GT: 100 Years Later TV Series

[PrinceVegetto]

I think a new TV series that continues the GT TV special could have potential.



We'd have new heroes emerge without constantly retreading old battles or recycling old villains and people wouldn't miss Goku or Vegeta because Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr are their carbon copies
The series could explore the mystery of Goku Jr.’s life. Why is he all alone with Pan? Where is the rest of the family?!!! So many questions

Also I watched Ending 2 to GT recently and it made me realize that we barely got any slice of life episodes in GT so if this were to ever happen I'd love to see more of that with the new generation




What do you think?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I'd love to see that, probably unlikely because TOEI wouldn't be able to slap Toriyama's name on to it but I've always wanted to see more of Goku Jr.

The end of GT also implies Goku and Vegeta's families became estranged because Pan doesn't know Bulma's descendant. That could be explored too and maybe work towards reconciliation.

[BernardoCairo]

I didn't really like the vibe of this special much. I don't know why, but it felt weird to watch.

[The Dark Knight]

In an ideal world, this would've been the sequel we got instead of Super. I would've kept the stories of Goku and his friends exclusively on the big screen, so the movies we got would remain as is. Super's main arcs and Daima would be released as movies instead of series arcs. The TV side of things would instead be used to explore uncharted territory, like a GT sequel starring Goku Jr., or an adaption of Dragon Ball Online.

[kiarasuraru]

I didn't really like the vibe of this special much. I don't know why, but it felt weird to watch.

It's just plain depressing. That's likely why.
Everyone you knew and loved? All dead. The characters who are long lived? All absent.
No one has descendants, no one left any legacy. Everyone and everything is forgotten.
Pan somehow lives in a common household, no one knows her, no one cares about her and is just treated as just some random granny. Being Satan's granddaughter and all its significance? Who's Satan?
Her grandkid, her seemingly only living remaining relative? An ungrateful crybaby little shit.
And that's without mentioning things from the GT's epilogue like how Goku and Bulma families don't even know each other anymore and how Saiyans have been completely forgotten to the point Vegeta Jr just calls Super Saiyan "turning blonde".

It's all stuff that no one ever thought about much too hard when making the thing, duh, but I've always hated what a depressing picture it painted for the world. Lonely would be another good way to describe it too.
It sure has a lot of "emotional" and "meaningful" moments, but nearly all of them crumble under three seconds of half-assed scrutiny. And all of these "emotional" and "meaningful" developments are very contradictory to Toriyama's works in general, too.
Just doesn't feel Dragon Ball in any way whatsoever. No, I don't care about how realistic it is for their families is to fall apart because it happens IRL too. No one's looking for that in Dragon Ball.

[JulieYBM]

The TV special isn't depressing enough. It should be less Toriyama-esque, to continually break Dragon Ball and defy it. The worst part of the special is that it comes at the cost of making Pan even weaker. In that respect, it is far too differential to societal and industry sexism and misogyny.

[Hellspawn28]

That ship has long sailed. If they were going to do a GT sequel, they would have done it by now. I think the GT TV special kinda sucks, with it being overly sappy. Goku Jr is super lame and was the school Goku before we had DBE Goku with him being weak and pick on by bullies. Plus, people will hate watching a show without the main cast. Besides Goku, everyone has been dead and no one would want to watch diet versions of both Goku & Vegeta.

I think Roshi, Dende, and Mr. Popo (maybe #17 and #18 as well) would be the only ones still alive. Not much you can do at this point.

[The Dark Knight]

It's just plain depressing. That's likely why.
Everyone you knew and loved? All dead. The characters who are long lived? All absent.
No one has descendants, no one left any legacy. Everyone and everything is forgotten.
Pan somehow lives in a common household, no one knows her, no one cares about her and is just treated as just some random granny. Being Satan's granddaughter and all its significance? Who's Satan?
Her grandkid, her seemingly only living remaining relative? An ungrateful crybaby little shit.
And that's without mentioning things from the GT's epilogue like how Goku and Bulma families don't even know each other anymore and how Saiyans have been completely forgotten to the point Vegeta Jr just calls Super Saiyan "turning blonde".

