Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[L3anD3RStar]

So, Toei wanted to make something new with DB in the mid-2000s, mainly because merch sales were down at Bandai, but they wanted Toriyama's involvement to develop it. Toriyama didn't wanna be involved, so they elected to do Kai instead. Come 2009 when Evolution comes out, Toriyama's disappointed & feels disrespected because they didn't take any of his advice to make the movie better. Come 2012 or so when they're making Battle of Gods, Toriyama got directly involved in writing the film & completely redid a lot of what they had as a "Fuck you" to the Fox execs. IIRC, he replaced some other characters with the Pilaf gang, they weren't one of the reasons he did the movie.

Evolution is an interesting case. It’s a time where we lose the battle to win the war. Lose the battle because the movie was bad, nobody liked it, and those who signed on to help make it because they were passionate about the source material ended up feeling betrayed and disappointed. But we won the war, because it annoyed Toriyama so much that he decided he didn’t want his name attached to any more bad movies. Not when he could do something about it.

To be honest, the Kai’s redraws were of poor quality and sometimes questionable to begin with

WHICH MAKES NO SENSE. Dragon Ball is only one of the most famous and important anime in the world. Why wouldn’t this be a time to go all out with the animation? It’s the most important action anime ever made. Especially with Super, you’ve got artists who have trained for decades for a chance to work on this franchise specifically. And the signs of rushed or careless production are everywhere. Why? How? Why is that allowed to happen? This isnt some no-name obscure title with no legacy to live up to, this is Dragon Ball. It’s never made sense to me.

[JulieYBM]

All the conversations around Super: Beerus make it seem like the entirety of Super is getting the enhanced remaster treatment, but has there been any confirmation that it's not literally just the BoG arc?

Outside of Ajay, who has insider information telling him that the Golden Freeza arc is also being enhanced, no.

The fact that they've just announced one short arc doesn't make me hopeful that they're actually doing the entire anime, honestly...

There's no reason to announce that they're doing the entire series at once when they can have more announcement events in the future. There's at least ten months until the Beerus arc comes out, after all. Capitalists are all about controlling the drip of information to the consumer.

[Xeogran]

There was a 2nd genga leak with SSB Goku so definitely more is coming.

Spoiler:

and that Goku was not dressed up in his RoF clothes, so that could even be from the U6 arc.

[Noah]

Somebody please tell me this is FAKE:



New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

[JulieYBM]

Somebody please tell me this is FAKE:



New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

It's fake but even if it wasn't, 2028 is only two years away. Be patient.

[PhantomSaiyan]

The fact that they've just announced one short arc doesn't make me hopeful that they're actually doing the entire anime, honestly...

Why not? It would make no sense to just do the first 2

[SupremeKai25]

That "roadmap" is fake AF.

The Tournament of Power most certainly DOESN'T need 40 episodes and it would be insane for Toei to make so many in the Remaster.

I'm guessing:

Universe 6 = 5 episodes

Future Trunks = 10 episodes

Tournament of Power = 20 (the original ToP lasts 35 episodes but it is INSANELY bloated with fodder fighters that nobody cares about and Krillin and the other losers in the stands constantly hogging the spotlight with their boring explanations... there is soooo much fat to trim)

[IntangibleFancy]

I really hope that as this goes on (after RoF), it becomes less of a remaster with some new additions here and there and more of a full remake. I want to see Vegito vs Zamasu fully redone.

[Xeogran]

New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

I'm expecting Moro close to 2028 myself, but thank goodness for Project Age. Even for non-gamers, it's gonna have lots of delicious info about the future of Dragon World much like DBO. And that's set for a 2027 release!

[Skar]

All of this definitely!
Always hated those stupid arguments that would be cooked up back in the day, defending Super's atrocious animation, art, sound design etc.
It was like insane troll arguments, completely refusing to listen to reason, because levelling criticism at the creators just means you are ungrateful and "hey look Z also had some bad animation some times!"

It really was the worst DB had ever looked until they started making amends in later arcs with fewer poorly animated scenes and then getting absolute peak in ToP.

