"Dragon Ball Xenoverse 3" Official Discussion Thread

[miguelnuva1]

Sorry if I missed this but are we only playing at the new guy or are we going to be able to still create characters and different races? I know not everyone wants to be a saiyan.

[Zinnia]

Daima and GT being spoken about in the same breath, put together into the same category, in that one interview thing is super funny.

Game devs don't dictate the canon. I remember before Kakarot released it's entire hype period was that Toriyama worked closely with them too, and in the end we just got plot holes and the game having characters like Mira & Towa who have never been spoken about in canon, or 21 living in Bulma's lab which is just lol

[comicstar100]

I don't like CAC's turning into main characters from the show mid fight. I am wondering if picking the characters from the show outside of the new soul change ability is out the window for Xenoverse 3? To be fair, I generally didn't pick any main characters to play as over my created character in Xenoverse 2.

No ki charge is interesting. Instead special moves appear to be on a timer.

At first I thought we might be stuck in West City with no time travel. But in the demo they are clearly back in time fighting Broly in the artic during the Super movie.

While I don't like the Soul change ability; I did like the couple summons types attacks I saw with main characters showing up to help with a single blast during boss fights.

The main thing I'm still wanting to see is what new races are avaliable. I've heard Kai's and Bio Android's, but I can't find anything to confirm that.

[Zinnia]

I am wondering if picking the characters from the show outside of the new soul change ability is out the window for Xenoverse 3? To be fair, I generally didn't pick any main characters to play as over my created character in Xenoverse 2.

Well I certainly did, and with the characters now having BETTER graphics than in XV2, surely I would want to pick them out more. Soul Change better not replace the VS mode because it's not even a good compromise.

[MCDaveG]

Hmm, looks definitely better than the decade plus old XV2, but I can't shake off this gimmicky and empty feeling I had from the trailer.
It reminds me a lot of Super Heroes Galaxy Mission visually and even the fights kinda look like the card bouts from the game.
Hard to explain, but the best word I can find is "impactless".
Still having the benefit of a doubt tho. I have avoided Kakarot for year and half with my friend over-recommending it to me for the whole time before I got it and I did enjoy a hell out of both DB and EOZ Budokai and Trunks DLCs. If the overall content and story will be exciting enough, I might get XV3 someday in the future. At this moment, yawn.

They should go harder, then just invent a new "hub" through which you can recycle the same old stories and characters.
I did enjoy Sparking Zero what if branching way more than whatever XV series threw at us, except for the novelty of Mira, Towa and Demigra in the first XV.

[Grimlock]

No ki charge is interesting. Instead special moves appear to be on a timer.

General MMORPG/Dragon Ball Online feelings with that one. I wonder if there will be more mechanics from that genre implemented.

Game devs don't dictate the canon. (...) the game having characters like Mira & Towa who have never been spoken about in canon, or 21 living in Bulma's lab which is just lol

Fans don't dictate it either.

[comicstar100]

I am wondering if picking the characters from the show outside of the new soul change ability is out the window for Xenoverse 3? To be fair, I generally didn't pick any main characters to play as over my created character in Xenoverse 2.

Well I certainly did, and with the characters now having BETTER graphics than in XV2, surely I would want to pick them out more. Soul Change better not replace the VS mode because it's not even a good compromise.

I think you will probably be okay. A lot of the DLC for Xenoverse 2 was just adding more characters to VS mode. I can't see them walking away from that kind of cash.

The main question I have is who are the new races we can pick from? Every DLC pack 2 ever had I was hoping we would get a new playable race and it never happened for a decade.

Also please dont make us restart the story mode every time we create a new character anymore. I liked to make multiple but everytime I heard Trunks say "attention proud warriors" I was like okay I'm gonna head out.

[kiarasuraru]

Daima and GT being spoken about in the same breath, put together into the same category, in that one interview thing is super funny.

Game devs don't dictate the canon. I remember before Kakarot released it's entire hype period was that Toriyama worked closely with them too, and in the end we just got plot holes and the game having characters like Mira & Towa who have never been spoken about in canon, or 21 living in Bulma's lab which is just lol

They certainly don't.
But whoever are the ones telling them to follow a certain framework are. And guess why they're telling the game devs to use one particular specific entry as the base?
And if I want to spicy and use THAT card, since the man was still alive back then, there's a reason why Toriyama went with that one too.
If one particular thing is always put on the forefront, used as the base as I said, and the others are always put on a different category, as extra/side content...

[Trouser]

Gameplay and some info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyCbZyD7XnU

[angeldreamZ004]

I really like what we saw so far, there are still a bunch of things I would like to see but I believe they’ll eventually show them, the marketing for this has just begun.
Graphics really appeal to me, though I would like for the maps and overall landscapes to be less “cartoon plain” and more like Sparking Zero, but I'm fine with the way they look. The characters and animations really good too, they feel more cinematic and facial expressions improved a lot.

Liked the new world, locations and characters, very interested to see the story and curious, the series characters during the soul change activation have a Capsule Corp halo over them, so I wonder if there's really something from the genuine characters there (as the trailer suggested) or it's just some sort of “AI technology” created to copy them.
It's important to note too that it was said that Toriyama was also involved in working with the Soul change, with some relation to documents, so these hitodamas may be addressed in the plot, which I'm interested to see as well.

