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I think the more we attempt to explain everything away, the further we stray from Occam's Razor – which is that Daima is a different series than Super, was very much written as such, and has a lot of similar discrepancies to those between GT and Super-adjacent material that was debated about endlessly a decade prior to the overwhelming consensus that we have now.
A lot of that comes down to Toriyama's irreverence, but he remembered more about his continuity than people think. It's probably less the case that he conveniently forgot about all the stuff that would constrain him, and much more that he didn't care and just wanted to write a new continuation of the Buu arc.
I'm also still 95% convinced that Rymus is an alt version of Zeno, and I doubt that SS4 would appear in a Super remake.
A lot of that comes down to Toriyama's irreverence, but he remembered more about his continuity than people think. It's probably less the case that he conveniently forgot about all the stuff that would constrain him, and much more that he didn't care and just wanted to write a new continuation of the Buu arc.
I'm also still 95% convinced that Rymus is an alt version of Zeno, and I doubt that SS4 would appear in a Super remake.
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I find it interesting to theorize what could be the connection between Zeno and Rymus.
As of now, they could be father and son, the same dude in different stages of their never ending existence, a proxy, the first and current ruler, or just two characters from different continuities that don't even acknowledge each other.
The answer probably is going to be radio silencie. A matter that's never being addressed.
As of now, they could be father and son, the same dude in different stages of their never ending existence, a proxy, the first and current ruler, or just two characters from different continuities that don't even acknowledge each other.
The answer probably is going to be radio silencie. A matter that's never being addressed.
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"I forgot" is probably the overall real world answer to the Rymus thing. It's hilarious, either way.
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I mean, the most logical theory is that they're father and son. The Grand Minister served as Rymus' advisor, and now he serves as Zeno's regent. Zeno is clearly a child, compared to this Rymus who seems to show a lot more wisdom and maturity on his face.Koitsukai wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:24 pm I find it interesting to theorize what could be the connection between Zeno and Rymus.
As of now, they could be father and son, the same dude in different stages of their never ending existence, a proxy, the first and current ruler, or just two characters from different continuities that don't even acknowledge each other.
The answer probably is going to be radio silencie. A matter that's never being addressed.
The Grand Minister is the true power behind the throne anyway. Zeno's just a puppet.
Honestly, the world-building of the Demon Realm and the Kaioshin/Glind was by far the most interesting part of Daima.
Also, in that same flashback they showed the design of all the Kaioshin who appeared in Super, even those who only appeared in the Tournament of Power arc. You can't remember the design of a Kaioshin who only appears in the ToP, while forgetting who Zeno is. The ToP literally happens because of Zeno and HE'S ALWAYS THERE ON THE SCREEN. If you know the design of this Kaioshin who only appears in the ToP, you also remember who Zeno is.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Everything that happened in Daimancan be explained by the people in Daima not knowing much about the multiverse.
Rymus can be Zeno's dad/predecessor.
The Super Dragonballs spawned Neva's set which spawned the Namekian set which spawned Earth and Granolah's set ect.
Ss4 can be added. If they want Neva can give Vegeta SS4 with the My Bulma scene.
Its not hard to link Daima with Super with minor changes to lore.
Rymus can be Zeno's dad/predecessor.
The Super Dragonballs spawned Neva's set which spawned the Namekian set which spawned Earth and Granolah's set ect.
Ss4 can be added. If they want Neva can give Vegeta SS4 with the My Bulma scene.
Its not hard to link Daima with Super with minor changes to lore.
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I like the idea of Rymus and Zeno simply having a God of Destruction/Supreme Kai dynamic or something similar to it.
It's been irking me for months that they included the whole 12 universes thing, but there's no mention or references to Zeno and Zalama and his Super Dragon Balls.
It's been irking me for months that they included the whole 12 universes thing, but there's no mention or references to Zeno and Zalama and his Super Dragon Balls.
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That's what happens when you slavishly follow Toriyama's outlines and don't push back for consistency.IntangibleFancy wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:22 pm I like the idea of Rymus and Zeno simply having a God of Destruction/Supreme Kai dynamic or something similar to it.