This is the kind of story Dragon Ball desperately needs right now; something that's actually different. I would take a story that's outside the box over another classic villain come back any day of the week. We can have the main story focus on Goku Jr and a mostly new cast, while flashbacks are used to show how everything ended up that way.

[Kenji]

That ship has long sailed. If they were going to do a GT sequel, they would have done it by now. I think the GT TV special kinda sucks, with it being overly sappy. Goku Jr is super lame and was the school Goku before we had DBE Goku with him being weak and pick on by bullies. Plus, people will hate watching a show without the main cast. Besides Goku, everyone has been dead and no one would want to watch diet versions of both Goku & Vegeta.

I think Roshi, Dende, and Mr. Popo (maybe #17 and #18 as well) would be the only ones still alive. Not much you can do at this point.

And somehow that would be worse than Goku and Vegeta endlessly "getting stronger" until the end of time?
This is a genuine question, by the way. Personally, the formula above is boring me the heck out and I would die for something original.

[BernardoCairo]

And somehow that would be worse than Goku and Vegeta endlessly "getting stronger" until the end of time?
This is a genuine question, by the way. Personally, the formula above is boring me the heck out and I would die for something original.

I would say yes. I don't oppose to Goku and Vegeta getting stronger and stronger. In fact, I wouldn't mind endless adventures like these. I like to see them as "DLCs" to the original story that ended in 1995, and I think, for the most part, they're fun.

It's just plain depressing. That's likely why. [...]

Yeah, I agree with you. In a way, it's an interesting approach to Dragon Ball, since it takes into account how things happen in real life. We are forgotten. Even future members of our own family will eventually forget about us, and the world will move on. But at the same time, it's not different enough from Dragon Ball to be considered a real deconstruction of the series. It's yet another Dragon Ball project trying to capture the magic of the first arc and missing the point, just like GT as a whole.
It's sad and that's all.

[Kenji]

To each their own, but I have long lost interest in seeing Ash Ketchum forever trapped in a 10-year old body trying to be a Pokémon Master. I would rather Dragon Ball not follow the same path and become a walking joke of how repetitive it is.

[kemuri07]

To each their own, but I have long lost interest in seeing Ash Ketchum forever trapped in a 10-year old body trying to be a Pokémon Master. I would rather Dragon Ball not follow the same path and become a walking joke of how repetitive it is.

I mean…hate to break it to ya but….


It already is.

[JulieYBM]

To each their own, but I have long lost interest in seeing Ash Ketchum forever trapped in a 10-year old body trying to be a Pokémon Master. I would rather Dragon Ball not follow the same path and become a walking joke of how repetitive it is.

Not really the best choice of words, given Satoshi has been in a series or film since March 2023 lol

The whole 'never ages' thing is definitely not how I operate as a writer myself, but the approach to Satoshi as a character was done very deliberately. Even then, it didn't stop the various Satoshi shows from having good development¹ for him in various eras.

¹Well, good for a show aimed at three year olds lol

[Skar]

To each their own, but I have long lost interest in seeing Ash Ketchum forever trapped in a 10-year old body trying to be a Pokémon Master. I would rather Dragon Ball not follow the same path and become a walking joke of how repetitive it is.

I don't think DB will ever reach that level. The passage of time has been slower in Super but it was still moving forward and getting closer to EoZ. We don't really know what they're going to do after Toriyama passed away but it won't be until maybe 2029 that we get any new content after the Super covers the Granolah arc. By then maybe one more manga arc or movie gets announced but overall content has slowed down. Even Heroes could've continued forever with the characters staying the same age due to time travel but it still ended.

[Hellspawn28]

People watch Dragon Ball for Goku and the other characters. You get rid of them and people will hate it.

[BernardoCairo]

Well, I don't think you can compare Dragon Ball to Pokémon in this case. Pokémon intentionally restarts the story several times over. Dragon Ball still has progression, and new content usually takes longer to be released, which I think helps a lot.

