Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

Post by Sensiblesaiyans » Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm

I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.

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Post by Yellow Flower King » Thu Apr 02, 2026 9:12 pm

Long answer: No with a decillion "O"

Short answer: No, it is an absolutely slap in the face of art. Lets just AI for scientific and medical purposes and art to actual humans.

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 02, 2026 10:21 pm

Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
You've been psyop'd to think that the only way to make television and film is in the image of wealthy studios dedicated to controlling the production of all culture so as to extract profit from everything humanly possible.

Indie filmmakers exist for a reason. Indie artists and writers (hi) exist for a reason! We want to create art and that does not require AI at all.

Go watch one of Gregg Araki's early films, that man made The Living End (1992) and Totally F***ed Up (1993) with nothing but friends and his own creativity way back when you couldn't get real funding for queer cinema by-and-for queer people and that was back when he shot on film! Back before you could shoot a movie digitally in 4K on your phone!

There are also plenty of good manga and anime that get adapted into live action films and series if you actually look at works produced in Japan. Hell, even the Hollywood adaption of One Piece is a hell of a lot better than it has any right to be.
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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

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JulieYBM wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 10:21 pm
Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
You've been psyop'd to think that the only way to make television and film is in the image of wealthy studios dedicated to controlling the production of all culture so as to extract profit from everything humanly possible.

Indie filmmakers exist for a reason. Indie artists and writers (hi) exist for a reason! We want to create art and that does not require AI at all.

Go watch one of Gregg Araki's early films, that man made The Living End (1992) and Totally F***ed Up (1993) with nothing but friends and his own creativity way back when you couldn't get real funding for queer cinema by-and-for queer people and that was back when he shot on film! Back before you could shoot a movie digitally in 4K on your phone!

There are also plenty of good manga and anime that get adapted into live action films and series if you actually look at works produced in Japan. Hell, even the Hollywood adaption of One Piece is a hell of a lot better than it has any right to be.
You misunderstand. Yes Indie film makers exist, but with financial restrictions of the film makers, things like film location, casting choice, VFX graphics will always make the final project look less polish than Hollywood films and in many ways restrict the overall vision that the artist may have wanted for the project. Even ambitious youtube series like Machinima in the past tried to make web series of popular games but couldn't continue past more than 1 to 2 seasons due to financial burden, actors schedule conflict, paying of actors and location choices.

With AI in place, a lot of these things goes away and the financial entry is lowered for people that may have a great script in their head but lack certain things to help realize it into movie/short clip or tv show. All the films you mention, while I don't doubt are great films, could be enhance further with AI which can allow more of the artist vision to be realized.

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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:38 am

Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
Is the Sensible part supposed to be ironic?

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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

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MasenkoHA wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:38 am
Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
Is the Sensible part supposed to be ironic?
You don't need to start getting personal because you dislike someone views. AI is getting more advance each year, and what was once shorts with barely any movement has now evolved into 5 minute clips with complex movements of AI generated actors. AI reduces cost, money, location and physical limitations when it comes to casting. For the last part, let me give you an example. Say I have a script/fan fiction for the comic character Absolute Batman that I would like to make into a live action film. The first major difficulty that I'm going to have is finding an actor that has the right physical build (aka both extremely tall and muscular) that can act well as batman. With AI improving, eventually both of these limitations are going to be eliminated. In addition, people who have great ideas for shows/movies but are restricted by money, not being able to find/afford the right actors, unable to afford props, stunt doubles, unable to find the ideal locations to tell their story, will eventually be able to bypass all of this through AI. I think a lot of people have been psyop by global elites to hate AI because those people want to have near total control of what you can watch on TV/cinema.

Again I bring it back to DB: Evolution vs a group of fans being able to use AI to make a dragon ball movie based off a story that they made. There is still the human aspect of creation in there but now the barrier and limitations that prevented people from bringing their story to life is eventually going to go away with AI.

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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

Post by Kenji » Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:44 am

Even taking out the fact AI steals someone's voice/face/soul without their consent and regurgitates some ugly-as-shit results, it also eats a shit-ton of natural resources and destroys the environment. No fucking way is destroying the planet supposed to be acceptable for the sake of human entertainment.

I don't give a shit about your sob story about not being able to compete with some rich asshole, your project using AI is a dead giveaway that your "art" is soulless and you're not a person worth listening to, no matter what kind of "great ideas" you can come up with. A child drawing a Batman story with stick figures and crayons is a far better work of art than yours.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Apr 03, 2026 10:26 am

Just give artists the money to not need to worry about selling their art to live. All artists will naturally improve from there.
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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Apr 04, 2026 1:30 am

I’m not gonna weigh in on the ethical debates surrounding AI, but what I can say is that AI generated voices are inherently creepy to me and the Banana Fish dub sounds like absolute crap, so nah, I’m good.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Apr 04, 2026 5:16 am

Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
Brother what in the hell are you talking about? The global elites are the one PUSHING AI in the first place! They want it because it means less people they have to pay and less time to spend so they can put less effort into slop made for an increasingly less discerning audience. And if you don't think that the tools that could be used to make a full-on AI movie wouldn't be held behind a colossal paywall that a regular Thomas, Richard or Harold couldn't afford, then I have a Snake Way to sell you. And besides that, this democratized utopia of AI art you have in your head wouldn't make it past five cease & desists.

