Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[miguelnuva1]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

Super is going to get a new once over once these enhanced shorter arcs come out because animation and pacing were its too biggest nitpicks. Super when watched now as a whole has better packing then it did going week to week but when they tighten it down again, I cna see people being more kind to it.

If enhanced Super goes well I can see them doing the Dragonball remake looking like the preview view they showed in 5 years.

[Noah]

Anyway I’m glad it’s not actually a remake, let alone something ‘faithful’ to the DBS manga. People tend to forget that the manga originally started as a promotional product for the anime and only really decided to become its own thing starting with the Future Trunks arc.

In fact, imagine that arc, which did a great job keeping Black’s identity a mystery being completely thrown away just to match Toyotaro’s manga version. That would be so lame.

Now, about revisiting the Battle of Gods story for the fourth time… yeah, I watched the trailer and I liked the animation, but more than a decade later, with countless retcons, you really start to see how convoluted that story is. I mean, why would Beerus be excited about Super Saiyan God in the first place if it couldn’t even make him use more than 10% of his full power? To not make this sound ridiculous they could add a line where is more about he seeing potential as a future sucessor than anything related of him finally having a chance of displaying his full power.


Also, do we have any official dates? If Moro arc is indeed fall 2027, this mean this whole year of 2026 will be just the retellings and nothing more?

[JulieYBM]

Well, if they mess up the second attempt, they can try again in five years. After all, it's improving, isn't it? Personally, I'd stay in this endless cycle. In 2036, there will be children who didn't watch the series in 2026, so they'll make a new version for them.

Welcome to GeGeGe no Kitarou, which has done a new, rebooted animated series every decade since the 1960s.

[SupremeKai25]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

Super is going to get a new once over once these enhanced shorter arcs come out because animation and pacing were its too biggest nitpicks. Super when watched now as a whole has better packing then it did going week to week but when they tighten it down again, I cna see people being more kind to it.

If enhanced Super goes well I can see them doing the Dragonball remake looking like the preview view they showed in 5 years.

The difference between Super and the original Dragon Ball is that Super actually needed a remaster. The artists of Super were overworked and rushed because they only head 2 months of production.

Meanwhile, the artwork of original Dragon Ball is good and doesn't need a remaster.

The only reason to remaster original Dragon Ball is to remove all those ugly sexist jokes that Master Roshi makes.

[Kenji]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

This meme took the words right out of my mouth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsupe ... of_things/

I can definitely understand being frustrated when you enjoy something that others don't for mostly superficial reasons (ie: the animation)

But making strawmen and generalizations, dismissing and invalidating constructive criticism that took out others' enjoyment of your thing in the past, and worse, taking the stance of a capitalist company's white knight who you yourself admitted has mistreated their workers, will definitely not make people like your thing more, I'm sorry.

[Yellow Flower King]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

This meme took the words right out of my mouth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsupe ... of_things/

I want any chance I can get to hear James Masters on an anime dub again. Seriously, he's a natural. One of the few times simply hiring a celebrity turned out alright.

[SupremeKai25]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

This meme took the words right out of my mouth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsupe ... of_things/

I can definitely understand being frustrated when you enjoy something that others don't for mostly superficial reasons (ie: the animation)

But making strawmen and generalizations, dismissing and invalidating constructive criticism that took out others' enjoyment of your thing in the past, and worse, taking the stance of a capitalist company's white knight who you yourself admitted has mistreated their workers, will definitely not make people like your thing more, I'm sorry.

No one's being the "white knight of a capitalist company". It's not that deep. It's just a meme.

And the "constructive criticism" isn't being "invalidated". The Remaster, as already stated by Toei on the official website, will not only present enhanced artwork and revised animation, but also revisions and new cuts to make the story align more with Akira Toriyama's lore and world-building.

If your criticism is that Super looked ugly, that's being covered. If your criticism is that the story doesn't flow properly with the original manga (i.e. retcons/plot-holes or whatever), that's also being addressed. If your criticism is the filler and bloating, the new episode count speaks for itself - 6 episodes vs. 14 of the original BoG retelling.

Let's not call people "capitalist white knights" for pointing out the facts that are stated on the official website and being fair towards a new product.

[Grimlock]

Where are people seeing it's "just six episodes"? Any actual and official source stated that?

[danyq94]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

Super is going to get a new once over once these enhanced shorter arcs come out because animation and pacing were its too biggest nitpicks. Super when watched now as a whole has better packing then it did going week to week but when they tighten it down again, I cna see people being more kind to it.

If enhanced Super goes well I can see them doing the Dragonball remake looking like the preview view they showed in 5 years.

