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Post by Scsigs » Wed Dec 24, 2025 3:54 am

Hello. So, don't know if anyone here knows, but I have a few YouTube channels. And for 1 of them, I plan to start doing arc retrospectives for the series in a similar vein to MistareFusion and Totally Not Mark alongside other series over the next year for the 40th anniversary of the OG Dragon Ball anime. This thread is intended to document my reading through the manga for the first time (never done it) and rewatching the animes, including the TV shows, films, and specials.

A warning for those who prefer to adhere to the Japanese. For the most part, I don't care to do that with the names of the older movies and specials, mainly because most of the Japanese names are either really stupid, barely have anything to do with the stories or plots of the movies, or are too long to remember because Toei came up with the names of them before writing them. I will, thus, refer to them by their English dub names for simplicity's sake when talking about them, but will have them listed here in parenthesis. Funnily enough, the Trunks special's English name actually unintentionally adheres to the manga chapter the special's based on, Trunks: The Story this way. I also don't care for any of the filler from the original version of Z, so I'll be skipping over that in my arc numbers, though I'll be watching the small filler arcs that the Super anime does. However, I'll do a big video talking about it. I also intend to rewatch them all with the dubs, as I wanna do something that no one who does these retrospctives really does and that's discuss how the English dubs of these things developed over time to go from awful to actually really great in the present day (in before Totally Not Mark steals the idea) to put my own spin on this.

Here's my history of the franchise.
1. I've only watched the original DB anime all the way through once.
2. I've never watched Z all the way through (the only full arc I've watched from Z is Buu with some other episodes from earlier here and there).
3. I've watched all of Kai multiple times (my preferred way to watch Z due to cutting the majority of the filler and the better English dub).
4. I haven't seen GT all the way through, but have seen everything after the first 15 episodes a few times from when it ran on Toonami and on the DVDs.
5. I've watched most of Super before the Tournament of Power.
6. I need to see more of Daima, which, thankfully, Crunchyroll's putting out a Blu-Ray next month.
7. I've seen all of the Z and Super movies & specials, most of which I've watched multiple times, but haven't watched any of the 4 OG Dragon Ball movies.
8. I've seen all of Dragon Ball Z Abridged multiple times.
9. I've read a few chapters of the Saiyan arc of the manga and the first few chapters of the Super manga, nothing else, though. Never read the Jaco manga.

So, I'll be tracking my progress with this project, with the intent of discussing with those here interested and doing my retrospective content. I hope you guys will come along with me on this.

Progress:
OG Manga Arcs:
1. Emperor Pilaf Arc (Chapters 1-23, episodes 1-13) (Reading)
2. 21st Tenkaichi Budokai/World Tournament Arc (Chapters 24-54, DB episodes 14-28)
3. Red Ribbon Army Arc (Chapters 55-112, DB episodes 29-83)
4. 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai/World Tournament Arc (Chapters 113-134, DB episodes 84-101)
5. Piccolo Daimao Arc (Chapters 135-161, DB episodes 102-122)
6. 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai/World Tournament/Piccolo Jr. Arc (Chapters 162-194, DB episodes 123-153)
7. Saiyan Arc (Chapters 195-241, Z episodes 1-35, Kai 1-17)
8. Freeza Arc (Chapters 242-329, Z episodes 36-107, Kai 18-54)
9. Android/Artificial Humans Arc (Chapters 330-420, Z episodes 118-194, Kai 55-98)
10. Boo/Buu Arc (Chapters 421-519, Z episodes 200-291, Kai 99-167)

Movies:
DB:
1. Curse of the Blood Rubies (Legend of Shenlong)
2. Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle
3. Mystical Adventure (A Mystical Great Adventure)
4. Path to Power

Z:
1. Dead Zone (Dragon Ball Z/Return my Gohan)
2. The World's Strongest (The World's Strongest Guy)
3. Tree of Might (A Super Battle For the Whole Earth)
4. Lord Slug (Super Saiyan Son Goku)
5. Cooler's Revenge (The Incredible Strongest vs Strongest)
6. Return of Cooler (Clash!! 10,000,000,000 Powerful Warriors)
7. Super Android 13 (Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans)
8. Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan (Burn Up!! Hot Fight • Violent Fight • Super Fierce Fight)
9. Bojack Unbound (The Galaxy at the Brink!! The Super Incredible Guy)
10. Broly: the Second Coming (The Dangerous Duo! Super Warriors Can't Rest)
11. Bio Broly (Super-Warrior Defeat!! I’m the One Who’ll Win)
12. Fusion Reborn (The Rebirth of Fusion!! Goku and Vegeta)
13. Wrath of the Dragon (Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won’t Do it, Who Will?)

