original post you dismissed a Remaster because it would still have the Future Trunks saga ending and you don't like it. I pointed out that not only there's people who like it but the core of the saga shouldn't be changed, because that's the story Toriyama wanted to tell.

Maybe this is considered sacrilege to many, but I don't get this argument. First, Toriyama from what I understand kept much of his outlining of the Super plotlines pretty vague, so there would be plenty of room to make big adjustments if needed. But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits? The writing isn't magically good just because Toriyama wrote it. The man was completely capable of writing some stinkers. I don't think it should be against the rules to go back and adjust the things he had a hand in making simply on the basis that he wrote it. And if you do think it IS off-limits, then my counter to that would be fine, then don't go back and touch it up at all. If you're going to return to the well and remake/remaster something, then go all the way. I have no interest in them touching something up that was as flawed as Super if they're not going to actual go in with a scalpel and fix the things that need to be fixed. It's just a giant waste of resources and time at that point.

Lol there's nothing to lose in just having a little optimism. If the impossible task of a second animated adaption occurs, one might as well shrug and imagine that good things are possible and the staff are allowed to make better writing decisions.

The weird posulating people keep doing over this is getting ridiculous. You're jumping into a nuclear bunker just to dodge a paper airplace hitting you in the shoulder when all you have to do is step aside or grab it out of the air.

[Artorias]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

I don't really care about seeing the Moro and Granola arcs animated, but if you must do it, you don't need to go back and redo everything else leading up to them. Just start a new show, Super Duper, or whatever you want to call it, and begin with those two retellings (similar to how the original Super started with remakes of BoG and RoF). And then continue on from there. Let the 2015 Super anime exist in all it's broken glory in the past and move on. Please.

In your original post you dismissed a Remaster because it would still have the Future Trunks saga ending and you don't like it. I pointed out that not only there's people who like it but the core of the saga shouldn't be changed, because that's the story Toriyama wanted to tell.

Maybe this is considered sacrilege to many, but I don't get this argument. First, Toriyama from what I understand kept much of his outlining of the Super plotlines pretty vague, so there would be plenty of room to make big adjustments if needed. But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits? The writing isn't magically good just because Toriyama wrote it. The man was completely capable of writing some stinkers. I don't think it should be against the rules to go back and adjust the things he had a hand in making simply on the basis that he wrote it. And if you do think it IS off-limits, then my counter to that would be fine, then don't go back and touch it up at all. If you're going to return to the well and remake/remaster something, then go all the way. I have no interest in them touching something up that was as flawed as Super if they're not going to actual go in with a scalpel and fix the things that need to be fixed. It's just a giant waste of resources and time at that point.

Lol there's nothing to lose in just having a little optimism. If the impossible task of a second animated adaption occurs, one might as well shrug and imagine that good things are possible and the staff are allowed to make better writing decisions.

The weird posulating people keep doing over this is getting ridiculous. You're jumping into a nuclear bunker just to dodge a paper airplace hitting you in the shoulder when all you have to do is step aside or grab it out of the air.

In a vacuum, this would be a perfectly fine sentiment. The thing is, the franchise hasn't given me much to be optimistic about over the past decade. There's a point where "optimism" just becomes irrational to me. I believe I'm being perfectly realistic and reasonable with my assumptions here. I don't think Toei have earned my faith, so I don't know why I'd be sitting here hoping for something I'm nearly positive isn't going to happen.

[JulieYBM]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

I don't really care about seeing the Moro and Granola arcs animated, but if you must do it, you don't need to go back and redo everything else leading up to them. Just start a new show, Super Duper, or whatever you want to call it, and begin with those two retellings (similar to how the original Super started with remakes of BoG and RoF). And then continue on from there. Let the 2015 Super anime exist in all it's broken glory in the past and move on. Please.



Maybe this is considered sacrilege to many, but I don't get this argument. First, Toriyama from what I understand kept much of his outlining of the Super plotlines pretty vague, so there would be plenty of room to make big adjustments if needed. But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits? The writing isn't magically good just because Toriyama wrote it. The man was completely capable of writing some stinkers. I don't think it should be against the rules to go back and adjust the things he had a hand in making simply on the basis that he wrote it. And if you do think it IS off-limits, then my counter to that would be fine, then don't go back and touch it up at all. If you're going to return to the well and remake/remaster something, then go all the way. I have no interest in them touching something up that was as flawed as Super if they're not going to actual go in with a scalpel and fix the things that need to be fixed. It's just a giant waste of resources and time at that point.

Lol there's nothing to lose in just having a little optimism. If the impossible task of a second animated adaption occurs, one might as well shrug and imagine that good things are possible and the staff are allowed to make better writing decisions.

