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Post by Skar » Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:40 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:55 pm My only real fear for the Tournament of Power arc is that they'll discard the best material that is original to the 2015 series in favor of trying to be like the comic, which I think would be a big disservice. With luck, they'll just add scenes that build up the anime-original stuff even better, like the Caulifla and Kale stuff.
The ToP had the best animation in Super so I assume it'll mostly be cutting down filler. I think the UI recut did a great job. It kept all the best moments while having about half as many episodes just removing filler, reaction scenes, and background fights that didn't really go anywhere.

I'm not sure what could be easily added from the manga since both versions cover the major plot points. The manga had Kefla fight Gohan but their fight against Goku in the anime was one of the best animated for the whole arc so I assume they would keep that. The manga had Kale eliminate a few fodder universes and Frost tricked into wasting his energy eliminating a universe so they might show some of that to save time and not have them eliminated one by one.

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JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:55 pm My only real fear for the Tournament of Power arc is that they'll discard the best material that is original to the 2015 series in favor of trying to be like the comic, which I think would be a big disservice. With luck, they'll just add scenes that build up the anime-original stuff even better, like the Caulifla and Kale stuff.
The ToP had the best animation in Super so I assume it'll mostly be cutting down filler. I think the UI recut did a great job. It kept all the best moments while having about half as many episodes just removing filler, reaction scenes, and background fights that didn't really go anywhere.

I'm not sure what could be easily added from the manga since both versions cover the major plot points. The manga had Kefla fight Gohan but their fight against Goku in the anime was one of the best animated for the whole arc so I assume they would keep that. The manga had Kale eliminate a few fodder universes and Frost tricked into wasting his energy eliminating a universe so they might show some of that to save time and not have them eliminated one by one.
Putting animation aside, the arc of the Kefla girls fighting Gokuu is kind of the big culmination of what they'd been doing the whole arc, so replacing that would just throw off the balance of their storyline. Adding in a fight with Gohan would be neat if it was used to bridge the fights with Gokuu together more thematically, but I'm not sure if the production would do that.
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Post by Jack Bz » Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:55 pm

I really really love Toriyama's SSJ4 illustration. It definitely puts it ahead of the original design now (I could never decide before which one I preferred). It's much better than the anime design sheet.

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Post by Skar » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:11 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:44 pmPutting animation aside, the arc of the Kefla girls fighting Gokuu is kind of the big culmination of what they'd been doing the whole arc, so replacing that would just throw off the balance of their storyline. Adding in a fight with Gohan would be neat if it was used to bridge the fights with Gokuu together more thematically, but I'm not sure if the production would do that.
Yeah that too. I don't recall them having many scenes in the manga or interacting with Goku. I think one of them was Toei's idea then Toriyama drew the other so he might not have had anything for them in the outline. If it's meant to be a more faithful adaptation then it probably would've be necessary to change anime exclusive scenes to something only from manga and never in outline.

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Post by Zephyr » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:12 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:39 pm Call me a cynic, but I can't say that I understand the logic in thinking that Daima was a replacement for Super when Daima was just a project that Toriyama took over working on while still working on Super. There was no way that Super wasn't going to continue to be the primary face of the franchise after how huge it was for both the Tournament of Power and the Broly film.
They recognize that the people want fight more than road. History repeats itself, for a third time. Start with an adventure story, before leading into battle stories, only this time on a meta-level rather than a narrative one...

...but what if it was also on a narrative level too? Maybe Super: Beerus will treat Daima as having happened, re-framing itself as a followup to it, with Daima as the "Pilaf arc" to its "21st Tenkaichi Budokai arc". Rebuild Super in a way that mirrors the original serialization. Could be neat! Too neat. There's no way that's happening.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:19 pm