Z TV Specials:
1. Bardock: The Father of Goku (A Final, Solitary Battle: The Father of a Z-Warrior Son Gokū, Who Challenged Freeza)
2. History of Trunks (Defiance in the Face of Despair!! The Remaining Super-Warriors—Gohan and Trunks)

GT Arcs:
1. Black Star Dragon Balls Arc (Ultimate Dragon Balls Arc) (Episodes 1-16)
2. Baby Arc (Super Baby Arc) (Episodes 17-40)
A Hero's Legacy TV Special (Goku’s Side Story! The Proof of his Courage is the Four-Star Ball)
3. Super 17 Arc (Super No. 17 Arc) (Episodes 41-47)
4. Shadow Dragons Arc (Evil Dragons Arc) (Episodes 48-64)

Dragonball Evolution

Super Arcs:
1. Battle of Gods Arc (Z Movie 14, chapters 1-4, episodes 1-14)
2. Resurrection F Arc (Z Movie 15, incomplete special manga given away at Japanese screenings of the movie, episodes 15-27)
3. Universe 6 Arc (Chapters 5-13, episodes 28-41)
4. Future Trunks Arc (Chapters 14-26, episodes 47-76)
5. Tournament of Power Arc (Chapters 27-42, episodes 77-131)
DBS Movie 1: Broly
6. Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc (Chapters 42-67)
7. Granolah the Survivor Arc (Chaoters 68-87)
8. High School Arc (Chapters 88-90)
9. Super Hero Arc (DBS movie 2, Chapters 91-104)

Jaco The Galactic Patrolman (Chapters 1-12)

Daima (Episodes 1-20)

Don't know if I'll cover Heroes, but I kinda want to since no one's ever talked about the manga version of that ever as far as I can tell and it's been translated into English by fans. The most brainrot part of the franchise by a longshot, but I wanna explore it eventually. In before Totally Not Mark steals the idea or does it first.

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Post by Scsigs » Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 am

Began scripting my Dragon Ball retrospective series & the intro has me going on for a few minutes on how much I don't like the OG Z dub. So, it's going well.
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Post by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 26, 2025 2:36 am

I'm really looking forward to this; I love these kinds of long-term retrospectives. :D I just got done watching both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, so I'll share my thoughts as well as you go on.

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:00 am

The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 2:36 am I'm really looking forward to this; I love these kinds of long-term retrospectives. :D I just got done watching both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, so I'll share my thoughts as well as you go on.
With Seed of Might finally releasing their magnum opus in the color corrected DBZ episodes, I definitely look forward to cracking into the first 3 arcs of the original Z anime. I also would like to do an in-depth comparison series on the differences between Z & Kai as well. It'll be an interesting journey. I'll also be watching & reading the DB shows & manga in proper production order, which I've never done before. And with full color corrected DBox masters & the Blu-Ray rips from Japan, this'll be a great experience.
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Post by The Dark Knight » Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:05 am

Scsigs wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:00 amWith Seed of Might finally releasing their magnum opus in the color corrected DBZ episodes, I definitely look forward to cracking into the first 3 arcs of the original Z anime. I also would like to do an in-depth comparison series on the differences between Z & Kai as well. It'll be an interesting journey. I'll also be watching & reading the DB shows & manga in proper production order, which I've never done before. And with full color corrected DBox masters & the Blu-Ray rips from Japan, this'll be a great experience.
Someone on Youtube said that they'll be releasing the color corrected versions of the original 17 movies sometime next year, as what they put out last year (or was it this year ?) was a white balance edition. It's nice to finally have the classic series and movies properly remastered, especially after decades of failed "official" releases.

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:45 am

The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:05 am Someone on Youtube said that they'll be releasing the color corrected versions of the original 17 movies sometime next year, as what they put out last year (or was it this year ?) was a white balance edition. It's nice to finally have the classic series and movies properly remastered, especially after decades of failed "official" releases.
Well, that's good. I wonder how much of a difference a full color correction would make, though, considering the biggest problem with Toei's remasters of the original 17 movies & the last 2 Super movies is the white balance still being set for movie theaters & not adjusted for home TVs for no reason. Even previewing the white balanced versions of the movies, they look great since they're still remastered from the first gen film stock Toei put them on back in the 80s & 90s.
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Post by Scsigs » Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:40 am

Adding this here as a resource. I completely forgot that Viz has weird or dumb translation choices for some things for no reason.
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Post by Scsigs » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 am

So, sorry for not updating this thread for a few months. I'm starting to rewatch the Super anime & skim the manga to do videos on what they may be doing for the recut of Super: Beerus & speculate on what they could do for future arc recuts. Currently up to episode 4.

