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[Yellow Flower King]

Seriously. What Trump is doing is NOT OK. AT ALL.

[Hellspawn28]

We have millennials (1983-1996) working in politics now which they are using 90s and 00s nostalgia for shit. ICE used Halo, Lord of the Rings, and the movie The Patriot (2000) for propaganda.

[PhantomSaiyan]

Seriously. What Trump is doing is NOT OK. AT ALL.

Multiple thing can be true at once though.

Obviously Trump is insane, and what he's doing is fucked up. But it's also true that iranians (some of whom I also had the pleasure to speak personally to) are genuinely happy and celebrating the result of Trump's actions, and the death of their dictator, both the ones that live there, and the ones that moved overseas precisely to escape that government.

Did he do it for good reasons? Obviously not. Did he go about it in the best way possible? Definitely not. Will this fix all of Iran's problems? Most likely no, big chance of whoever coming next being just as bad or even worse. But are iranians happy? Yes they are, there is hope for a better government now, for more freedom.

And don't misinterpret this as a Trump defense because I can't stand the guy's politics, or the very concept of America being the world's police, but this situation is more nuanced than just "Trump bad" (and again, I agree with the anti Trunp sentiment)
Sometimes horrible people, in their quest to do horrible things, can inadvertently end up having a positive effect for some, like it happened here.

[Yellow Flower King]

To be honest, I was scared because my long ass other post kept looking like I supported TRUMP and I dont want that implication. I hope things turn out okay for the world. Iran, USA, Any country. No more war.

Also Kaiba of all characters explicitly turned his father's war machine company and turned it into a gaming company. He was explicitly disgusted with war and everything to do with it, and Kazuki Takahashi had this as is one redeeming trait.

[PhantomSaiyan]

To be honest, I was scared because my long ass other post kept looking like I supported TRUMP and I dont want that implication. I hope things turn out okay for the world. Iran, USA, Any country. No more war.

100% agree man, I hope so too. The situation in the world is way too tense right now

[WittyUsername]

Serious question: when was the last time America deposing a foreign dictator actually worked out for the better? It sure as hell didn’t work when George W. Bush tried it.

[JulieYBM]

Serious question: when was the last time America deposing a foreign dictator actually worked out for the better? It sure as hell didn’t work when George W. Bush tried it.

I know that I'm preaching to the choir, but: America only does this shit to line the pockets of wealthy businessmen and/or for Christian nationalism zealots. This is never about the common person.

[Kid Buu]

Serious question: when was the last time America deposing a foreign dictator actually worked out for the better? It sure as hell didn’t work when George W. Bush tried it.

I suppose you could say Germany and Japan are better off thanks to US influence, but different context there.

[johnboy1]

I suppose you could say Germany and Japan are better off thanks to US influence, but different context there.

Yeah, I was gonna say that WW2 was probably the last time, and even with that story ending in overall success there are a few black marks (nuclear weapons, massive avoidable civilian casualties in both Germany and Japan, etc.). Maybe Korea, depending on what you think might have happened if the North gained control of the entire peninsula. After THAT, it's all bad ideas outside of the first Gulf War, which was pretty much a unanimous decision among western nations rather than just American adventurism.

[Hellspawn28]

Serious question: when was the last time America deposing a foreign dictator actually worked out for the better? It sure as hell didn’t work when George W. Bush tried it.

Probably never.

[Tian]

Obviously Trump is insane, and what he's doing is fucked up. But it's also true that iranians (some of whom I also had the pleasure to speak personally to) are genuinely happy and celebrating the result of Trump's actions, and the death of their dictator, both the ones that live there, and the ones that moved overseas precisely to escape that government.

Did he do it for good reasons? Obviously not. Did he go about it in the best way possible? Definitely not. Will this fix all of Iran's problems? Most likely no, big chance of whoever coming next being just as bad or even worse. But are iranians happy? Yes they are, there is hope for a better government now, for more freedom.

Something similar happens in Venezuela. Venezuelans are glad that Maduro is finally gone but they still have uncertainty about what to expect in the future. Will they be completely free for once and all? Or will they be under another oppresive regime?

And don't misinterpret this as a Trump defense because I can't stand the guy's politics, or the very concept of America being the world's police, but this situation is more nuanced than just "Trump bad" (and again, I agree with the anti Trunp sentiment)
Sometimes horrible people, in their quest to do horrible things, can inadvertently end up having a positive effect for some, like it happened here.

I don't approve Trump's military operation in Venezuela but a reasonable and democratic solution has already been tried before and unfortunately, it failed.

[jjgp1112]

Stop letting y'allselves fall for Jord's shameless bait.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Seriously. What Trump is doing is NOT OK. AT ALL.

Multiple thing can be true at once though.

Obviously Trump is insane, and what he's doing is fucked up. But it's also true that iranians (some of whom I also had the pleasure to speak personally to) are genuinely happy and celebrating the result of Trump's actions, and the death of their dictator, both the ones that live there, and the ones that moved overseas precisely to escape that government.

