Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[MCDaveG]

I don’t care about animation as much as about them revising the scripts. Please, make Pilaf kids make sense! Or that godawful part with rock, paper, scissors.
6 episode length is reasonable.

Wonder about new openings.

[super michael]

I don’t care about animation as much as about them revising the scripts. Please, make Pilaf kids make sense! Or that godawful part with rock, paper, scissors.
6 episode length is reasonable.

Wonder about new openings.

I am the same also, what I truly want is better writing and a better script. If the animation is better, that is a bonus.

[L3anD3RStar]

I don’t care about animation as much as about them revising the scripts. Please, make Pilaf kids make sense!

The Pilaf kids were one of the things that brought Toriyama back to the franchise, if I’m remembering correctly.

I’m fuzzy on some details, but if I remember right, Toriyama saw “Dragon Ball Evolution,” and didn’t like it, but there was nothing he could do about it. A few years later, he sees the material for “Battle of Gods,” and doesn’t like it, and decides to do something about it. Instead of rubber stamping the movie and then collecting his mailbox money, he redid a bunch of the designs, turned the Super Saiyan God from a beefy dude with a beard and a cape to a slim redhead, redesigned the lizard man villain to look like his cat, created Whis so that guy had someone to interact with, and basically redid the whole story. I think the original story was Beerus had the power to make people evil, and he used it on Krillin and 18’s wedding so everybody tries to kill each other. Toriyama didn’t like the story, thought it was too dark, so he added the Pilaf gang and a ton of humor, changed Beerus’s personality and basically redid the whole story, with apologies to the screenwriter, who didn’t even really get to complain because holy crap Toriyama is making Dragon Ball again.

I tend to see this perception that the darker the material, the closer it must be to the Original Vision. But Toriyama was a gag manga artist to begin with, and he was open about not really liking it when things got too serious. He said he liked Bardock and Story of Trunks, but he couldn’t have written them because they were too sad.

We fans take stuff seriously, and we want to see the material taken seriously. But that has nothing to do with Toriyama. He wasn’t that guy,

[L3anD3RStar]

My point with that post was that Toei really doesn't deserve that much credit for providing the bare minimum that is an anime production not made with animators being crunched to death with hideous-looking results.

Isn’t it the case that the first season of Super looked so bad that Toriyama himself complained about it? And then insisted later seasons get his approval before they could air?

The guy tried so hard not to care, but he couldn’t help himself.

He is missed.

[Luso Saiyan]

Isn’t it the case that the first season of Super looked so bad that Toriyama himself complained about it?

Yes.

And then insisted later seasons get his approval before they could air?

No.

[L3anD3RStar]

Isn’t it the case that the first season of Super looked so bad that Toriyama himself complained about it?

Yes.

And then insisted later seasons get his approval before they could air?

No.

Ah, ok. Thanks for correcting my mistake.

[WittyUsername]

As much as I’m over DBS and find the manga arcs to be boring, I admit it’s surreal that the anime is coming back after nearly a decade of being off the air. 2018 feels like a lifetime ago.

[Mister_Popo]

There’s only one word to describe this: FINALLY.
Seeing a thread of hundreds of pages, where the actual announcement was missing, and which eventually got locked due to lack of relevant news… well, it was definitely about time.

Why did it take so long for Super 2.0? I think it’s a combination of several reasons. First, the manga needed to get far enough ahead to provide enough content. The legal conflict between Shueisha and Capsule Corp had to be resolved. And probably TOEI needed to create organizational space to produce more Dragon Ball content. That last point was really necessary, considering the scope of the project. Dragon Ball Super: Beerus has apparently been in production for several years. This makes the overall Super anime project (actually two projects: the remake and the new adaptation) much bigger than we initially thought.

My feelings about the remake are somehow mixed. On one hand, it’s a unique chance to clean up the animation and story, and to make Super 1 a coherent arc that aligns better with the manga — something that was really needed. The movies had superior animation but left out a lot of content. For example, the training on Whis’ planet shows that the characters gain God-ki, the new power source that Super revolves around. You can’t just leave that out. The anime explains it, but the animation quality can be very inconsistent at times (like Goku vs Freeza). Even the cleaned-up Blu-ray version didn’t fix this.

