Is Post EoZ Content "Forbidden" Because of GT &/or EoZ serving as Toriyama's official epilogue?

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Re: Is Post EoZ Content "Forbidden" Because of GT &/or EoZ serving as Toriyama's official epilogue?

Post by Scsigs » Sat Feb 07, 2026 5:04 pm

super michael wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:55 pm What is stopping them from using the Dragon Balls to wish them young? The Z fighters became children in Daima and in GT Goku turned into a kid.

In DBS Super Hero and Broly movie Bulma uses the Dragon Balls for cosmetic use.
I mean, I don't really think that most of the characters care about getting older. Bulma does because she's petty & obsessed with her looks, but that's about it. It would also go against why Toriyama chose to age Goku up to 18 in the first place, which was to keep the story moving forward despite what his editors thought. It'd also give off why people think GT aging Goku back to being a kid was bad, it's a narrative step backwards in a series that otherwise kept moving forwards. Just letting the characters age would be a good idea.
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Post by Grimlock » Sat Feb 07, 2026 6:50 pm

Scsigs wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:42 pmAlso, the Tournament of Power happens a year before the end of the manga/Z, as Pan's 3 in the movie & at the end of the manga, she's 4.
So Bra went from a newborn in Universe Survival saga to a toddler in just one year?

Pan being three years old places Dragon Ball Super Super Hero in AGE 782, two years before the tournament, not just one year.

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Post by funrush » Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:34 pm

I think Toriyama just liked writing the characters at their Buu arc ages and didn't show a big desire to go into the time that GT takes place. We even see him go back to Buu arc AGAIN with Daima.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:56 pm

It's the weirdest thing that he didn’t just change how the characters look ten years after the battle with Majin Buu. "I changed my mind, sorry," is a simple enough explanation lol
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Re: Is Post EoZ Content "Forbidden" Because of GT &/or EoZ serving as Toriyama's official epilogue?

Post by Scsigs » Sun Feb 08, 2026 4:02 am

Grimlock wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 6:50 pm
Scsigs wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:42 pmAlso, the Tournament of Power happens a year before the end of the manga/Z, as Pan's 3 in the movie & at the end of the manga, she's 4.
So Bra went from a newborn in Universe Survival saga to a toddler in just one year?

Pan being three years old places Dragon Ball Super Super Hero in AGE 782, two years before the tournament, not just one year.
Shit. I meant Super Hero, not the Tournament of Power. I don't know why I said that one.

Wait. I thought that Pan was 4 in the end of the manga?

Ok, so fact checked. She IS 4 in the last few chapters of the manga, so I guess it takes place before whenever her birthday is that year.
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Post by GurixDr34 » Sun Feb 08, 2026 4:28 am

I have theorized that Super will end where Z ends with Goku taking Uub as his pupil and both saying goodbye to everyone to go train i would like the story to continue beyond the Z Manga but that ending would be great too honestly i doubt Dragon Ball will ever have a definitive ending again but i could be wrong

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Feb 08, 2026 5:25 am

GurixDr34 wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 4:28 am I have theorized that Super will end where Z ends with Goku taking Uub as his pupil and both saying goodbye to everyone to go train i would like the story to continue beyond the Z Manga but that ending would be great too honestly i doubt Dragon Ball will ever have a definitive ending again but i could be wrong
For me, it wouldn't make much sense for them to end Super at the end of Z unless it's to set up a new arc. Like if they were to do a new manga with a subtitle for a continuation of Super. Super Hero ends with Goku & Vegeta still training on Beerus' planet, Broly's a part of the ensemble cast now, Gohan unlocked Beast Mode, etc. There's just too many dangling plot threads & unfinished character things that Toriyama was doing for them to leave it hanging. I think that if they let Toyotaro have a crack at being showrunner, or at least in charge of the manga, he'd understand something about where to take things.
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Post by MCDaveG » Sun Feb 08, 2026 6:53 am

It might be a culture thing as well. I remember the infamous recasting in Saint Seiya during the Hades arc, because Kurumada reached the studio and deemed the staple actors too old to play teenagers.
There is this kind of discontent for too old characters. I guess that Dragon Ball is one of the few shonen titles woth probably the oldest protagonists in comparison.
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Re: Is Post EoZ Content "Forbidden" Because of GT &/or EoZ serving as Toriyama's official epilogue?

Post by Scsigs » Sun Feb 08, 2026 3:59 pm

MCDaveG wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 6:53 am It might be a culture thing as well. I remember the infamous recasting in Saint Seiya during the Hades arc, because Kurumada reached the studio and deemed the staple actors too old to play teenagers.
There is this kind of discontent for too old characters. I guess that Dragon Ball is one of the few shonen titles with probably the oldest protagonists in comparison.
This very much depends on the studios & the producers casting these things. Generally, a lot of them will have the original actors voice the characters as long as possible, the only exceptions being the actors being unavailable, dead, or possibly if a series is remade or rebooted from the ground up, giving them an excuse to recast. Like, Toei will generally keep as many actors as possible for their stuff until they physically can't do it anymore in their anime stuff (wanting to avoid live action stuff because, that's not true there), but then we have the studio behind Fullmetal Alchemist mixing up most of the voice cast for Brotherhood, or Square Enix keeping the Japanese voice cast of Final Fantasy VII the same as the compilation stuff, but recasting the entire English dub cast for the remake trilogy. So, it's clearly just a matter of perspective for them.
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Re: Is Post EoZ Content "Forbidden" Because of GT &/or EoZ serving as Toriyama's official epilogue?

Post by Grimlock » Sun Feb 08, 2026 9:53 pm

Scsigs wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 4:02 amWait. I thought that Pan was 4 in the end of the manga?

Ok, so fact checked. She IS 4 in the last few chapters of the manga, so I guess it takes place before whenever her birthday is that year.
Correct, she will turn five in that same year after the tournament.

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