The weird posulating people keep doing over this is getting ridiculous. You're jumping into a nuclear bunker just to dodge a paper airplace hitting you in the shoulder when all you have to do is step aside or grab it out of the air.

In a vacuum, this would be a perfectly fine sentiment. The thing is, the franchise hasn't given me much to be optimistic about over the past decade. There's a point where "optimism" just becomes irrational to me. I believe I'm being perfectly realistic and reasonable with my assumptions here. I don't think Toei have earned my faith, so I don't know why I'd be sitting here hoping for something I'm nearly positive isn't going to happen.

It's ridiculous enough to imagine them doing another take on these arcs, it's hardly an iasue to go a step further and just imagine them doing so again, but better. Do you really want to spend your time making the argument that not only will they do another animated take on Dragon Ball Super, but said take will be poorly written?

I don't really see how difficult it is to imagine anyone having the slightest bit of imagination here, especially considering how the Tournament of Power's first fifteen-plus episodes are even better written than a lot of the original 1984 comic series.

[The Dark Knight]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super.

What they're rumored to be doing isn't a proper remake, but rather a touch up of the existing show. Imagine what they did for the home release in terms of correcting some of the really bad frames, this is that, just on a larger scale. It's also rumored to be a condensed version of it, removing episodes and scenes that didn't add to the overall narrative, kind of like what Kai did.

What you think of Super will likely determine what you think of this. If you're someone who likes Super, then chances are you'll like this as well, as it's more of the same. If you hated Super, then you probably won't care for this, as it's just less of what you already don't like. If you're somewhere in the middle where you didn't like Super, but didn't hate it either, then it probably depends on how this turns out.

[SupremeKai25]

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

Let me preface by making it clear that I think these "leaks" are fake and the animated product will either be something new or a new movie, but not something related to Old Super. I think these "leaks", while pretty interesting and funny, are fake, and I'm not putting my money on them. I find the "evidence" to be rather weak and flimsy - just one artwork lost in the internet that apparently indicates Yamamuro is working on a new version of Battle of Gods.

I love the Super Era and I love the storylines of Super.

I hate that the Super Anime was undermined by those stupid executives putting insane deadlines on the artists, who couldn't work properly.

So, as someone who loves Super and hates the dumb work conditions that were imposed, I would love to see Super remastered; not only because I like the stories, but also because the artists will finally be able to convey those stories with proper deadlines and, hopefully, a reasonable work ethic.

It doesn't get any deeper than that.

But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits?

Because a Remaster generally (maybe not always, but generally) preserves the original, -OVERARCHING- story intact (no, Piccolo losing to a bug is not important and it can be changed), vs. a Remake that generally overhaules the story entirely.

But let's put it this way: If you think a new Super "remaster" or "remake" or whatever should change the overarching plot of Super, do you think the same about Original Dragon Ball?

Should a remake of Original Dragon Ball change the overarching plot that Toriyama penned in the mid 80s?

[Artorias]

Lol there's nothing to lose in just having a little optimism. If the impossible task of a second animated adaption occurs, one might as well shrug and imagine that good things are possible and the staff are allowed to make better writing decisions.

The weird posulating people keep doing over this is getting ridiculous. You're jumping into a nuclear bunker just to dodge a paper airplace hitting you in the shoulder when all you have to do is step aside or grab it out of the air.

In a vacuum, this would be a perfectly fine sentiment. The thing is, the franchise hasn't given me much to be optimistic about over the past decade. There's a point where "optimism" just becomes irrational to me. I believe I'm being perfectly realistic and reasonable with my assumptions here. I don't think Toei have earned my faith, so I don't know why I'd be sitting here hoping for something I'm nearly positive isn't going to happen.

It's ridiculous enough to imagine them doing another take on these arcs, it's hardly an iasue to go a step further and just imagine them doing so again, but better. Do you really want to spend your time making the argument that not only will they do another animated take on Dragon Ball Super, but said take will be poorly written?

I don't really see how difficult it is to imagine anyone having the slightest bit of imagination here, especially considering how the Tournament of Power's first fifteen-plus episodes are even better written than a lot of the original 1984 comic series.

Yes, I do want to spend my time doing that, because at this point, IF this rumor is true, that seems like the most likely outcome. The idea that Toei is going to make fundamental changes seems totally unlikely in my estimation. So yes, I am putting forth the argument that wasting time reanimating a show many fans didn't even like to begin with is pointless if you aren't going to substantially improve anything with the bungled story. And given that both of their prior remakes, BoG and RoF, were certifiably worse (or at best the same as) their original counterparts, AND the fact that Toei has given me no reason to believe they can write something related to DBS of any real quality, yes I can 100% say I do not want this and think it's a terrible idea.

