Unpopular DB opinions

[DanielSSJ]

Late to the GT discussion, GT didn't fail because they wanted to go back to the action adventure comedy of early DB. THAT was actually a good idea after DB turned into more of a somewhat stationary show where the action comes to the main characters & I genuinely mean that. GT failed for several reasons.
1. Burnout on the franchise after over a decade of the manga & animes being a constant thing. The manga started in 1984 while the first DB anime was '86. The manga ended in 1994 & the anime in '95. With that, there were 2 anime TV shows, 16 movies, 2 TV specials, & a lot of other media.
2. The way the manga & Z ended were an ending to the story. Toriyama was done writing those characters & the world & he wanted you to know it.
3. Unfortunately, the anime writers couldn't tell a lot of interesting stories to save their lives, which even they admitted to themselves.
4. Making Goku a kid again rather than maintain what Toriyama had done for years & have Goku be an adult, with the kid role being taken by new characters.
5. Continuity errors with not only the manga, but also the previous animes.
6. Inconsistent power scaling & logic of the universe (Toriyama also suffered from this at times, to be fair).
7. Bad pacing of the stories.
8. Not that interesting of ideas they DID do or just poor execution of what they had.

This is just MY shortlist, but yeah.

I would also wager, given than GT started syndication the literal next wee after Z ended, the production schedule itself probably wasn't so great. Could help explain why the episode to episode writing felt so rushed and inconsistent.

[The Dark Knight]

I would also wager, given than GT started syndication the literal next wee after Z ended, the production schedule itself probably wasn't so great. Could help explain why the episode to episode writing felt so rushed and inconsistent.

GT actually had a regular schedule; what happened was that half way through they threw out what they had and went back to the drawing board, which resulted in the Baby arc.

[DanielSSJ]

Yeah but wouldn't the fact that they're having to come up with the story from whole cloth as opposed to adapting an existing work have an effect on things?

[The Dark Knight]

Yeah but wouldn't the fact that they're having to come up with the story from whole cloth as opposed to adapting an existing work have an effect on things?

Of course it did, but things probably would've turned out better had they had their vision for the series set in stone from the beginning, rather than wasting so much time on content they never ended up using.

[Doctor Seaweed Roll]

Despite initially watching GT through fan recordings of Blue Water dub (not sure if they were sent to Seed Of Might to help recover lost episodes) I genuinely enjoy the GT Rap after only discovering it in the last 5 years

[Scsigs]

Despite initially watching GT through fan recordings of Blue Water dub (not sure if they were sent to Seed Of Might to help recover lost episodes) I genuinely enjoy the GT Rap after only discovering it in the last 5 years

I view the GT Rap in the same vein as the One Piece Rap. Bad, but CAN be enjoyable if you're in the mood for them. I'd still rather listen to the original theme songs any day, tbh.

[Scsigs]

Spoiler:

Late to the GT discussion, GT didn't fail because they wanted to go back to the action adventure comedy of early DB. THAT was actually a good idea after DB turned into more of a somewhat stationary show where the action comes to the main characters & I genuinely mean that. GT failed for several reasons.
1. Burnout on the franchise after over a decade of the manga & animes being a constant thing. The manga started in 1984 while the first DB anime was '86. The manga ended in 1994 & the anime in '95. With that, there were 2 anime TV shows, 16 movies, 2 TV specials, & a lot of other media.
2. The way the manga & Z ended were an ending to the story. Toriyama was done writing those characters & the world & he wanted you to know it.
3. Unfortunately, the anime writers couldn't tell a lot of interesting stories to save their lives, which even they admitted to themselves.
4. Making Goku a kid again rather than maintain what Toriyama had done for years & have Goku be an adult, with the kid role being taken by new characters.
5. Continuity errors with not only the manga, but also the previous animes.
6. Inconsistent power scaling & logic of the universe (Toriyama also suffered from this at times, to be fair).
7. Bad pacing of the stories.
8. Not that interesting of ideas they DID do or just poor execution of what they had.

This is just MY shortlist, but yeah.

I would also wager, given than GT started syndication the literal next week after Z ended, the production schedule itself probably wasn't so great. Could help explain why the episode to episode writing felt so rushed and inconsistent.

Like the other person said, GT was in the works for probably around a year before it premiered in Japan. As soon as it would've been announced that the DB manga was coming to an end, Toei would've been looking into doing something else with the franchise on their end, so they had their producers come up with something. They would've had to come up with a story, outline it, script it, storyboard it, animate the episodes, & have the voice cast record their lines for it. These things take a lot of time. It's why they were able to turn the initial arc into the Baby Arc. They managed to do a gradual transition. The animation alone would've taken probably 2-3 months per episode. Or probably 5 minutes & a smoke break if it was Last House.