The line art in this episode is really inconsistent. It constantly switches between really thick & really thin with no rhyme or reason. Just...why?

Also, I really don't like 'Chozetsu Dynamic.' I have no idea why it was chosen as the theme song, but it's extremely mid. Not bad, just not what I'd pick for DB.

I also don't understand why Gregory's in the anime if it's supposed to be a continuation of the manga's version of events.

And, I also don't get why they changed Bulma's part from being at Capsule Corp to a cruise ship. Always seemed like a needless change to me.

Episode 5. Geez. Even with the shots they corrected for the home releases, this episode's still a mess when it comes to animation.

Episode 6. Why did they use the Earth from the real world in an establishing shot rather than the one from Dragon Ball? You can easily see North & South America on it. :wtf:
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Post by The Dark Knight » Fri Feb 13, 2026 5:23 am

Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amI'm starting to rewatch the Super anime...
you have my condolences. :cry:
Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amCurrently up to episode 4. The line art in this episode is really inconsistent. It constantly switches between really thick & really thin with no rhyme or reason. Just...why?
The belief online is that the wanted it to have a more cartoonish feel to it due to Pilaf being the focus, but I have no idea if that's true or not.
Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amI really don't like 'Chozetsu Dynamic.' I have no idea why it was chosen as the theme song, but it's extremely mid. Not bad, just not what I'd pick for DB.
The songs used in modern Dragon Ball as a whole are pretty average; nothing bad, but nothing that stands out and says "this is DB" like the classic eras.
Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amI also don't understand why Gregory's in the anime if it's supposed to be a continuation of the manga's version of events.
They were never really consistent with this being a follow up to the manga or anime.
Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amI also don't get why they changed Bulma's part from being at Capsule Corp to a cruise ship. Always seemed like a needless change to me.
The open seas were easier to animate, which is something they needed due to the time crunch they were on.
Scsigs wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:04 amEpisode 5. Geez. Even with the shots they corrected for the home releases, this episode's still a mess when it comes to animation.
I expect major parts of this to be reanimated from the ground up in the remake; there's just very little that can be salvaged.

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Post by Scsigs » Fri Feb 13, 2026 2:24 pm

The Dark Knight wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 5:23 am you have my condolences. :cry:
It's not too bad. I actually like most of Super. And, it's weird, at least the earlier episodes have the character writing pretty fine with characters like Goku, though they're inconsistent on Vegeta. It's only with the next arc that they started to flanderize Goku's immaturity.
The belief online is that the wanted it to have a more cartoonish feel to it due to Pilaf being the focus, but I have no idea if that's true or not.
That doesn't really make much sense since it's only for the 1 scene with the Pilaf gang, then randomly a few shots later on that aren't with them. If that was the intent, they weren't consistent with it.
The songs used in modern Dragon Ball as a whole are pretty average; nothing bad, but nothing that stands out and says "this is DB" like the classic eras.
I disagree. I've loved 'Dragon Soul' & 'Limit Break x Survivor.' Even the first Heroes theme song, I really liked. And I'd say Daima's theme song was good for the show. Even the 2 Kai: The Final Chapters theme songs are pretty good. 'Cho Zetsu Dynamic' is just an outlier of blandness.
They were never really consistent with this being a follow up to the manga or anime.
I mean, maybe, but Battle of Gods didn't have Gregory in it, iirc, & neither does the manga's version of the arc, so they added him when they didn't need to.
The open seas were easier to animate, which is something they needed due to the time crunch they were on.
I mean, sure, but the manga also set it on the cruise ship. I wonder if they went to Toriyama for the idea. It'd explain why Toyotaro also used it.
I expect major parts of this to be reanimated from the ground up in the remake; there's just very little that can be salvaged.
From the shots they've shown in the trailer, they're going to be reusing more than you might be expecting. A lot's going to be just touched up & made to look better while some shots are going to be reanimated to either be closer to the movie, or maybe even smooth over where they made content cuts that weren't too smooth. As well as to add elements from the manga. Like, I expect them to add the cameos of Champa & Vados from the manga for instance.
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Post by Scsigs » Fri Apr 10, 2026 7:45 pm