The difference between Super and the original Dragon Ball is that Super actually needed a remaster. The artists of Super were overworked and rushed because they only head 2 months of production.

Meanwhile, the artwork of original Dragon Ball is good and doesn't need a remaster.

The only reason to remaster original Dragon Ball is to remove all those ugly sexist jokes that Master Roshi makes.

The entire original Dragon Ball anime (from Pilaf to Buu) suffers from genuinely awful pacing and, for the most part, animation that feels very dated today.
I keep reading takes like “They’re remaking Super to appeal to younger audiences who would never watch the old Super”.
But why would they happily watch the original DB/DBZ anime instead?

If I put myself in the shoes of a kid — or even a young adult, or an adult — I honestly wouldn’t want to watch an Oozaru lineart shaking while screaming during the 21th Tenkaichi just because that was 1980s cheap weekly animation.

And please, let’s stop with the sexist jokes discourse.
That was a different time, a different culture, and a completely different kind of humor. It’s at the very least unfair to judge a work from the past using today’s values and sensitivities.
It’s far more reasonable to understand that certain things were made in a specific historical context rather than getting outraged about them now.

[super michael]

If the writing in DBS remastered or remake is better, I will consider that good news. If they tone down Goku dumb moment, then that would be a huge improvement. Toyotaro had the right idea with DBS Super Hero manga.

[Kenji]

No one's being the "white knight of a capitalist company". It's not that deep. It's just a meme.

...

The core basis of your frustration with the fandom seems to be that people don't like anything Toei offers.
And that the fandom is hypocritically not satisfied with an enhanced Super retelling.
That, my friend, is white-knighting for a company who doesn't give two shits about you and whose only real interest is making profit.
Actual, honest creativity be damned.

It's especially jarring because Battle of Gods have been retold about 4 times now, making this feel especially unnecessary.
I have already stated that I would've preferred something new over things we have already seen before.
And I have already conceded that if the story and pacing improves, I'm interested in seeing it.
But I still would've preferred something new over yet another retelling.

And yet, my criticism, alongside with presumably several other people, are being lumped in together and invalidated as "Nothing is ever good enough for this fandom who bitched about Super's animation for well over a decade." Please, let's not pretend that Super's animation is the only issue people are having with this announcement.

And admittedly, yeah, I haven't checked out the website.
My main source of information is this forum. I don't have Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, BlueSky, or any other mainstream social media because I'm too old and jaded for that kind of meaningless drama and corpo-promoting, so I'm frequently locked out of the loop. I had no information about this project until the forum members informed me more about it and I swiftly changed my stance on it.

[funrush]

I seriously don't understand the reaction to this remaster.

For 10 years people made fun of Super's artwork, all those obnoxious episode 5 memes. The rushed artwork was always the main criticism levied at Super.

Now, finally, after 10 years, they're remastering Super to fix the artwork and animation errors and overall make a more polished and better-looking product. Yet still you see so much complaining?! It doesn't make any sense to me.

They listened: They're fixing the art and animation. They just can't win with this fandom or what?

This meme took the words right out of my mouth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dragonballsupe ... of_things/

I think it's because they're starting with the arc that already has a good-looking movie, but once we get to U6 and Goku Black people might start being like "oooo" idk we'll see

[JulieYBM]

I don't much see the point of bothering to brand something as 'pointless' given that it's going to exist for the rest of time anyway. If it's good, good. If it's bad, that sucks, maybe they'll do it better next time. Like, I think Dragon Ball Evolution and Fukkatsu no F are bad films, I don't go around watching them everyday and complaining about them. I hardly had the time to watch shit I do like lol

[SupremeKai25]

No one's being the "white knight of a capitalist company". It's not that deep. It's just a meme.

...

The core basis of your frustration with the fandom seems to be that people don't like anything Toei offers.

That wasn't my point.

My point was that a lot of people in the fandom were very critical of Super's animation and artwork (this is undeniable, the episode 5 memes are infamous), so to see the negative reception on this forum to this remaster is quite bizarre.

I would have expected a more positive and optimistic reaction to a remaster of an anime that was largely criticized for its artwork and writing, which are both going to be improved in the remaster.

I am fully supporting Toei in this case, because they listened to the complaints and are going to try to fix these problems with the remaster. They literally listened to the fandom. And you don't get to call me "capitalist white knight" just because I'm optimistic to this remaster and give Toei credit where credit is due.

Please, let's not pretend that Super's animation is the only issue people are having with this announcement.

In my post, I also addressed the writing complaints and the filler complaints.