It's been irking me for months that they included the whole 12 universes thing, but there's no mention or references to Zeno and Zalama and his Super Dragon Balls.
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I have wondered before if the bulk of continuity discrepancies between Super and Daima are down to Toriyama writing the story, dying, and then the studio is like well this is the story, versus if he was alive maybe someone would've been like "hey this part doesn't make sense because this happens in Super" and he could be like oh okay have it say this instead. But honestly I know very little about Daima's production and I'd love to watch a documentary on it or something. Like was Toriyama actually writing the dialogue and lore itself or was it just outlines? He must've had some hand in the details because he most likely designed Rymus. There's probably interviews about the show's production that I just haven't looked up yet.
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Outlines plus overseeing Kakihara's scripts, I believe. It's why the episodes don't really feel like episodes written by television writers like Dragon Ball Super or any other Toei Animation cartoon does.funrush wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:27 pm I have wondered before if the bulk of continuity discrepancies between Super and Daima are down to Toriyama writing the story, dying, and then the studio is like well this is the story, versus if he was alive maybe someone would've been like "hey this part doesn't make sense because this happens in Super" and he could be like oh okay have it say this instead. But honestly I know very little about Daima's production and I'd love to watch a documentary on it or something. Like was Toriyama actually writing the dialogue and lore itself or was it just outlines? He must've had some hand in the details because he most likely designed Rymus. There's probably interviews about the show's production that I just haven't looked up yet.
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Daima was written as a standalone story that was connected directly to the Buu arc; the reason it contradicts Super is because it wasn't taking Super into account to begin with.funrush wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:27 pmI have wondered before if the bulk of continuity discrepancies between Super and Daima are down to Toriyama writing the story, dying, and then the studio is like well this is the story, versus if he was alive maybe someone would've been like "hey this part doesn't make sense because this happens in Super" and he could be like oh okay have it say this instead.
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At this point similar people close to Toriyama has said his goal was writing stories to entrain the fans and worry about connecting them later.funrush wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:27 pm I have wondered before if the bulk of continuity discrepancies between Super and Daima are down to Toriyama writing the story, dying, and then the studio is like well this is the story, versus if he was alive maybe someone would've been like "hey this part doesn't make sense because this happens in Super" and he could be like oh okay have it say this instead. But honestly I know very little about Daima's production and I'd love to watch a documentary on it or something. Like was Toriyama actually writing the dialogue and lore itself or was it just outlines? He must've had some hand in the details because he most likely designed Rymus. There's probably interviews about the show's production that I just haven't looked up yet.
Toriyama probably wrote Daima not carrying if it worked with Super as long as it worked with Buu.
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If They are really going with any kind of Super remake another think they need to do is please have a simuldub ready.
There was no reason Daima should have been 12 weeks behind the sub release especially when the first 3 episodes were released as a movie a month after episode 1.
If we're doing Beerus-TOP again everyone should be able to watch and get through it at the same time.
There was no reason Daima should have been 12 weeks behind the sub release especially when the first 3 episodes were released as a movie a month after episode 1.
If we're doing Beerus-TOP again everyone should be able to watch and get through it at the same time.
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miguelnuva1 wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:40 am If They are really going with any kind of Super remake another think they need to do is please have a simuldub ready.
There was no reason Daima should have been 12 weeks behind the sub release especially when the first 3 episodes were released as a movie a month after episode 1.
If we're doing Beerus-TOP again everyone should be able to watch and get through it at the same time.
Especially no reason to not even have announced a French dub of Daima by now.
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Toei are completely backwards when it comes to handling Dragon Ball internationally, so don't expect anything close to a day and date Dub. In fact, we'll be lucky to just get it subbed.
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If the rumors are real, Toei, or Capsule Corp, or who’s ever in charge the writing for the remake would be stupid to make the ToP arc 1 to 1 with the manga version.