Ok, so in light of the recent resurgence of the Z VS Kai dub discussions on Twitter, I decided to take a deep dive into the FUNimation English dubs & really analyze how the dubs (at least the earlier ones from 20+ years ago before FUNi got better with it) changed perceptions around the original material of the shows, specials, & films from DB, Z, & GT. Kai, I also plan to take a deep dive into, but because I've already watched it sever times over, I know that there's not nearly as many changes in the dialogue to really matter outside of the odd change here & there that make no sense. I'm taking notes on the major dub line changes that either eliminate certain details from the Japanese dialogue, change character personalities, or alter the way scenes are meant to be taken in any way that makes it substantially enough different from the Japanese dialogue. I'm largely ignoring small dialogue tweaks, as I've seen thus far that not a lot of it really matters since most of the important stuff from the Japanese dialogue is retained, it's just not said in the same places and they just add on to what was already there. I WILL note additional lines that actively color the perception of things in ways not intended by the Japanese dialogue as outlined by the subtitles for the Japanese audio, however.

So, I started with the Z TV specials & films. I rewatched the specials first because I can't be fucked to slot them between the movies they came out in between. It also doesn't really matter too too much since I'm analyzing stuff as it was dubbed out of order anyways, so I think grouping the specials together is fine since I'm grouping the first 13 Z films together as well. These are also just the changes I clocked rewatching these as opposed to offering a lot of opinions on them, as I'm currently writing a video script outlinine those outside of a few things.

Bardock: The Father of Goku
Name changes:
For no reason I can fathom, they changed Bardock’s team members’ names in the dub. Toma (a pun on Tomatoes) became Tora, Selypa (an anagram of Parsley) became Fasha, Totapo (an anagram of Potato) became Borgos, and Pumbukin (a pun on Pumpkin) became Shugesh. In case you guys can’t tell why these are stupid name changes, all Saiyan birth names are puns on Vegetables. Why FUNimation felt the need to change them, I have no idea because they completely break the naming scheme in English so much so that Team Four Star reverted their names in DBZA.

Notable dialogue changes:
The first notable change is how the alien that gives Bardock psychic powers is scripted more like he’s evil rather than an innocent victim of their attack for some reason.

The next is how Vegeta says to Nappa that they’ll soon be free of Freeza’s control rather than just wanting a new assignment so he can get stronger.

When Vegeta comes into the room Freeza’s in, he demands a new assignment rather than paying his respects to him before leaving for a new one he’s already been assigned.

The dub leaves out the mention that Bardock’s power level is 10,000. I’m unsure whether this is a good or bad change though. It loses points for accuracy, but also leaves out a plot hole where Bardock is about as powerful as Nappa and Vegeta are in the Saiyan Arc and we’re supposed to believe he’s a lower-class warrior. Though, the original dialogue and the dub’s dialogue do try to justify the number by saying he always comes back badly damaged from his missions, which hints that the near-death power-up the Saiyans have is what’s responsible for it.

A dub-induced plot hole where Bardock says Goku gained the ability to see the future as well to explain his crying is added when Bardock’s healing in the chamber for some reason. This, in my opinion, was the script writers over-thinking this scene and feeling the need to explain this.

Dialogue that’s a repeating of what the Kanassan said when giving Bardock the psychic powers is replaced by Bardock wondering why he’s having weird visions that’s mostly footage from the original Dragon Ball.

Bardock’s dialogue insulting the scientists is replaced and him calling Goku scum in the original Japanese is replaced with toned down dialogue.

Dialogue of Toma telling Bardock Freeza’s going to kill all the Saiyans is replaced with lines of him telling Bardock that Freeza’s going to kill him specifically because he’s afraid of how strong Bardock himself is going to get instead.

Dialogue is added of Bardock cursing Freeza and his men, ruining the intended mood of this scene where Bardock isn’t supposed to talk, but just act.

Flash-forwards of parts of grown up Vegeta and Goku’s fight in the Saiyan Arc are still the original recordings from when this special was dubbed in 2001 rather than being the recordings from the redub of the episode they pulled it from, or even rerecordings of the lines as presented here. I only mention this because they rerecorded parts of the dialogue for when they rereleased this special in 2008 with the actors from after it was dubbed originally and Chris Sabat was still doing his Brian Drummond impression as Vegeta rather than the deeper voice he developed for the character that he redubbed his earlier performances in Z in 2005 with that ended up on the Orange Bricks in 2007.