[JulieYBM]

Well, I don't think you can compare Dragon Ball to Pokémon in this case. Pokémon intentionally restarts the story several times over. Dragon Ball still has progression, and new content usually takes longer to be released, which I think helps a lot.

The anime maintains continuity between series, it’s just written in a way to avoid calling back to continuity post-Diamond & Pearl (until the 2019 series, at least). Obviously, this is something that Dragon Ball can do, but I doubt it will lol

[Koitsukai]

I don't think GT lacked slice of life episodes, I might remember it incorrectly, but I can recall several episodes where they were just chilling or doing non-heroic stuff.

[Zephyr]

I think a new TV series that continues the GT TV special could have potential.

We'd have new heroes emerge without constantly retreading old battles or recycling old villains and people wouldn't miss Goku or Vegeta because Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr are their carbon copies

Goku Jr. looks like a carbon copy of Goku, but that's where the similarities end.

On the topic of wanting something that doesn't retread old battles and recycle old villains, I think the GT staff are probably among the last people I'd be trusting to deliver it. Every major conflict in that show was about something from the past coming back. It was an inherently backwards-looking project, despite time moving forward and characters aging in-universe.

And somehow that would be worse than Goku and Vegeta endlessly "getting stronger" until the end of time?
This is a genuine question, by the way. Personally, the formula above is boring me the heck out and I would die for something original.

To each their own, but I have long lost interest in seeing Ash Ketchum forever trapped in a 10-year old body trying to be a Pokémon Master. I would rather Dragon Ball not follow the same path and become a walking joke of how repetitive it is.

Well, I don't think you can compare Dragon Ball to Pokémon in this case. Pokémon intentionally restarts the story several times over. Dragon Ball still has progression, and new content usually takes longer to be released, which I think helps a lot.

Dragon Ball's progression, unlike Pokemon's, is also firmly rooted in Daoist and Buddhist narrative and mythological traditions. Goku getting endlessly stronger demonstrates an understanding of the assignment, so to speak. I get that's not for everyone, but that is and has always been a very major part of what makes Dragon Ball what it is, just as much as wacky irreverent gag humor and problematically-honorable and competitive protagonists. When anyone expresses being turned off by these elements, I'm always amazed at how long they've been able to stick around with DB despite it being what it is. I don't fully get it, but I do respect it.

I guess one way in which Dragon Ball is kinda stagnating and getting repetitive, from the perspective of it being a kind of cultivation story, is that they're not really getting anymore weird with it like characters in those stories tend to. Like, I know Sun Wukong proper can literally shapeshift into animals. Meanwhile, we're effectively locked into Namek arc-era iconography and choreography as far as Goku's supernatural abilities go. Weirdest Goku's gotten is probably reading minds on Namek, which may have expanded in the Cell arc given how you interpret his knowing about Cell while recovering from the heart virus. But beyond that, yeah. After a certain point you either gotta get weirder with it or close the book already (again).

GT's epilogue and TV Special almost kind of get a little weird with Goku. Part of cultivation is becoming effectively immortal, which is why human human characters like Roshi are still around kicking at 300+ years of age, and why Tao Pai Pai was still around and not looking nearly as old as Roshi. So, Goku being around and still looking like he's in his prime after only a hundred years have passed honestly tracks, and is at least getting a bit weird with it. Of course, many people just speculate that it's the Elder Kaioshin's life extending his, or GT's ambiguous ending making it seem like some weird Shenlong shenanigans. But it's important to remember that those two options aren't even necessary when Goku's entire character arc revolves around just being that much of a savant at this shit. Another reason why DBO's lore of Goku just going and dying because he's starting to slump, after just another couple of decades, sits increasingly wrong with me. Massive misunderstanding of the assignment.

[JulieYBM]

Make Dragon Ball weirder?

It's time to make Gokuu and friends become women. And be bisexual.

And fight guys who also turn into women and be bisexual.

And hold hands.

And battle each other in insanely cheesecake positions.

And travel to new worlds where people experience emotions other than wanting to fight.