Did he do it for good reasons? Obviously not. Did he go about it in the best way possible? Definitely not. Will this fix all of Iran's problems? Most likely no, big chance of whoever coming next being just as bad or even worse. But are iranians happy? Yes they are, there is hope for a better government now, for more freedom.

And don't misinterpret this as a Trump defense because I can't stand the guy's politics, or the very concept of America being the world's police, but this situation is more nuanced than just "Trump bad" (and again, I agree with the anti Trunp sentiment)
Sometimes horrible people, in their quest to do horrible things, can inadvertently end up having a positive effect for some, like it happened here.

I would argue the Iran situation is setting an even worse precedent for the US. Trump supporters voted him in knowing he was a convicted felon, so sadly it seems there are those who will stand by him no matter what, and because the Epstein files haven't all been released for all we know he's probably done even more shady things.

[The Dark Knight]

I would argue the Iran situation is setting an even worse precedent for the US. Trump supporters voted him in knowing he was a convicted felon, so sadly it seems there are those who will stand by him no matter what, and because the Epstein files haven't all been released for all we know he's probably done even more shady things.

The support for war within Trump's base went from 40-50% before the war, to now over 80%; there's nothing he can do that will get them to turn on him. As for the Epstein files, they've made it clear that it's no longer a concern of theirs, as has the right wing media. Fact of the matter is, there's nothing Trump specifically, or the Republican party in general, can do to get their base to disagree and turn on them. In fact, the Republican base is getting even more radicalized, as Dan Crenshaw lost his primary to someone even further to the right than he is. What makes all this so bad for the country, and dangerous for the rest of the world, is that the Republican base is by far the most motivated to vote, with their media machine being the most organized. It would be nice if the left could get their act together, but at this point, I think we all know that's not happening.

[JulieYBM]

The US left faced the uphill battle of two major political parties (both the Republican and Democratic parties), big tech, and all the money in the world specifically being focused on keeping regular people propagandized against left-wing ideas and keeping organizing damned near impossible. Things are improving, but it's happening slowly and on grass-roots levels.

[The Dark Knight]

The US left faced the uphill battle of two major political parties (both the Republican and Democratic parties), big tech, and all the money in the world specifically being focused on keeping regular people propagandized against left-wing ideas and keeping organizing damned near impossible. Things are improving, but it's happening slowly and on grass-roots levels.

The Democratic party, whether intentionally or not, are putting out candidates who are basically diet MAGA, which is resulting in a big section of Democratic voters and even left leaning independents sitting out elections. Gavin Newsom is a borderline Republican at this point, yet that's who the party is pushing as their front runner for 2028 ? Who do they think this guy is going to win over ? Progressives aren't on board with him, left leaning moderates may or may not go out to vote for him, and Republicans would never vote for a democrat. Say what you want about Trump and Republicans, but they always cater to their base, which has resulted in unprecedented successes over the past decade. Unless the Democratic party drops this "we need to reach across the aisle" bullshit they've been on these past 10 years and actually get behind a real left leaning person, they'll never see the inside of the White House again.

[Yellow Flower King]

Welp. USA has bombed Oil Sources. No dictators there.

[JulieYBM]

The US left faced the uphill battle of two major political parties (both the Republican and Democratic parties), big tech, and all the money in the world specifically being focused on keeping regular people propagandized against left-wing ideas and keeping organizing damned near impossible. Things are improving, but it's happening slowly and on grass-roots levels.

The Democratic party, whether intentionally or not, are putting out candidates who are basically diet MAGA, which is resulting in a big section of Democratic voters and even left leaning independents sitting out elections. Gavin Newsom is a borderline Republican at this point, yet that's who the party is pushing as their front runner for 2028 ? Who do they think this guy is going to win over ? Progressives aren't on board with him, left leaning moderates may or may not go out to vote for him, and Republicans would never vote for a democrat. Say what you want about Trump and Republicans, but they always cater to their base, which has resulted in unprecedented successes over the past decade. Unless the Democratic party drops this "we need to reach across the aisle" bullshit they've been on these past 10 years and actually get behind a real left leaning person, they'll never see the inside of the White House again.

It's intentional. The Dems are not stupid, they're maintaining a system geared towards moving as far right as possible because it's what they are paid to do and it is the world that they believe in. They'll call themselves the enlightened centrists, but the thing about centrism is that it always inevitably slides right.

The Democratic party is not going to stop fascism, they are going to continue to slap a nice face on it because they know that it will just get Republicans reelected. The back-and-forth is how they keep the death cult killing.

[Metalwario64]

Yeah... it's been that way since the 90s with Clinton and "triangulation"... but it went into overdrive with Citizens United.

[WittyUsername]

Democrats are not “diet MAGA” and they’re not trying to help Republicans win. That makes no sense.