Yeah it was frustrating. All those excuses go out the window when the studio itself is acknowledging there were problems and worked to fix them later in the series and now going to back fix earlier problems. If the studio felt the same way as those fans then they could've argued "well as long as it's only as bad as the absolute worst this franchise has ever produced then good enough!"

Somebody please tell me this is FAKE:



New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

The episode lengths for BoG-Champa seem possible but the original Future Trunks arc was around 20 episodes so they barely cut anything. I think the entire remaster might be closer to the fan Ultra Instinct recut which was around 60 episodes and could be shorter if they're reanimating some scenes.

[Noah]

It's fake but even if it wasn't, 2028 is only two years away. Be patient.

Not only that, but is an enhanced version beyond the first three arcs really necessary? Sure, the Future Trunks and Universe Survival arcs had a lot of fluff, but they still have decent to good animation. Damn, freaking cash grabbers.

want to see Vegito vs Zamasu fully redone.

Why? That fight was already ok.

New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

I'm expecting Moro close to 2028 myself, but thank goodness for Project Age. Even for non-gamers, it's gonna have lots of delicious info about the future of Dragon World much like DBO. And that's set for a 2027 release!

I forgot about that one, it seems we only will get actual info about this game in the next year. But, could he be Trunks's son? Even so, it would be better to have a main character to not be a Saiyan for a change.

Also, I can’t say that, if he really is Trunks’s son, I would not be annoyed that he can turn into a SSJ. For a long time, I had this headcanon that the transformation had something to do with genes, like Pan not being able to turn SSJ because she’s only 1/4 Saiyan, but then Goku Jr. (1/16) came along and completely ruined this for me lol

The episode lengths for BoG-Champa seem possible but the original Future Trunks arc was around 20 episodes so they barely cut anything. I think the entire remaster might be closer to the fan Ultra Instinct recut which was around 60 episodes and could be shorter if they're reanimating some scenes.

Well, for a ToP remaster, I’d love it if it were actually a 48-minute-long feature lol

[JulieYBM]

It's fake but even if it wasn't, 2028 is only two years away. Be patient.

Not only that, but is an enhanced version beyond the first three arcs really necessary? Sure, the Future Trunks and Universe Survival arcs had a lot of fluff, but they still have decent to good animation. Damn, freaking cash grabbers.

Nothing about Dragon Ball is necessary. If you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. Creating a Dragon Ball anime in 1984 was a cash grab, just as much as creating a manga was a cash grab.

[NeoZ Duwang]

Somebody please tell me this is FAKE:

Spoiler:

New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

This is definitely fake.

With that being said... I don't think this episode count is particularly unbelievable, even if I don't think we're getting that many episodes. We can't really say for sure how long it will be though, because we don't know exactly what their thought process will be when removing (or even adding) scenes with this remaster.

Sure, for Battle of Gods and Resurrection F it can be as """easy""" as looking at the movies, comparing them to their respective arcs and deciding what's worth keeping and what's just fluff that doesn't really add anything and wasn't a Toriyama contribution (something they're apparently keeping in mind).

But then... How do you do Goku Black? Or worse, the Tournament of Power? Sure, those arcs might have a lot of bloat, and the T.O.P definitely has no business lasting 55 episodes with how little story it actually has, but I don't know if the people responsible for this remaster think the same. Unlike the arcs that were adapted from movies, those were written for the anime and thus don't have a "fillerless" version (Toriyama's notes aren't a real story. You can't just remove everything that's not there and expect it to make sense). Maybe they will look at them, remove some particularly superfluous scenes and call it a day, or maybe they will do some serious streamlining, I don't know.

I'm not saying it's not possible to make a shorter cut of Super, especially with a project where they're apparently even animating new scenes and rewriting some things to be "closer to Toriyama's vision"? My point is that there is no way to know how long each arc will be until we can have a good idea of what type of stuff they're removing or adding for each of these story arcs.

[Hellspawn28]

I doubt DBS Broly is going to be skip over either. That will probably be six episode or so as well.

DBS Broly saga:

1. Origin of Broly on Planet Vegeta
2. Presdent Day
3. Goku and Vegeta vs. Broly fight
4. Goku and Vegeta learn fusion
5. Gogeta vs. Broly
6. Final

[IntangibleFancy]

Why? That fight was already ok.