I do like that we’re getting versions of these arcs that combine the “best of both worlds.” Although both the DBS manga and anime have their strengths and weaknesses, there are definitely opportunities to add manga material into the anime to improve overall writing and consistency. For example, I find the power scaling system in the manga better, more realistic, and more balanced than in the anime. Goku and Vegeta don’t immediately use Super Saiyan Blue at full power because it consumes a lot of energy; instead, they rely on Super Saiyan God and only switch to Blue when needed.The manga also doesn’t have extreme multipliers like Blue Kaioken x10 or x20 to make the power levels skyrocket.

There may also be an opportunity to bring this version of Super more in line with Daima (e.g., showing SSJ4 during the fight with Beerus). But since they want to stay closer to the manga, a substantial difference between manga and anime will emerge again. Interesting to see how they'll cope with this.

On the other hand, this also feels like a way to further capitalize on Toriyama’s name without adding much new substance to the story. From a marketing perspective however, it’s a smart move: airing Super again before the Galactic Patrol arc generates much more interest if you can offer a reworked version. I’m especially curious about how they will rewrite the story, so it hopefully fits better with the Galactic Patrol arc.

As for the Galactic Patrol arc itself: we’ve been waiting so long for it in anime format. I don’t care if it comes out at the end of 2027 or in 2028. The writers and animators just need enough time to ensure the quality is right.

[Xeogran]

I do like that we’re getting versions of these arcs that combine the “best of both worlds.”

I really want this to be true, but I'm worried it will still be 90% anime remaster and maybe 10% of manga stuff. Things like GoD Clash that was in the manga but not in the anime would take a lot of resources to animate well. I fear they may skimp out on that one for example. Alongside some other manga stuff that would be entirely new material to the anime.

There's still a chance this remake may be "worst of both worlds"

[Luso Saiyan]

It's not a remake, guys. The series is still the same as it was, only some shots/scenes will be reanimated and edited. Don't expect something done from the ground up with all the bells and whistles. It's not that.

[Mister_Popo]

It's not a remake, guys. The series is still the same as it was, only some shots/scenes will be reanimated and edited. Don't expect something done from the ground up with all the bells and whistles. It's not that.

Old scenes are reused (as a base). The project features extensive new cuts, revisions to existing scenes, a complete re-rendering of all footage, newly recorded dubbing with added score and sound effects, and a full reconstruction of the story. This is a partial remake, not a full one, but it goes much further than, for example, the remaster that Kai was.

[MCDaveG]

I don’t care about animation as much as about them revising the scripts. Please, make Pilaf kids make sense!

The Pilaf kids were one of the things that brought Toriyama back to the franchise, if I’m remembering correctly.

I’m fuzzy on some details, but if I remember right, Toriyama saw “Dragon Ball Evolution,” and didn’t like it, but there was nothing he could do about it. A few years later, he sees the material for “Battle of Gods,” and doesn’t like it, and decides to do something about it. Instead of rubber stamping the movie and then collecting his mailbox money, he redid a bunch of the designs, turned the Super Saiyan God from a beefy dude with a beard and a cape to a slim redhead, redesigned the lizard man villain to look like his cat, created Whis so that guy had someone to interact with, and basically redid the whole story. I think the original story was Beerus had the power to make people evil, and he used it on Krillin and 18’s wedding so everybody tries to kill each other. Toriyama didn’t like the story, thought it was too dark, so he added the Pilaf gang and a ton of humor, changed Beerus’s personality and basically redid the whole story, with apologies to the screenwriter, who didn’t even really get to complain because holy crap Toriyama is making Dragon Ball again.

I tend to see this perception that the darker the material, the closer it must be to the Original Vision. But Toriyama was a gag manga artist to begin with, and he was open about not really liking it when things got too serious. He said he liked Bardock and Story of Trunks, but he couldn’t have written them because they were too sad.