Bardock finally coming to terms with Freeza coming after the Saiyans is replaced with him saying his squadmates were stronger than Freeza’s elites, he’ll get revenge for then, and he’ll meet them again sooner or later.

Dialogue is inserted over Freeza rather than him just remaining mute and having Dodoria wonder what’s wrong before Zarbon explains to him that Bardock didn’t die from his attack.

Freeza’s dialogue to Dodoria telling him not to worry about Bardock is changed to more outright villainous dialogue berating him before switching back to the intended tone of more affably evil. This removes a bit of subtlety in the dialogue where they keep it a bit ambiguous as to what’s going to happen. Zarbon even has a changed line that says what he’s going to do and Freeza confirming it.

Dialogue is added where Bardock outright states that he can read Freeza’s mind instead of him just wondering why Freeza’s on route to Planet Vegeta.

Freeza’s line about hoping the fireworks are pretty from what he’s about to do to Planet Vegeta is instead replaced with him admiring the planet’s color and how apparently rare it is as a planet.

Bardock’s revelation about the visions of the future he’s had being real is kept basically the same, but is ruined by earlier added or changed dialogue showing he understood that he had these powers already.

Dialogue that’s another repeat of what the Kanassan said to Bardock is instead rewritten to be as if he’s speaking to him from beyond the grave with added dialogue from Bardock. The main reason for pointing this out is that it was intended to be Bardock remembering the words and them coming back to haunt him whereas in the dub, due to the inflection the Kanassan is speaking with, it comes off more like he’s toying with him.

Dialogue of Bardock saying he’ll stop Freeza himself is replaced with him saying he’ll get help to do it.

Dialogue is changed with the Saiyans in the bar to where they start laughing before they’re shown to be just from Bardock collapsing on the floor rather than them being confused about what’s going on.

Bardock telling everyone that Freeza’s going to kill every Saiyan is missing prior context due to changed dialogue from Dodoria, so it comes right out of nowhere.

Bardock cursing out the other Saiyans has toned down lines.

The vision Bardock gets of future Planet Namek has added dialogue of him having a conversation with Goku where there was none. This doesn’t even make any sense to be happening either. It also makes the message of not being a bad person less subtle by having Goku clearly state it.

Dialogue is added for Freeza to know Bardock’s after him specifically even though Bardock didn’t yell his name in the dub or sub.

Dialogue is added so Freeza threatens Zarbon instead of just leaving it more subtle and having Zarbon just in fear of his rage.

For some reason, rather than Freeza’s soldiers being surprised and in fear of him coming out of his ship, they added lines of them praising him instead.

Instead of Bardock making a triumphant last stand monologue towards Freeza, he instead says the Saiyans don’t work for him anymore, though the shots make it look like he’s talking about his soldiers too.

Bardock shows remorse for killing all the people he killed in Freeza’s name when he launches his Riot Javelin at him in added dialogue.

Bardock exposits that Goku will defeat Freeza rather than just saying his name and letting the visuals and his smile speak for themselves.

Rather than comment on the fireworks the planet’s making, Freeza instead comments on how wonderful of a show it is.

Bardock’s last lines to Goku are changed to reference the added dialogue Goku said in his vision of it not being too late to change from earlier and that he wished he could’ve held him in his arms rather than telling him to carry out his will and avenge the Saiyans.

Vegeta’s apparent lack of emotional reaction to Planet Vegeta is kept, but his line about doing more missions for Freeza is omitted for some reason.

History of Trunks:
Oddities:
Despite being on the same disc as the Bardock special, the audio track for the English dub with Japanese music doesn’t have ‘Cha-La Head Cha-La’ as the opening music for some reason, only the generic Rock track that got used for the movies and show. This also carries over to the remastered releases of the movies and Z series that FUNimation put out in the late 2000s and early 2010s for some reason, except on the Dragon Boxes where they made it and 'We Gotta Power' the opening music once again.

Because they hadn’t cast Kyle Hebert as older Gohan when they dubbed this special yet, Dameon Clarke, the voice of Cell, voices Future Gohan here. Even in the remastered version of the dub put together for the 2008 reissue of the special where they had him redub Ox-King and the narrator. Future dubs of Super and the video games, as well as the games made before this remastered release would have Hebert play Future Gohan.

In at least the 5.1 dub track with the Japanese music, the narrator’s dialogue is put at a volume slightly lower than the music and sound effects for some reason. This also carries over to other dialogue.