And one thing that has become abundantly clear from a lot of these AI projects I see pop up is...it's levels to this shit. A lot of folks really aren't that good at being creative, it's a skill or rather a variety of skills, and AI has exposed that because it's enabled uncreative or at least creatively-lacking people to pump out the nuggets of gold in their head that they aren't aware are actually nuggets of dogshit. The professionals are the professionals and the amateurs are the amateurs for a reason.
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Post by Sensiblesaiyans » Sat Apr 04, 2026 6:05 am

jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 5:16 am
Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
Brother what in the hell are you talking about? The global elites are the one PUSHING AI in the first place! They want it because it means less people they have to pay and less time to spend so they can put less effort into slop made for an increasingly less discerning audience. And if you don't think that the tools that could be used to make a full-on AI movie wouldn't be held behind a colossal paywall that a regular Thomas, Richard or Harold couldn't afford, then I have a Snake Way to sell you. And besides that, this democratized utopia of AI art you have in your head wouldn't make it past five cease & desists.

And one thing that has become abundantly clear from a lot of these AI projects I see pop up is...it's levels to this shit. A lot of folks really aren't that good at being creative, it's a skill or rather a variety of skills, and AI has exposed that because it's enabled uncreative or at least creatively-lacking people to pump out the nuggets of gold in their head that they aren't aware are actually nuggets of dogshit. The professionals are the professionals and the amateurs are the amateurs for a reason.
AI is a tool like any other that can be used for good or bad. Global elites will use it to cut cost but that's already the goal and nature of any corporations as a whole. So using the claim that AI is going to be the sole cause of that is just a strawman. We have already seen that despite many countries having high % of unemployment's, people are still struggling to get jobs, with many college graduates spending years at home. In addition, many corporations are choosing to hire foreign nationals for cheaper wages over hiring locals. This whole fear of AI is just like how people feared every new invention that came out and signaled the doom of society. In short, humans as a species are still monkeys that fear change and the unknown. Humans will rationalize for why any change should not come about and often try to use moral outrage to make their argument convincing. For example, people claim of caring about the artist when people don't care that their clothes, cars and jewelry are from exploitation of the poor in 3rd world countries or even use of child soldiers.

AI while being a dangerous tool that can be used for good or bad. For example, I've seen many AI vids which shows what a fictional characters would look like in real life. This can be used as a tool right now to help casting for live action version of a fictional character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtMsmDysBD4

And I've previously pointed out, AI will eventually provide freedom to the consumer to make their own TV show/movies. We have already seen how small time youtube channels (with no corporate affiliation) are able to improve upon AI on their own. Assuming that AI is allowed to continue to develop on a free market then I can eventually see it giving consumers the freedom to make shows/movies that they want to see rather than what hollywood force feeds them.

Lastly, people claim that all AI is slop or filth is really disingenuous. This can be seen with Nvidia games utilizing AI to make games look more realistic. Anyone that's not bias and see side by side comparison can clearly see that AI improved a lot of these games but because it's AI people will just claim it looks bad.

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Post by Kenji » Sat Apr 04, 2026 8:27 am

Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 6:05 am Humans will rationalize for why any change should not come about and often try to use moral outrage to make their argument convincing. For example, people claim of caring about the artist when people don't care that their clothes, cars and jewelry are from exploitation of the poor in 3rd world countries or even use of child soldiers.
I don't know about you, but several of the people I know are against using fossil-fuel powered cars, jewelry, and even chocolate, coffee, soap and clothing if they are not produced by local small businesses who source their material from ethical sources. None of us buy uber-processed mega-corp shit if we can avoid it.

Also, several of the people I know are heavily against ultra-realism in gaming for not only making resource consumption heavier and AAA titles inaccessible and low performant even on powerful machines, but also because they look bland and generic as fuck.

None of this comes from "fear of the unknown," it comes from knowing exactly what we're buying and the consequences of it:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/0 ... s-00317582

"Make thing prettier and the planet worse for everyone" is not a good cause, no matter how you spin it.

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Re: Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

Post by Yellow Flower King » Sat Apr 04, 2026 10:25 am

jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 5:16 am
Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:05 pm I feel like people have been psyop to hate AI because the powers that be (global elites - e.g. Hollywood execs) hate the idea of creative control and freedom being available to the masses. Imagine if movies/tv shows/ads could be made at a professional level by anyone that has a bit of creativity. People who have the creativity but lack other areas (drawing skills, lack of physical cast, money) Would now be able to make the project that they want without having to compromise or alter things to appease their investors.