Just wanted to pop in here and say I don't understand how the collective reaction from everyone in this fandom regarding a potential Super remake isn't immediate rejection and bewilderment. I cannot comprehend why you would want to waste dozens or hundreds of people's time, money, and energy remaking a show that was as fundamentally doomed as Super. That show was not bad because it looked ugly. Yes, that obviously didn't help, but Super is, at it's core, a bad piece of media because the of the WRITING first and foremost. Going back to re-animate everything isn't going to help at all if something isn't done to address the horrific and slipshod writing that plagued the original run, and I highly doubt any meaningful changes will be made on that front. Taking a few points from the manga or cleaning up a few things here and there will not matter. This would require large sweeping changes that I don't see happening. This would just be one of most baffling, wasteful decisions I've ever seen if this comes to pass.

Let me preface by making it clear that I think these "leaks" are fake and the animated product will either be something new or a new movie, but not something related to Old Super. I think these "leaks", while pretty interesting and funny, are fake, and I'm not putting my money on them. I find the "evidence" to be rather weak and flimsy - just one artwork lost in the internet that apparently indicates Yamamuro is working on a new version of Battle of Gods.

I love the Super Era and I love the storylines of Super.

I hate that the Super Anime was undermined by those stupid executives putting insane deadlines on the artists, who couldn't work properly.

So, as someone who loves Super and hates the dumb work conditions that were imposed, I would love to see Super remastered; not only because I like the stories, but also because the artists will finally be able to convey those stories with proper deadlines and, hopefully, a reasonable work ethic.

It doesn't get any deeper than that.

But second, even if he DID write everything himself, why does that automatically mean changing it is off-limits?

Because a Remaster generally (maybe not always, but generally) preserves the original, -OVERARCHING- story intact (no, Piccolo losing to a bug is not important and it can be changed), vs. a Remake that generally overhaules the story entirely.

But let's put it this way: If you think a new Super "remaster" or "remake" or whatever should change the overarching plot of Super, do you think the same about Original Dragon Ball?

Should a remake of Original Dragon Ball change the overarching plot that Toriyama penned in the mid 80s?

Well to answer that last question, my answer is no, for three reasons. First, the original run of Dragon Ball is actually as close to biblical as you can get in modern storytelling, so just on it's face changing that would be far more sacrilegious and uncomfortable. Second, the original manga was Toriyama's baby that was mostly his creation from start to finish, whereas modern DB is more of a collaborative effort amongst many parties, so I would again find it a bit disrespectful and weird to change the renowned, nearly solo work of a dead man. And third, and this one is purely opinion so you may disagree, but the original Dragon Ball to me and many others is an actually good piece of media that doesn't need much changing to begin with. I find Super to be a genuinely terrible show for the most part, so I'm far less bothered at the prospect of altering it.

And yes, what I'm advocating for essentially is that I don't want them to go back to Super at all, but IF they insist on it, I would want them to actually make substantial changes to the story. I respect that you like it so you wouldn't want this, but as someone that finds it totally lacking in several areas, that would at least lesson the blow of having to sit around and experience the same story again for years on end.

[taikufuru]

I just reiterate what I said: if it's good, preserve it; if it's bad, discard it. This isn't about a remake of Dragon Ball Super, but about Dragon Ball from now on.

The ending of the Future Trunks saga is good, though, and much better than another generic Disney Fairy-Tale ending where the protagonists wish everyone back to life and live happily ever after, like in literally any other arc besides the Future Trunks.

In your original post you dismissed a Remaster because it would still have the Future Trunks saga ending and you don't like it. I pointed out that not only there's people who like it but the core of the saga shouldn't be changed, because that's the story Toriyama wanted to tell.

The point of a "Remaster" is not to rewrite what you disliked. It's to pay homage to the original product while improving the animation and artwork. If you want to overhaul the story arcs because you don't like them, then you're doing a "Remake" more than a "Remaster", and this goes for videogames too. So, of course, a Super "remaster" will keep the overarching plot points as they are and as Toriyama planned them.

Also can you quote me so I get the ping? Ty!

There's no confirmation about a remaster or remake of Dragon Ball Super; therefore, I don't consider that a reality for now.

Regarding the ending of the Future Trunks arc, that point could be discussed in another forum thread, but I can assure you that the complaint isn't reductionist to the level of wanting a fairytale happy ending. The problem is that they don't commit to a truly sad ending and end up presenting a horrible solution just to maintain the status quo, that is, to prevent Trunks from living in the timeline we know. Furthermore, the characters, with the exception of Trunks himself, treat it all as a great victory, including a "cute" moment of the two Zen'oh's reunion, even before Whis's "solution" is presented. Want a sad ending? Go ahead. I would support it. But there needs to be commitment to that choice and the consequences should be dealt with, without sweeping it all under the rug and practically never talking about it again.