Notable dialogue changes:
Instead of Oolong saying that the Androids are far away, he talks about how he’s gonna go into Kame House for a food run.

Instead of Oolong reminding Roshi of how the others were killed by the Androids, they instead beg him to stay because they need him.

Dialogue is added where 18 tells 17 the clothing store guy gave her the clothes for free and that she has a good figure. I have no idea why this was added, as 17 doing it out of nowhere is meant to be shocking and this kinda takes away from it and somewhat colors how you see 17 due to it being conceivable that they intended to to be 17 being a protective brother of 18 rather than him being a cold-blooded murderer.

Dialogue is added to Bulma telling Trunks to not go fight the Androids, losing the surprise of what he’s about to do.

Instead of Trunks saying that his father’s blood of the warrior race the Saiyans running through his veins is replaced with him appealing to Gohan’s half-Saiyan nature instead.

Instead of Gohan becoming Trunks’ mentor being implied in the dialogue until Trunks confirms it, Gohan outright states it in the dub.

Instead of Bulma being happy to see her son and Gohan, she’s instead rewritten and voice acted by Tiffany Vollmer to be more angry at them than the Japanese dialogue called for. While, yes, she has a line showing that she doesn’t want them doing anything dangerous, it’s supposed to come up at the end of this exchange before the eyecatch.

Instead of Bulma saying she doesn’t get as much of the food she’d want anymore, she reminisces on going to Namek with Gohan.

Instead of saying “Thanks for the food” like any other mention of “itadakimasu,” Gohan and Trunks both yell “Chew Attack!” for some reason.

Dialogue is added where Trunks is mad at Gohan for just watching him fight the current rather than helping him out, only for Trunks to get over it, making me wonder why it’s even here at all. There’s also dialogue where Trunks says “So much for the royal treatment” even though he begged Gohan to train him, so he accepted whatever Gohan’s training regimen was going to be.

Instead of Ox-King talking about another city getting destroyed, they instead have him talk about the food he got Chichi.

While Chichi’s dialogue is still about wanting Gohan to come home, the instances of her saying he’d be a scientist by now and her not caring about the Androids is cut.

Gohan tries to get Trunks angry by reminding him of a specific instance we previously didn’t know about involving some kids rather than him just saying to use his anger, as it’s a Saiyan’s greatest weapon.

The dub removes a mention of a military presence in the next city, which is why the people feel safe enough to go to the amusement park for some reason. There’s a mention of the town militia, but it’s not made clear that this is why people are at the park.

An instance of 18 knowing Gohan’s hair can turn blonde is added to her dialogue. While, yes, it’s established in the Japanese version that he’s fought them before, this just isn’t in the Japanese dialogue.

An instance of 17 being mad that 18 interfered in his fight with Gohan is replaced with him being surprised at Gohan being fired up for some reason.

Instead of Bulma pulling the rug out from Trunks and telling him how she knew what they were doing, the dub instead plays it as she obviously knows what they’re doing and Trunks plays dumb for some reason, even though the jig’s clearly up, before she just outright states it. I have no idea what purpose this change serves, as it also gets rid of an early hint at Bulma’s time machine.

Instead of having Trunks have a short internal monologue to himself, they have Gohan try to get him angry by having him speak off-screen and even on-screen even though his mouth doesn’t move.

During Gohan telling Trunks what motivated him to turn Super Saiyan, they leave out the mention of him having Vegeta’s blood in his veins, which should help him reach it sooner or later.

The dub adds needless dialogue to Trunks discovering Gohan’s body rather than him just saying Gohan’s name over and over in shock.

For some reason, the dub turns the dialogue between an older Trunks and Bulma talking about how the Time Machine will take him back to the past and how it took 8 months to charge it into one where Trunks doubts it’s gonna work and Bulma tells him it will. I don’t know what purpose this change served. I guess it was maybe to go along with Trunks saying he doesn’t need to go to the past because he’s strong enough to take on the Androids alone, but it’s still odd.

Instead of Bulma saying matter-of-factly what Trunks is going to do when he goes back in time, she instead tells him that he doesn’t know if he still has his arms or legs under his blanket, which also cuts out a mention of Goku’s heart virus.

Bulma addressed Trunks as “Trunks Brief” for some reason. This wasn’t in the Japanese dialogue and is, unfortunately, part of a misinterpretation of the Dragon Ball world where no one except the Son family have surnames and FUNimation just assumed Bulma’s family name was Briefs because her father’s name is Dr. Briefs.

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