Example- Look at how many live action anime shows that get adapted into TV shows/movies and end up being horrible. The reason they are horrible has to do with the execs/director/writers not really being fans of the franchise and banking on people to come and watch said crappy tv show/movie just base on fan loyalty to the brand. Now imagine if an actual group of fans could create a top quality, tv show/movie, through the use of AI, that they otherwise wouldn't be able to due to lack of money or drawing skills.
Brother what in the hell are you talking about? The global elites are the one PUSHING AI in the first place! They want it because it means less people they have to pay and less time to spend so they can put less effort into slop made for an increasingly less discerning audience. And if you don't think that the tools that could be used to make a full-on AI movie wouldn't be held behind a colossal paywall that a regular Thomas, Richard or Harold couldn't afford, then I have a Snake Way to sell you. And besides that, this democratized utopia of AI art you have in your head wouldn't make it past five cease & desists.

And one thing that has become abundantly clear from a lot of these AI projects I see pop up is...it's levels to this shit. A lot of folks really aren't that good at being creative, it's a skill or rather a variety of skills, and AI has exposed that because it's enabled uncreative or at least creatively-lacking people to pump out the nuggets of gold in their head that they aren't aware are actually nuggets of dogshit. The professionals are the professionals and the amateurs are the amateurs for a reason.
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Post by LostTimeLord » Mon Apr 06, 2026 4:03 pm

So here's a 'fun' side effect of YouTube making AutoDubbing opt-out instead of opt-in: the official English One Piece YouTube channel hasn't disabled it, so Google is 'helpfully' AI-dubbing the clips they upload from English into seven other languages. For example: NEP 1, NEP 2 (same compilation, but only two of the NEPs have characters actually talking). And, hilariously, most of their uploads have Japanese audio flagged as English, so the AutoDubs just remove the dialogue and don't replace it with anything.

And I think it says so much about these fad AI apps/features. The fact that so many channels are clearly unaware that it's been switched on, the fact that these 'dubs' are usually incomprehensible, the fact that Toei almost certainly has actual German/French/etc dubs for those NEPs anyway, the fact that I had to actively disable auto-dubbing on my channel but I'm still not allowed to upload my own dubbed audio tracks.

As far as I can see, AI and machine learning are more effective at automating the things that we already automate, like how Into the Spider-Verse used machine learning to improve the cel shading on the 3D characters (using training data drawn by the artists working on the film). But the tech industry has so utterly overhyped their glorified chatbots that everyone else is convinced that AI is not only 'the only way forward', but also... witchcraft or something. No one was enough of a lunatic to suggest using Siri or Microsoft Sam as a character voice unless it was a literal joke that the audience was supposed to recognise (...like Magetta in Super). But make text-to-speech slightly better and slap the word AI on it, and it must be good enough because it's AI and AI is the future.

For a platform like YouTube, AutoDubbing is almost a good idea. If they took half-decent translated subtitles, and simply had text-to-speech read that over the original audio track as a sort-of 'auto-voiceover', then they might have a useful accessibility feature for very small/non-commercial channels. Obviously the bigger channels can (and should) afford actors and/or voice-over artists to provide that, to say nothing of businesses as big as Crunchyroll and Toei. So, err, no. I would not like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub.
Sensiblesaiyans wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:09 am Say I have a script/fan fiction for the comic character Absolute Batman that I would like to make into a live action film. The first major difficulty that I'm going to have is finding an actor that has the right physical build (aka both extremely tall and muscular) that can act well as batman. With AI improving, eventually both of these limitations are going to be eliminated.
The idea of directly translating an idea directly into a video is appealing, but the technology just doesn't work. It has inherent limitations that additional training data can't solve, to say nothing of the ethical and environmental issues involved. There's no continuity for starters; if an object is divided visually, then it'll be treated as two different objects because the AI software doesn't have any sense of the physical space that it's drawing. Plus, the more specific you prompt, the worse the results get. It probably knows what Batman is, because images of Batman are all over the internet, but I doubt it's trained well enough to differentiate 'Absolute Batman' from, say, the Adam West one. Even in those AI coke ads, the number of animals we follow changes from shot to shot because they can't convincingly generate more than one shot with continuity between them; or, apparently, get usable results when asking for a specific number of squirrels/seals/[insert festive animal here]s.

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Post by Tian » Mon Apr 06, 2026 5:16 pm

Yellow Flower King wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:59 pm Mexico has declared AI will not be used on dubbing or voice acting.
I wish Venezuela did the same but unfortunately, VC Medios (a Venezuelan dubbing studio that mainly works with History Channel) started producing dubs with a weird mix of talented and experimented human actors and crappy and annoying AI generated voices.
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