Notable Characters whose role in the original anime ranged from notable to major, like Dyspo, Toppo, The Trio de Dangers, Ribrianne’s group and Anilaza would be reduced to being minor characters in the remake.
All of the iconic moments from the original would ether be omitted, or in the case of UI Goku vs Jiren, or Goku and Freeza’s final attack on Jiren, Made completely lackluster in comparison to the original.
As good as it would be to get “UI!Roshi”, Gohan vs Kelfla, and the fight between the GoDs all animated, it’s not worth sitting through a terrible retelling of what is universally agreed to be the DBS anime’s best arc
Notable Characters whose role in the original anime ranged from notable to major, like Dyspo, Toppo, The Trio de Dangers, Ribrianne’s group and Anilaza would be reduced to being minor characters in the remake.
All of the iconic moments from the original would ether be omitted, or in the case of UI Goku vs Jiren, or Goku and Freeza’s final attack on Jiren, Made completely lackluster in comparison to the original.
As good as it would be to get “UI!Roshi”, Gohan vs Kelfla, and the fight between the GoDs all animated, it’s not worth sitting through a terrible retelling of what is universally agreed to be the DBS anime’s best arc
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All the rumors are pointing towards this being a glorified remaster (correcting the really bad art and animation), rather than a ground up remake. This is also supposedly going to cut down the episode count like Kai did, so all those iconic episodes from the tournament will be kept, it's just that the lackluster/filler like ones will be removed.shadd21 wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:31 amIf the rumors are real, Toei, or Capsule Corp, or who’s ever in charge the writing for the remake would be stupid to make the ToP arc 1 to 1 with the manga version.
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That's your interpretation. Nobody trustworthy actually said this. I read and heard it would be a remake from the ground but not nessecarely follow the manga 1:1. But nobody knows what it's going to be like, if it happens.The Dark Knight wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:51 amAll the rumors are pointing towards this being a glorified remaster (correcting the really bad art and animation), rather than a ground up remake. This is also supposedly going to cut down the episode count like Kai did, so all those iconic episodes from the tournament will be kept, it's just that the lackluster/filler like ones will be removed.shadd21 wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:31 amIf the rumors are real, Toei, or Capsule Corp, or who’s ever in charge the writing for the remake would be stupid to make the ToP arc 1 to 1 with the manga version.
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12 Universes and straight up cameos of Super characters make it feel like it kind of was taking it into acount though. Unless Toei added that and these scenes weren't in the original outline.The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:58 pm Daima was written as a standalone story that was connected directly to the Buu arc; the reason it contradicts Super is because it wasn't taking Super into account to begin with.
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The gods from Super were purely a visual cameo, so I absolutely believe that was not from Toriyama. He may have written the lore dump, but I doubt he had a hand in the visuals accompanying it. The mention of multiple universes... well that technically predates Super, though it also was a major enough factor in enough stories that even Toriyama the Ever-Forgetful probably did remember that there were multiple universes and that Goku & Co. were from Universe 7.Xeogran wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 10:05 am12 Universes and straight up cameos of Super characters make it feel like it kind of was taking it into acount though. Unless Toei added that and these scenes weren't in the original outline.The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:58 pm Daima was written as a standalone story that was connected directly to the Buu arc; the reason it contradicts Super is because it wasn't taking Super into account to begin with.
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Toriyama designed half of them, Toyotaro designed the other half.Vegard Aune wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:26 amThe gods from Super were purely a visual cameo, so I absolutely believe that was not from Toriyama. He may have written the lore dump, but I doubt he had a hand in the visuals accompanying it. The mention of multiple universes... well that technically predates Super, though it also was a major enough factor in enough stories that even Toriyama the Ever-Forgetful probably did remember that there were multiple universes and that Goku & Co. were from Universe 7.Xeogran wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 10:05 am12 Universes and straight up cameos of Super characters make it feel like it kind of was taking it into acount though. Unless Toei added that and these scenes weren't in the original outline.The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:58 pm Daima was written as a standalone story that was connected directly to the Buu arc; the reason it contradicts Super is because it wasn't taking Super into account to begin with.

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