Skar wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:11 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:44 pmPutting animation aside, the arc of the Kefla girls fighting Gokuu is kind of the big culmination of what they'd been doing the whole arc, so replacing that would just throw off the balance of their storyline. Adding in a fight with Gohan would be neat if it was used to bridge the fights with Gokuu together more thematically, but I'm not sure if the production would do that.
Yeah that too. I don't recall them having many scenes in the manga or interacting with Goku. I think one of them was Toei's idea then Toriyama drew the other so he might not have had anything for them in the outline. If it's meant to be a more faithful adaptation then it probably would've be necessary to change anime exclusive scenes to something only from manga and never in outline.
When the announcement refers to 'the original manga', I don't think it's referring to the Toyotarou manga that's been running since 2015. I think they mean the 1984 comic. While Toriyama oversaw Toyotarou's work, it still isn't part of his original drafts and therefore is no different than the 2015 anime.
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JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:39 pm Call me a cynic, but I can't say that I understand the logic in thinking that Daima was a replacement for Super when Daima was just a project that Toriyama took over working on while still working on Super. There was no way that Super wasn't going to continue to be the primary face of the franchise after how huge it was for both the Tournament of Power and the Broly film.
They recognize that the people want fight more than road. History repeats itself, for a third time.
The fact that they keep making really lackluster road stories doesn't help lol
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Post by WittyUsername » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:23 pm

Kale and Caulifla have far less significance in the manga compared to the anime. Caulifla learning to become Super Saiyan even happens offscreen in the manga. Also, the manga doesn’t give them that pseudo romantic friendship we see in the anime.

When it comes to Daima, I really hope the DBS remake or remaster or whatever it is don’t try to reference it. It simply isn’t compatible with the Super timeline. Just let it exist as its own thing.

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Post by The Dark Knight » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:29 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:23 pmWhen it comes to Daima, I really hope the DBS remake or remaster or whatever it is don’t try to reference it. It simply isn’t compatible with the Super timeline. Just let it exist as its own thing.
It can actually fit pretty well between Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, assuming they remove the line of Nahara and Kibito separating via a wish to Shenron from the U6 arc. They didn't start training with Whis yet, so that explains the lack of the SsjG and SsjB transformations. Vegeta just got a major boost against Beerus, so getting Ssj3 next makes sense. Ssj4 can be stated to require the magic of Neva to use, which opens the door for the tail and Ozaru being reintroduced later on. I personally don't think it'll be referenced, but if it is, this is one way of doing it.
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:31 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:23 pm Kale and Caulifla have far less significance in the manga compared to the anime. Caulifla learning to become Super Saiyan even happens offscreen in the manga. Also, the manga doesn’t give them that pseudo romantic friendship we see in the anime.

When it comes to Daima, I really hope the DBS remake or remaster or whatever it is don’t try to reference it. It simply isn’t compatible with the Super timeline. Just let it exist as its own thing.
They're making story changes for Dragon Ball Super's enhanced anime as it is, they might as well reference Daima. There's no real grand vision meant to specifically keep Daima and Super as separate things. The inconsistencies would have been directly addressed in interviews if they were more than Toriyama not realizing he was creating inconsistencies and the Daima production staff not changing his ideas to better fit Super.
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Post by super michael » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:36 pm

For those that knows about ki or chi, Caulifla explanation in how she unlocked SSJ make sense. Sometimes feeling energy in specific parts there is like a tingly feeling. However those that has no clue would think that is bad writing.

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Post by Skar » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:19 pmWhen the announcement refers to 'the original manga', I don't think it's referring to the Toyotarou manga that's been running since 2015. I think they mean the 1984 comic. While Toriyama oversaw Toyotarou's work, it still isn't part of his original drafts and therefore is no different than the 2015 anime.
I meant more faithful to Toriyama's outlines and the manga. They might add some manga only content that wasn't in the anime but maybe not the extra effort of reanimating existing anime scenes to use the manga version instead. I think by default this remaster is going to be more faithful just by cutting down filler while still leaving the best anime only scenes.

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Post by The Dark Knight » Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:53 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:19 pmWhen the announcement refers to 'the original manga', I don't think it's referring to the Toyotarou manga that's been running since 2015. I think they mean the 1984 comic. While Toriyama oversaw Toyotarou's work, it still isn't part of his original drafts and therefore is no different than the 2015 anime.
I totally agree. I think the goal here is to bring the tone and overall presentation of the story closer to what Toriyama's manga was back in the day, as well as its two anime adaptions in DB & DBZ. For one thing, there's talks going around that Goku's stupidity will be toned down; that alone justifies this remake. A better written Goku instantly solves a lot of the issues with the writing. The newly recorded dialogue will allow them to remove any inconsistencies in the scripts that resulted from the rushed schedule they were on, such as characters saying they're out of energy in one episode, only to fully power up int he next.