We fans take stuff seriously, and we want to see the material taken seriously. But that has nothing to do with Toriyama. He wasn’t that guy,

Not sure if quoted right, as I am exactly that fan of Toriyama over the intended TOEI script, which sounded like classic TOEI movie “OMG, Broly, his power is maximum”.

My issue with Pilaf and co and the BOG versions in general is, that the movie and more so, the director’s cut, were perfect. I grew up in Europe, watching french and german TV broadcasts, starting with OG DB and DBZ later at the end of the 90s and I hated the Saban and further americanized versions of DB in general (or rather, Deebeezee!) with passion, being called weaboo back in the day, around the time I joined Daizex, as I switched to the japanese original later down the way.
I really enjoyed BOG as it had everything I liked DB for. The signature gags, slice of life and battle climax and felt like a proper sequel in contrast to TOEI’s movie fair sidestories that had simplistic and same format, highlighting nonsensical action over some bigger plots. I am definitely not that fan. It’s for the same reason I really liked Daima and was kinda dissapointed by the climactic episodes…

In case of Super, I had high expectations that they will build on the movie plot with longer run-time/more episodes, but the execution was crap. Outside of long stretches with shit production value and basic choreography, they failed to include why Pilaf and co. are kids, some funny scenes like drunk Gohan/Great Saiyaman were dropped for uninspired “filler” that made the story rather tedious than using the opportunity effectively. Some fun parts from the director’s cut like Oolong’s rock, paper, scissors gag were botched and in this case, made into unbereable segment taking almost the whole episode and the humor dissipating from it. Opportunities, like Champa’s foreshadowing, completely dropped.

The BOG movie is still my most favorite part in the whole Z sequel saga, hence with this remaster/remake taking off, I really hope they are going to rectify not just the art department, but the script one as well. I like Super as a concept, but the show itself is a shitshow of poorly executed compromises and even tho I favored the movie format for Super’s remakes during the weeks leading to Genkidama Tsuri, 6 episodes are reasonable and expectations are in place.

[Luso Saiyan]

Old scenes are reused (as a base). The project features extensive new cuts, revisions to existing scenes, a complete re-rendering of all footage, newly recorded dubbing with added score and sound effects, and a full reconstruction of the story. This is a partial remake, not a full one, but it goes much further than, for example, the remaster that Kai was.

Yes, some of the scenes and shots they'll touch on are remade, but other than that, it's still the same material re-edited. That's why they call it an enhanced edition.

It's true that they are going more in-depth than when they did Kai, but it's still a Kai equivalent re-issue. Which is fine, but a remake it is not.

[MCDaveG]

It's not a remake, guys. The series is still the same as it was, only some shots/scenes will be reanimated and edited. Don't expect something done from the ground up with all the bells and whistles. It's not that.

Old scenes are reused (as a base). The project features extensive new cuts, revisions to existing scenes, a complete re-rendering of all footage, newly recorded dubbing with added score and sound effects, and a full reconstruction of the story. This is a partial remake, not a full one, but it goes much further than, for example, the remaster that Kai was.

To be honest, the Kai’s redraws were of poor quality and sometimes questionable to begin with, but it was always doomed to look jarring because of the inevitable mix of different technologies and practices in anime production, hence we can safely assume, that all results wouldn’t mix well.

With Super being produced in digital age, the result will be far better. I don’t see any reason to be afraid in the visual dept.

[SupremeKai25]

It's not a remake, guys. The series is still the same as it was, only some shots/scenes will be reanimated and edited. Don't expect something done from the ground up with all the bells and whistles. It's not that.

It's enough to make the old Super anime look ten times better and actually wonderful. So far this project seems to be a success, and without rushed deadlines, it means the artwork will be consistently good.

[Mr Baggins]

Fans who want to see the manga arcs animated and the manga characters in videogames are also getting that.

No, this is speculative. You have no idea what anyone is getting from this project.

