The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DanielSSJ]

How strong would a Super Saiyan 3 Raditz actually be?

Applying the databook multipliers to his databook power level, he'd have a power level of 600,000, or somewhat stronger than First Form Freeza.

[Koitsukai]

If First Form Freeza, instead of dropping a nuke on Planet Vegeta, fought every living saiyan, how many of them could he have taken?

Regardless of how many saiyans there were, with that kind of power, how many can he kill before getting tired or receiving damage without transforming? 1 million? 10 million? 100 millions saiyans whose power at most reach 10k?
Saiyans can turn into giant apes.

[SonicRider]

SSJ3 Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Ultimate Gohan (Superhero) vs SSBE Vegeta (ToP)

SSB Goku (Cell Games) vs Buuhan

[nineko]

SSJ3 Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

How is this even a matchup? Gohan could defeat a superior form of Cell while being in a lower level of Super Saiyan. Gohan would win so fast that the draining effects of Super Saiyan 3 wouldn't even have the time to register. Even adding Cell's regeneration to the mix wouldn't change the outcome.

[dragon boss z]

SSJ3 Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Ultimate Gohan (Superhero) vs SSBE Vegeta (ToP)

SSB Goku (Cell Games) vs Buuhan

- I assume you meant some early version of Gohan?

-Vegeta, Superhero Gohan was rusty and not better than he was in the ToP. He's regular ToP blue level at best.

-Goku easily. Cell games Goku isn't that much weaker than Buu saga Goku, and the SSB multiplier is massive.

[SonicRider]

I meant SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Super Perfect Cell (Kaioken x20) vs Base Super Buu

SSB Vegeta (Granolah arc) vs SSBKK x20 Goku (ToP)

[DanielSSJ]

I meant SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Super Perfect Cell (Kaioken x20) vs Base Super Buu

SSB Vegeta (Granolah arc) vs SSBKK x20 Goku (ToP)

- In that case, I'd probably say Gohan has a raw power advantage, but Super Saiyan 3's stamina problem makes the margins really tight. I think 50% of the time, Cell wins.

- I'd say Cell has the raw power for it, but it really depends on how well he handles the Kaioken. If it's anything like Goku on Namek, I'd say Boo easily outlasts him.

[Koitsukai]

Daima SS3 Goku (adult) vs Janemba

Daima SS3 Vegeta (adult) vs RoF Freeza (final form)

[SonicRider]

SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Kamicollo

Base Vegito (Saiyan Saga) vs First Form Freeza (Namek Arc)

Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs SSR Goku Black (with his scythe)

[GreatSaiyaman123]

[quote=Koitsukai post_id=1821007 time=1791892926 user_id=122405]
If First Form Freeza, instead of dropping a nuke on Planet Vegeta, fought every living saiyan, how many of them could he have taken?

Regardless of how many saiyans there were, with that kind of power, how many can he kill before getting tired or receiving damage without transforming? 1 million? 10 million? 100 millions saiyans whose power at most reach 10k?
Saiyans can turn into giant apes.
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Impossible to tell because we’ve never seen someone take on an absurdly high number of people like this.

Knowing Toriyama the Saiyan population probably wasn’t that big - probably less than 1 million - so I can see Freeza soloing them. Most Saiyans are 1-2k, meaning 10-20k with Oozaru. King Vegeta at ~10k is a big outlier.

[quote=SonicRider post_id=1821077 time=1792030776 user_id=130760]
SSJ3 Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Ultimate Gohan (Superhero) vs SSBE Vegeta (ToP)

SSB Goku (Cell Games) vs Buuhan
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If you mean Future Gohan, I think he’s more like Imperfect Cell level.

SSJBE Vegeta wins. I don’t think current SSJBs and their rivals are 20x stronger than in the ToP, but it’s possible.

I have SSJB Goku winning quite easily.

[quote=SonicRider post_id=1821345 time=1792599464 user_id=130760]
I meant SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Semi-Perfect Cell

Super Perfect Cell (Kaioken x20) vs Base Super Buu

SSB Vegeta (Granolah arc) vs SSBKK x20 Goku (ToP)
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Super Buu is around 8x SSJ3 Goku (Since SSJ Gotenks ~ SSJ3 Goku). SSJ3 Goku is 4x SSJ2 Goku, who is moderately stronger than Gohan, whol SPC rivals. Let’s say SPC is 80% of Goku - that makes Super Buu 1.25x4x8 SPC, which means 40x. KKx20 isn’t enough, Buu one shots.

Goku wins for the same reasons ToP SSJBE Vegeta would beat SH Ultimate Gohan.

[quote=Koitsukai post_id=1821368 time=1792669353 user_id=122405]
Daima SS3 Goku (adult) vs Janemba

Daima SS3 Vegeta (adult) vs RoF Freeza (final form)
[/quote]

I have Janemba somewhere between SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, which means Goku wins.

Not sure how strong Freeza is, but I think his 1st form is already SSJ3 level. 4th form Freeza stomps.

[quote=SonicRider post_id=1821653 time=1793248360 user_id=130760]
SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Kamicollo

Base Vegito (Saiyan Saga) vs First Form Freeza (Namek Arc)

Base Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs SSR Goku Black (with his scythe)
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If this is TV Gohan, he wins.

I’ll go with Freeza, but fusion is complicated.

Gogeta for sure.