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Post by WittyUsername » Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:01 pm

The Dark Knight wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:29 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:23 pmWhen it comes to Daima, I really hope the DBS remake or remaster or whatever it is don’t try to reference it. It simply isn’t compatible with the Super timeline. Just let it exist as its own thing.
It can actually fit pretty well between Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, assuming they remove the line of Nahara and Kibito separating via a wish to Shenron from the U6 arc. They didn't start training with Whis yet, so that explains the lack of the SsjG and SsjB transformations. Vegeta just got a major boost against Beerus, so getting Ssj3 next makes sense. Ssj4 can be stated to require the magic of Neva to use, which opens the door for the tail and Ozaru being reintroduced later on. I personally don't think it'll be referenced, but if it is, this is one way of doing it.
That wouldn’t work either. Daima opens with the characters celebrating Trunks’ 9th birthday.

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JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:31 am
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:03 am Why do you want everything to be short? Having a short arc takes away the fun and thrill of wanting more. 26-40 episodes would be more ideal going forward.
Twelve standard-length episodes—thirteen if they want to go nuts with extra action cuts for the climax of the arc and fulfill a full three months without a break week—is a lot of time! That's over four hours to tell a story while keeping up the pacing, energy and tension and still have cool down moments. Good directors know how to make excellent use of a single cour, it's why there are so many good one cour anime out there.

40 episodes would be insane, especially for the Moro arc. Unless they're willing to do actual, genuine changes to the plot to give the characters arcs that change them and stick with them, there really isn't a reason to do fourteen hours of episodes.
I’m a bit of a traditionalist—I enjoy longer-running arcs like in original Dragon Ball. Beyond personal preference, I think producing more than 12–13 episodes per arc (even two cours) can absolutely work if you have a strong director who knows how to execute it well and keep each episode engaging.

Take OG Dragon Ball as an example. The Red Ribbon Army arc spans roughly 30 episodes, yet it never feels like wasted time. The director had room to play: Goku meets memorable side characters like Snow and Android 8, faces the army in varied environments, Commander Red’s looming presence, and the arc delivers genuine emotional moments—Bora’s death and Gohan’s surprise appearance really elevate it. That variety is what makes a longer arc worth watching.

For the Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc, I’d keep everything from the manga and expand on it rather than condense it. There’s a lot of untapped potential: build up the Grand Kaioshin vs. Moro conflict, explore how Kaioshin learned about Moro, give more background on the Galactic Patrol, and flesh out Moro’s history to make him more compelling. You could even add an episode or two focusing on Vegeta’s past sins and guilt, which would tie nicely into his character development going forward.

Trying to compress the Moro or Granolah arcs into a single cour really undersells them. These are story-driven arcs, not pure tournament-style fighting arcs like Universe 6 or the Tournament of Power. They benefit from breathing room, character work, and proper buildup—and that’s something longer arcs can still deliver when handled correctly.
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:26 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:09 pm I’m a bit of a traditionalist—I enjoy longer-running arcs like in original Dragon Ball. Beyond personal preference, I think producing more than 12–13 episodes per arc (even two cours) can absolutely work if you have a strong director who knows how to execute it well and keep each episode engaging.

Take OG Dragon Ball as an example. The Red Ribbon Army arc spans roughly 30 episodes, yet it never feels like wasted time. The director had room to play: Goku meets memorable side characters like Snow and Android 8, faces the army in varied environments, and the arc delivers genuine emotional moments—Bora’s death and Gohan’s surprise appearance really elevate it. That variety is what makes a longer arc worth watching.

For the Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc, I’d keep everything from the manga and expand on it rather than condense it. There’s a lot of untapped potential: build up the Grand Kaioshin vs. Moro conflict, explore how Kaioshin learned about Moro, give more background on the Galactic Patrol, and flesh out Moro’s history to make him more compelling. You could even add an episode or two focusing on Vegeta’s past sins and guilt, which would tie nicely into his character development going forward.

Trying to compress the Moro or Granolah arcs into a single cour really undersells them. These are story-driven arcs, not pure tournament-style fighting arcs like Universe 6 or the Tournament of Power. They benefit from breathing room, character work, and proper buildup—and that’s something longer arcs can still deliver when handled correctly.
Dragon Ball's long arcs in the comic are less about telling a story and more about selling magazines and other merchandise. The anime spread out adapting those same stories even longer because it also had to run endlessly. There is nothing being served by simply having a long episode count for the sake of it. Unless major character arcs not present in the story draft from Toriyama are written into the anime, spreading the story out over two or three cours is not going to create a good television series. Dragon Ball Daima was a clear example of this and my initial post that you objected to was based on the notion that the project is going to suffer from that lack of input from a director and writer other than what Capsule Corp Tokyo's Iyoku Akio approves and can parade Toriyama's corpse around to promote.