Some of you people are being comically performative; both in terms of how you perceive others are reacting to the announcement and in terms of your own reactions to it. Firstly, I don't "hate" this at all. I'm completely indifferent. My investment in this thing is so minuscule that I've made exactly one other post about it in this thread, mainly because I don't care to discuss it at length. Secondly, it's telling that the praise I'm seeing is based almost purely on what people think or hope might be included than what was actually confirmed to be included.

They've said nothing about Super: Beerus other than that it's remastering the Beerus arc with some redrawn cuts and maybe a couple of new scenes. We have "insiders" claiming it'll go on to Golden Frieza, and one of them mentioned Champa, but we don't know how much of that is from their own inferences versus stuff they've hard-confirmed. This anime could go up to the Tournament of Power (or not) and we still don't know whether the plan is to trim some fat or adapt the manga more closely. We know nothing.

I don't care about the upteenth fucking version of the Beerus arc. The original film is great as-is, and is readily available for anyone who cares to watch it. And we can, in fact, keep an open mind about where this might go afterward while tentatively not giving a damn about what little has been said so far.

Take off the armor, put down the sword and relax, my guy. You don't have to bat for this yet. Don't get ahead of yourself. Wait and see what happens before you decide to lavish praise.

[SupremeKai25]

They've said nothing about Super: Beerus other than that it's remastering the Beerus arc with some redrawn cuts and maybe a couple of new scenes.

Indeed, so I will already praise Toei for this alone.

You might not care about seeing the Beerus saga for the fourth time but with better quality - I do. So I shouldn't praise Toei already because...?

Also, there's no "maybe". They said with certainty on the official website that they are making revisions to better align with Akira Toriyama's ideas. The new shots from the trailers are demonstrably high quality and markedly superior to the original anime.

[Mr Baggins]

Indeed, so I will already praise Toei for this alone.

You might not care about seeing the Beerus saga for the fourth time but with better quality - I do. So I shouldn't praise Toei already because...?

Okay, so enjoy your fifth revision of Battle of Gods or whatever.

Just stop pretending to be shocked that so many others are nowhere nearly as enthused about it as you are. It's performative, big dawg. Chill out on the tone policing.

[super michael]

There is more to a anime than just improving animation and including cut content. The script and writing of the anime are important also, which is something DBS anime failed really bad. We don't know what changes there will be in this remastered and remake.

I didn't like how some characters were written in DBS anime.

As for BoG I don't have any complaint about it.

[JulieYBM]

Y'know, with this announcement, I've already noticed something kind of annoying. How everyone and their mother who fell off Dragon Ball is suddenly jumping back on the bandwagon again. And I'm not blaming them because it's been pretty dry for the past few years besides Super Hero and Daima. But it goes back to something Geekdom101 said when the Super anime originally ended back in 2018 - It basically amounted to something along the lines of "Let's see who was a real fan among the normies or who was just a grifter". Something like that. Basically he was saying that some people just used Super for clout and views and when it ended, had nothing more to offer with their videos and content, etc.

But now, we're going to see a bunch of reaction channels and couples making videos reacting to Super and adding absolutely NOTHING to the conversation. I guess I'm cynical when it comes to that, but it will be kind of annoying. Then again, it's not like I have to watch that content. I can just ignore it, but still, seeing the thumbnails with the fake hyped faces will be annoying to deal with. I'm an asshole, I know.

Also, side note, the countdown with the Dragon Balls they did when the event reached seven seconds until starting was a really nice touch. And I liked the music they chose while we waited.

Speaking as a woman who has been a fan since 1998 and has been a member of this forum for twenty years and has an ungodly number of posts (18,364 as of this post lol), I think this attitude is really silly. I'm trying to be polite here, but...so the fuck what? Fandom isn't a competition. Fandom isn't something to build a hierarchy out of. People want to jump on a bandwagon? Whatever. Who cares? Like, get a life. 'Real fan' shit is ultimately pointless and only contributes to annoying nonsense that gets in the way of sincere discussion of the arts.

Fandom remains it's worst enemy and it's kind of just ridiculous. We have nothing to prove, y'all.