As for quoting you, I don't understand what you're suggesting. This is a forum topic, with several people discussing it, and my last reply comes right after yours. There's no confusion whatsoever.

Also, there's no need to just reply here and ignore the entire discussion. Other people are bringing interesting comments to the discussion. I hope you're aware of that. But, if this is so important to you, I'm quoting you from now on.

[Yellow Flower King]

The series director and writer should absolutely be involved in actually developing the plot. The fact that the bet parts of Dragon Ball Super (2015 animated series) were those clearly developed by the people other than Toriyama goes to show how much better it is to leave creative freedom in the hands of them.

I'm a massive broken record, of course, but for the love of god, just let Tomioka Atsuhiro develop the next series and film's plot alongside the director lol

Chiaki Kon's You and Idol Precure shows how this can backfire horribly.

[miguelnuva1]

There is a French Dragonball youtuber named Sofian LeGEEK, who has interviewed Toei Dragonball workers before and has a large following on YouTube, he is saying

Its a Super remake that is following the Manga. It will go through the Manga then Moro, Granolah and then the Sh prequel.

He also says there is a CGI movie as the second announcement and of course we're getting a new game.

Dragonball hype and Geekdom on Twitter imply they onow what the announcements are but are not saying.

Geekdom got asked directly about a Super remake and refused to answer.

[Vegard Aune]

There is a French Dragonball youtuber named Sofian LeGEEK, who has interviewed Toei Dragonball workers before and has a large following on YouTube, he is saying

If I'd had a nickel for how each time someone "leaked" stuff who had similar credentials only for them to turn out to be completely making stuff up... Well I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a decent supply of nickels by now.

Sure, at this point there are a lot of people claiming to totally know that a remake is definitely happening, but none of them are primary sources. Is it possible that the remake thing is real? I guess, though I still think it seems like an odd decision financially, which leaves me disinclined to believe it. I certainly wouldn't treat it as anything other than a rumor until the 25th.

[JulieYBM]

There is a French Dragonball youtuber named Sofian LeGEEK, who has interviewed Toei Dragonball workers before and has a large following on YouTube, he is saying

If I'd had a nickel for how each time someone "leaked" stuff who had similar credentials only for them to turn out to be completely making stuff up... Well I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a decent supply of nickels by now.

Sure, at this point there are a lot of people claiming to totally know that a remake is definitely happening, but none of them are primary sources. Is it possible that the remake thing is real? I guess, though I still think it seems like an odd decision financially, which leaves me disinclined to believe it. I certainly wouldn't treat it as anything other than a rumor until the 25th.

Yeah, it's unlikely to be happening. Most of these people are grifters, because that's what the internet now rewards.

[Skar]

If I'd had a nickel for how each time someone "leaked" stuff who had similar credentials only for them to turn out to be completely making stuff up... Well I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a decent supply of nickels by now.

Sure, at this point there are a lot of people claiming to totally know that a remake is definitely happening, but none of them are primary sources. Is it possible that the remake thing is real? I guess, though I still think it seems like an odd decision financially, which leaves me disinclined to believe it. I certainly wouldn't treat it as anything other than a rumor until the 25th.

To be honest compared to most "leaks" this one seems the least farfetched. Toei is working on World Trigger and One Piece remakes (although the OP remake is a different studio and not sure if Toei is involved). DB is their most or second most popular franchise and they admit the Super anime was rushed so it's an opportunity to improve it while adapting the last remaining storylines involving Toriyama. The movie might be the last project he worked on and could be the final arc once the new anime gets there.

[JulieYBM]

If I'd had a nickel for how each time someone "leaked" stuff who had similar credentials only for them to turn out to be completely making stuff up... Well I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a decent supply of nickels by now.

Sure, at this point there are a lot of people claiming to totally know that a remake is definitely happening, but none of them are primary sources. Is it possible that the remake thing is real? I guess, though I still think it seems like an odd decision financially, which leaves me disinclined to believe it. I certainly wouldn't treat it as anything other than a rumor until the 25th.

To be honest compared to most "leaks" this one seems the least farfetched. Toei is working on World Trigger and One Piece remakes (although the OP remake is a different studio and not sure if Toei is involved). DB is their most or second most popular franchise and they admit the Super anime was rushed so it's an opportunity to improve it while adapting the last remaining storylines involving Toriyama. The movie might be the last project he worked on and could be the final arc once the new anime gets there.

The One Piece is being produced by Toei Animation, but Wit is handling the animation production. Either way, Toei is still involved.