I still can't see or feel anything that relates to DBOnline though with the exception of it taking place in Age 1000, Piccolo still being around, which are not necessarily references, and the obvious elements brought from XV1 that were inspired by DBO, and it was said they are not using DBO as inspiration, but Toriyama's ideas for this game, which could have elements from DBO, but also not.
Only saying this because I still see many people saying that it's probably going to take inspiration from DBO, something I still haven't seen so far.

I don't like how it seems to not feature anything from Pre-Raditz though, what I see is mostly Raditz-Boo with a bit of Super only, so that's kinda worrying, and Hirano was vague about including Pilaf-Majunior content.

I can see them aiming to making this into a reboot of the series, by saying multiple times that it's meant to be a “new experience” and the latest trailer starting with Shenlong calling for the main character, just like XV1.

I absolutely loathe the idea of the "turn into another character" mechanic, wtf's the point of that? What's the point of our character then? To feel like even more of an empty shell?

I feel like your OC morphing into characters from the original series feels unnecessarily gimmicky. You already use the moves from the characters of the original story; why would you need to completely change your appearance as well when you're doing some of their techniques? Feels like putting a hat on top of another hat.

I'd assume the developers want people to use the Main Cast more

But we use them anyway in free matches and online matches, there was no need to shoehorn this mechanic in, all it does is lessen our playable character

It seems to me that Soul change is meant to be an exclusive mechanic made for Earthling characters only, and by consequence, the way they likely found to make Earthling characters more interesting to use.
I say this because the official site talks about “Awakening Technique” as if it was something exclusive to the other races, including Saiyajins, whose awakening technique is the Super Saiyajin transformation, and it's also said other races will have their own transformation as well.
An Earthling, the character chosen for the demo, can not transform, so their equivalent for Awakening Technique would be, I believe, this Soul change mechanic.
Obviously, this makes us remember about The Breakers and its Transphere mechanic, it was the same thing, we only play as earthlings in that game and we transform into the series characters to fight. In XV3 it seemed to me that it makes the character a lot stronger, when the character becomes Trunks, the damage dealt to Broly is a lot bigger. So they very likely borrowed it from DBTB (which pretty much confirms a not-so-popular theory that one of the reasons DBTB was made was that it could help Dimps to develop the assets for XV3, such as the hair actually changing in SSJ forms)

I know many people may dislike the idea, but I personally liked it, I think it's a good way to not only convince more people to create earthling characters (if it's indeed going to be a earthling exclusive mechanic) but also a way to make the series characters somehow playable in story mode, which is something I believe many would like to see and we don't have in XV 1 & 2, where they are playable in VS mode and Parallel Quests only.

The only bad side I see for this, is that it may make the fighting style customization feel less special when compared to the other races, like a few of you said.

Hirano refused to answer some deeper questions regarding this Soul change mechanic, such as being able to have it as any other character or only having a set of characters available for that.

Turning into your mentor for a bit is such an odd choice when you already use their move sets and fighting styles.

It's not the mentor system, the mentor apparently is meant to be Vegeta (Saiyajin arc) seen in the gameplay helping the character to make the Galick Ho, while Trunks is just the character for the soul change mechanic. It seems that it will coexist with the mentor system, as both Vegeta and Trunks are seen in the player's room in different places and it was not said that Soul Change is going to work like the Mentor system or replace it. It seems the Vegeta seen so far can be both a mentor and a soul change character, may be the same for other characters.

I'm not even sure he's gonna be customizable since he was designed by Toriyama

Sorry if I missed this but are we only playing at the new guy or are we going to be able to still create characters and different races? I know not everyone wants to be a saiyan.

There will be customization for sure, it was confirmed that it will be even more complex than the previous game, and we see a lot of different custom characters in the trailer already. The characters are limited for the two Toriyama designs for the demo only. The 5 races have been confirmed, though only Earthlings, Saiyajins, Freeza and Majin Boo races were seen during the mission, you can also see Namekuseijins in the world, so they are definitely returning as well.

The lack of Goku in the marketing so far is refreshing and commendable.

Likely because they are making a mystery in regards to his role in the story, something a lot of fans already speculate since the reveal trailer (and his possible new clothing). Similar to how they refuse to talk about Bulma's presence. I believe they may start showing Goku more in a few months.

There is a chance the game may not even have a character select screen to use them...

Yeah, I think that's a possibility too, it would be a downgrade for sure, but if we think that this could be a strategy for them to make people who want to play as the series characters, buy Sparking Zero, which is the VS focused game…
But they could also simply stay in XV2 for that, so I think it's most likely just they way they found to make the series characters somewhat playable in story mode.

The main thing I'm still wanting to see is what new races are avaliable. I've heard Kai's and Bio Android's, but I can't find anything to confirm that.

Nothing has been confirmed indeed, at best, Hirano only said that new races are still to be determined, and the new character Rom, clearly doesn't belong to any of the 5 races we are used to in the series, so she may be our current hint that we may get at least one new race, demon maybe, or maybe she's just a unique character, who knows.

