Help me find the page number in the Daizenshuu for this scan

[TheComicCurator]

Hi! Which page number is this from? The fake Z warriors scan. Is this from D7 and if so what page?
https://imgur.com/a/rnbNTdG

[VegettoEX]

Hi! Which page number is this from? The fake Z warriors scan. Is this from D7 and if so what page?
https://imgur.com/a/rnbNTdG

That is not a "scan" -- that is a screenshot of a formatted and designed web page that has translated text out of Daizenshuu 7 (as it appeared on the fansite Kanzentai pre-merger).

If you don't know Japanese (and therefore Japanese alphabetical order) and/or even its name in Japanese (ニセ超戦士達), it would probably be hard to find, since the image that was added alongside it on Kanzentai isn't actually there in the dictionary, but was added to the web page for consistency's sake. Anyway, it's on page 94 there in the "Human Racial Dictionary" within Daizenshuu 7.



What exactly do you need to know about this? I would put money down on it being something to do with the "power is on par with their real counterparts" part.

[TheComicCurator]

Thanks a bunch, just needed the page. I have D7 and just wanted to give someone the original statements who had asked for them in higher resolution.

[TheComicCurator]

I'd love some clarification on this if you are able, or can help.

So here is what DeepL says this is.

https://imgur.com/d265p55

"the real thing was defeated"

But here is what Goku states in that same scene
https://imgur.com/a/JfNcFCh

Elder Kai explicitely states these are not the real thing, and expands on this doubling down that they are not real, and that they are memories manifest from Buu.

More so, Piccolo one hand no diff'ed Vegeta like it was nothing. Which we know is absurd. And then we hear that Goku knew from the start that these are not the real thing.


The statement of "their power is on par with the real counterparts" doesnt seem to be said anywhere in this original page 94.



Considering it states clearly that these emanations of buus memory of these characters only appeared in their minds and were not actually there, this is not really a fair thing to say that these were exact copies that had the full power of the original. Also again, the idea that Piccolo can manhandle Vegeta with one arm is quite funny and this is done by Buus memory of piccolo being so powerful, because he dominated Super buu during the lookout scene with his superior intelligence and this clearly elevated how he perceived piccolo vs the others.


So my question is what would this image here say they are warriors of the same power when the actual words dont say this?
https://imgur.com/d265p55

In the original japanese text, it doesn't say that. And goes on at the end of the sentence to recite that they are not real copies. This below is not at all the actual words.

https://imgur.com/a/NfvoQmJ

Also man, for the love of King Yemma, dont block the page with a toy lol, we cant see it or verify anything when you do that.



It directly goes against what Elder Kai stated and what goku stated in the same clip.

Hi! Which page number is this from? The fake Z warriors scan. Is this from D7 and if so what page?
https://imgur.com/a/rnbNTdG

That is not a "scan" -- that is a screenshot of a formatted and designed web page that has translated text out of Daizenshuu 7 (as it appeared on the fansite Kanzentai pre-merger).

If you don't know Japanese (and therefore Japanese alphabetical order) and/or even its name in Japanese (ニセ超戦士達), it would probably be hard to find, since the image that was added alongside it on Kanzentai isn't actually there in the dictionary, but was added to the web page for consistency's sake. Anyway, it's on page 94 there in the "Human Racial Dictionary" within Daizenshuu 7.



What exactly do you need to know about this? I would put money down on it being something to do with the "power is on par with their real counterparts" part.

https://imgur.com/a/49E04a8

[VegettoEX]

That first broken-ass DeepL thing you shared is the entry for the Western Kaioshin, which is three entries to the right of these illusion warriors, being treated as if it's Chinese.

In a format like this, Japanese reads right-to-left, top-to-bottom.

Forgive any typos in this quick transcription (so don't go around quoting this as gospel without double-checking it), but I see:

ニセ超戦士達☆
幻
【歴】ブウの脳内で出現。悟飯、悟天、トランクス、ピッコロのニセモノがいる。
【特】ブウの記憶が作り出した幻。パワーは本物なみで、倒されてもすぐ復活する。悟空は、目を見てすぐにニセモノだと気がついた。
【技】本物と同じ技を使う。特に悟天とトランクスはフュージョンし、いきなり超ゴテンクス3になった。
【闘】それぞれが悟空とベジータと闘った。てこずる悟空達だったが、ブウがケーキを目撃したため、ニセモノ達もケーキに変わってしまった。

The statement you seem to be looking for (called it!) is パワーは本物なみで which is pretty straight-forward: their power is the same as / just like / on par with the real thing, which is basically what Jake's old translation there on Kanzentai said ("Their power is on par with their real counterparts").

If this doesn't account for what you're trying to ask about, I can't make heads or tails otherwise.

Thanks a bunch, just needed the page. I have D7

Also man, for the love of King Yemma, dont block the page with a toy lol, we cant see it or verify anything when you do that.

But since you have the book, you can look at it and don't need my photo, right?