I mentioned what is stated on the official website, that they will not only make revisions to better align with Toriyama's lore and world-building, but are also cutting down the number of episodes.

I give credit where credit is due. I'm not going to be negative when the team actually listened to the fandom and are making a product that will hopefully resolve a lot of these grievances people have with the original anime.

[Kenji]

There is nothing wrong with wanting actual creativity and new stories, and being disappointed after getting "the exact same thing that had already existed before in several different formats, but presented differently" yet again.

You do you, but I personally am not going to treat what I see as a Disney Live-Action Remake as if it's a revolutionary piece of artistic integrity.

[PhantomSaiyan]

I really do not understand the complaints. What are the downsides of having the Battle of Gods anime version enhanced and made better?

Like seriously, what do we lose exactly? What are the cons? Are we complaining just for the sake of complaning here?

Of course enhancing something isn't the highest form of artistic integrity or whatever, but does everything need to be? Kinda baffled, like yeah, I'm not super hyped for it either, but it's cool that we are getting an improved product, what's bad about it exactly?

[SupremeKai25]

There is nothing wrong with wanting actual creativity and new stories, and being disappointed after getting "the exact same thing that had already existed before in several different formats, but presented differently" yet again.

You do you, but I personally am not going to treat what I see as a Disney Live-Action Remake as if it's a revolutionary piece of artistic integrity.

The Moro saga is also being adapted. That IS a new story. There's a big difference between reading a story on a page and watching it on a screen with animation and voice acting and OST.

I really do not understand the complaints. What are the downsides of having the Battle of Gods anime version enhanced and made better?

Like seriously, what do we lose exactly? What are the cons? Are we complaining just for the sake of complaning here?

Of course enhancing something isn't the highest form of artistic integrity or whatever, but does everything need to be? Kinda baffled, like yeah, I'm not super hyped for it either, but it's cool that we are getting an improved product, what's bad about it exactly?

I don't understand why these news are getting mixed receptions on the forums.

Fans who want to see the old anime fixed are getting that. Fans who want to see the manga arcs animated and the manga characters in videogames are also getting that.

They are quite literally bringing back Super with a bang and trying to satisfy both worlds - the people who look to the past and those who look to the future. They're all getting new content to look forward to, whether that is the old anime remastered or the post 2018 stories animated.

I have come to the conclusion that I will NEVER understand what the Dragon Ball fandom wants.

[Yellow Flower King]

No one's being the "white knight of a capitalist company". It's not that deep. It's just a meme.

...

The core basis of your frustration with the fandom seems to be that people don't like anything Toei offers.
And that the fandom is hypocritically not satisfied with an enhanced Super retelling.
That, my friend, is white-knighting for a company who doesn't give two shits about you and whose only real interest is making profit.
Actual, honest creativity be damned.

It's especially jarring because Battle of Gods have been retold about 4 times now, making this feel especially unnecessary.
I have already stated that I would've preferred something new over things we have already seen before.
And I have already conceded that if the story and pacing improves, I'm interested in seeing it.
But I still would've preferred something new over yet another retelling.

And yet, my criticism, alongside with presumably several other people, are being lumped in together and invalidated as "Nothing is ever good enough for this fandom who bitched about Super's animation for well over a decade." Please, let's not pretend that Super's animation is the only issue people are having with this announcement.

And admittedly, yeah, I haven't checked out the website.
My main source of information is this forum. I don't have Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, BlueSky, or any other mainstream social media because I'm too old and jaded for that kind of meaningless drama and corpo-promoting, so I'm frequently locked out of the loop. I had no information about this project until the forum members informed me more about it and I swiftly changed my stance on it.

I agree with you capitalism is bad and so on. One thing though. You shouldnt fool yourself. Your take of "Toei should do a new original story" is just as "capitalist" and "unprincipled". Capitalism is bad sure, but any sort of official anime has to engage with capitalism. I do agree with you. I really do. And capitalism IS a major evil in the world.

[Hellspawn28]

What kids are reading the Dragon Ball manga?

Libraries exist, you know. I have seen the Dragon Ball manga in the kids section at many school libraries. I even work at two of them for work study in High School. Both had their good share of Shonen manga.

[IntangibleFancy]

I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that they're adding new cuts to it, and some of them are even related to the manga. But now I'm wondering two things.

1. When it comes to the manga, what are they going to do after RoF, because U6 upwards basically becomes two different versions of DBS after that.

2. Do you guys think they'll flat out remake some of the bigger fights, like SSB Goku vs Frieza, and Vegito vs Zamasu?