[Bardock God of Time]

It seems to me that Soul change is meant to be an exclusive mechanic made for Earthling characters only, and by consequence, the way they likely found to make Earthling characters more interesting to use.
I say this because the official site talks about “Awakening Technique” as if it was something exclusive to the other races, including Saiyajins, whose awakening technique is the Super Saiyajin transformation, and it's also said other races will have their own transformation as well.

John 1000 uses it too and he's a Saiyan

[angeldreamZ004]

You're right that the male character designed by Toriyama is seen using the mechanic as well, but is he really meant to be a Saiyajin only? I don't recall that being confirmed, it could be a Earthling character as well and they just made a montage in the latest trailer to make it seem like it's the Saiyajin race the entire time.
But if not, it's strange then, I thought it could be the Earthling unique transformation because the official site says that each race will have their own transformation (or "Awakening Technique")
I wonder if Earthlings are excluded from this, since it's suggested that they don't have awakening technique? Then what is going to make them feel special if every other race can use the soul mechanic? Because they said they want to make every race feel balanced.

And the fact that people will be able to use transformations, I think we just won't see the soul mechanic being used much, so the appeal of it, aside from using the characters outside of VS and Parallel Quests modes, if it's exists, is still a mystery I guess.

[Grimlock]

Likely because they are making a mystery in regards to his role in the story, something a lot of fans already speculate since the reveal trailer (and his possible new clothing). Similar to how they refuse to talk about Bulma's presence. I believe they may start showing Goku more in a few months.

Be that as it may, let us bask in a "Goku-less world" for a little while, it's quite fun when we break free from old bounds, even when there's a catch behind it. I do hope this "Bulma" is just some descendant and nothing more, although I would still prefer a new character altogether.

[Chuquita]

I'm really hoping for her to be a descendant of the original Bulma. I think it would widen the scope of what they could do with the character.

I'm also ok with Goku's absence. DBO already satisfied my curiosity for an ending for him. Nothing XV3 could think up could top it. I'd rather it continue to focus on other characters.

[Bardock God of Time]

I'm really hoping for her to be a descendant of the original Bulma. I think it would widen the scope of what they could do with the character.

I'm also ok with Goku's absence. DBO already satisfied my curiosity for an ending for him. Nothing XV3 could think up could top it. I'd rather it continue to focus on other characters.

I think Bulma might be the actual Bulma but possessing an avatar via that Soul mechanic

[PhantomSaiyan]

I think Bulma might be the actual Bulma but possessing an avatar via that Soul mechanic

If that's the case, my hate for the Soul mechanic continues to grow

[WittyUsername]

Whatever the case may be, I would hope the idea isn’t that Bulma chose to become immortal so she could stay young forever or something. Desiring immortality is something that’s traditionally been associated with the bad guys in Dragon Ball.

[Bardock God of Time]

https://noisypixel.net/dragon-ball-xeno ... 1000-lore/

Hirano-san seemed aware of that expectation and said the team knows fans love the large number of characters in the Xenoverse games. However, he also confirmed that Xenoverse 3 isn’t being built on the same foundation as the first two entries. “Xenoverse 1 and 2 shared the same core game engine,” Hirano-san said. “But with 3, we rebuilt the engine in order to develop the game.”

A rebuilt engine sounds exciting and scary at the same time because it suggests Xenoverse 3 is more than an expansion dressed up as a sequel, but it also means the team can’t casually carry everything forward without work. Hirano-san said getting all the characters into the new game will be a challenge, though he also noted that the team has redesigned a lot of the gameplay mechanics as part of the process.

Sounds like not every character will be brought over to Xenoverse 3, I figured that already with Supervillains and Ultra Supervillains. But who do we think will get cut?

Recent DLC characters are probably backports from Xenoverse 3 to 2, I think DBS Videl might be a character in Xenoverse 3. But someone like Vados might not make the cut.

[ZeroNeonix]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty excited about this game. While, as far as we know, we haven't seen the character customization screen yet, the wide range of NPC body types implies we will get a lot more variety in character customization this time. In the past two games, generic NPCs were made with the same character creator that we had, so when we see a fat Saiyan AND a buff Saiyan, that means we can likely make characters with both body types. Will this be with body sliders or with a list of body types? I don't know. But there are two female characters who are pretty similar in shape, aside from their bust sizes, so that has me thinking we're getting sliders.

Now, I don't know who I am going to make my main character this time. There doesn't seem to be any connective tissue between games this time, so our heroes from XV1 and XV2 probably won't be showing up as NPCs. So, I could go back and recreate my Saiyan from XV1. Originally, under the assumption that this game was going to follow narratively from XV2, I was going to play my little, orange Majin dude. Maybe I still will, depending on how interesting Majin are in this game.

In regards to the soul mechanic...thing, I think that's basically a way to play those characters in single-player, story missions. I'm kinda meh on the idea, but it's whatever. I doubt VS mode won't let us select other characters. However, I do hope we'll be able to partner up with our other CaCs, since that was an added feature of XV2.