Assuming that the manga is being used as a base starting point for this animated adaption to draw from, rather than simply using whatever story document left behind by Toriyama might exist, the comic as-is does not require that many episodes to adapt. The story can be conveyed best without needlessly dragging out panels. The mediums are different and work differently—anime has sound and editing that help dictate how and when the audience receives a specific emotion or piece of information.

We don't even know what and specifical how the story is going to be yet. This shit's either going to be completely different from the manga or just like it. Either way, given Iyoku's record, I'm not confident he's going to allow the production crew the creative freedom to actually make two-plus cours justified. A single cour or even just one or two films would do better for the Moro story we see in the manga a lot better than twenty-six episodes would.
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Post by Skar » Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:50 pm

I think most modern anime adapt about 3-4 volumes every cour and varies depending on a chapter being slower and plot heavy or faster paced battle. I assume the Granolah arc for example would be shorter than Moro based on it having more battles one after another while Moro had more story and changing locations.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:58 pm

Skar wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:50 pm I think most modern anime adapt about 3-4 volumes every cour and varies depending on a chapter being slower and plot heavy or faster paced battle. I assume the Granolah arc for example would be shorter than Moro based on it having more battles one after another while Moro had more story and changing locations.
Yeah, they do typically cover three or four volumes a cour. That's anywhere from 51-69 pages an episode, depending on how the director wants to divide up the series. Given how much action there is in each chapter and how fast that plays when translated into an animated format, the 90-ish pages per episode really aren't that big a deal given how little dialogue there winds up being. Even then, they don't need to—nor do they always—copy the dialogue from the comic word-for-word. They can just make their scenes within each episode flow better with tweaks for efficiency and effect.
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Post by Vegard Aune » Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:15 pm

In theory, I would not be opposed to a retelling of Moro that delved more deeply into the Galactic Patrol stuff, maybe gave Merus some more down-to-earth moments where his growing affection for the human world is demonstrated, perhaps developing Moro's underlings more too so that they don't end up just feeling like bodies for the secondary leads to fight in gimmicky fights that don't actually affect the plot much, (and mind you, I actually enjoy some of those fights, but I absolutely cannot deny that they matter very little to the narrative) but... Yeah I don't see the current top brass of DB Anime actually doing that? It feels far more likely to me that they'll basically just adapt the manga panel for panel, making adjustments purely to hit that 21 minute mark and possibly to smooth out inconsistencies between Toyotaro's writing and what we saw before in the show? In which case... Yeah one cour please. That seems like a good length for what we saw in the manga.

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Post by Skar » Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:50 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:58 pmYeah, they do typically cover three or four volumes a cour. That's anywhere from 51-69 pages an episode, depending on how the director wants to divide up the series. Given how much action there is in each chapter and how fast that plays when translated into an animated format, the 90-ish pages per episode really aren't that big a deal given how little dialogue there winds up being. Even then, they don't need to—nor do they always—copy the dialogue from the comic word-for-word. They can just make their scenes within each episode flow better with tweaks for efficiency and effect.
I think it also depends on the release schedule since some seasonal anime or shows might slow down at some points to end the season on a conclusion of an arc or major battle. If they intend to a break after Moro then they might need it to last two cours or something. If Granolah is coming right after Moro then it wouldn't really matter and Moro could end at any number of episodes.

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Post by kemuri07 » Tue Jan 27, 2026 7:38 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:39 pm Call me a cynic, but I can't say that I understand the logic in thinking that Daima was a replacement for Super when Daima was just a project that Toriyama took over working on while still working on Super. There was no way that Super wasn't going to continue to be the primary face of the franchise after how huge it was for both the Tournament of Power and the Broly film.
I mean people were claiming that it was going to be the next arc of Super. It’s hype. It’s always hype. And I’m seeing that now as people are falling into that trap creating a version of this “remaster” that will assuredly disappoint people once it becomes clear that it’s likely not going to be that extensive.

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