It's okay but it could be better. I guess you could say that everything we've gotten since the anime's kind of spoiled me, if that makes sense. Like it's good for the DBS anime's standards, but underwhelming when you stack it up against Gogeta vs Broly, or all the fights in One Piece since Wano started, or the big fights in Daima.

I don't think every fight in this thing needs to be a seizure inducing sakuga fest, but if they're able to, I don't see anything wrong with redoing the bigger fights. I'd love some new attacks, fully redone (as opposed to edited) old ones, and better/more actual fighting than what we got.

[L3anD3RStar]

Where is Ajay posting his leaks? Is it twitter? I deleted twitter. Maybe I shouldn’t have deleted twitter.

[JulieYBM]

Somebody please tell me this is FAKE:

Spoiler:

New content only in 2028? What the actual F*CK!

This is definitely fake.

With that being said... I don't think this episode count is particularly unbelievable, even if I don't think we're getting that many episodes. We can't really say for sure how long it will be though, because we don't know exactly what their thought process will be when removing (or even adding) scenes with this remaster.

Sure, for Battle of Gods and Resurrection F it can be as """easy""" as looking at the movies, comparing them to their respective arcs and deciding what's worth keeping and what's just fluff that doesn't really add anything and wasn't a Toriyama contribution (something they're apparently keeping in mind).

But then... How do you do Goku Black? Or worse, the Tournament of Power? Sure, those arcs might have a lot of bloat, and the T.O.P definitely has no business lasting 55 episodes with how little story it actually has, but I don't know if the people responsible for this remaster think the same. Unlike the arcs that were adapted from movies, those were written for the anime and thus don't have a "fillerless" version (Toriyama's notes aren't a real story. You can't just remove everything that's not there and expect it to make sense). Maybe they will look at them, remove some particularly superfluous scenes and call it a day, or maybe they will do some serious streamlining, I don't know.

I'm not saying it's not possible to make a shorter cut of Super, especially with a project where they're apparently even animating new scenes and rewriting some things to be "closer to Toriyama's vision"? My point is that there is no way to know how long each arc will be until we can have a good idea of what type of stuff they're removing or adding for each of these story arcs.

Depending on how many cuts they are allowed to animate, it's actually not that hard to reorganize the Gokuu Black arc into any number of episodes. It would make for a really fun two hour thriller film if it could just be reanimated from scratch. Hopefully whatever happens with this enhanced version isn't hindeded by a lack of new shots to better tell the story.

[L3anD3RStar]

Depending on how many cuts they are allowed to animate, it's actually not that hard to reorganize the Gokuu Black arc into any number of episodes. It would make for a really fun two hour thriller film if it could just be reanimated from scratch. Hopefully whatever happens with this enhanced version isn't hindeded by a lack of new shots to better tell the story.

The most difficult part of Goku Black would be recapturing the mystery. The urgency of needing to figure out what the hell was going on, what happened to Goku, what are they going to do about it? Because just overpowering him doesn’t seem to be an option.

It would all be a matter of unraveling that mystery. How do you do that if the bad guy isn’t willing to just stand there and wait while you dart back and forth chasing down clues?

[TechExpert2021]

I wish they use a different title for the Super remake. Dragon Ball Shin Super would be a cool title to use.

How about something like "Dragon Ball Super Remake" or "Dragon Ball Super Reanimated"?

[JulieYBM]

Depending on how many cuts they are allowed to animate, it's actually not that hard to reorganize the Gokuu Black arc into any number of episodes. It would make for a really fun two hour thriller film if it could just be reanimated from scratch. Hopefully whatever happens with this enhanced version isn't hindeded by a lack of new shots to better tell the story.

The most difficult part of Goku Black would be recapturing the mystery. The urgency of needing to figure out what the hell was going on, what happened to Goku, what are they going to do about it? Because just overpowering him doesn’t seem to be an option.

It would all be a matter of unraveling that mystery. How do you do that if the bad guy isn’t willing to just stand there and wait while you dart back and forth chasing down clues?

Yeah, it really wouldn't be that hard. A lot of the key scenes of the two Zamasu's development work as-is, they just need to create new scenes to carefully bridge them together.