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Post by Stargazer » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:30 pm

Chuquita wrote:Kuririn's too important a person to Goku (especially during this arc; because that's who he's avenging) to leave out.
Grandpa Gohan take that role in the movie.

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Post by Kunzait_83 » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:31 pm

bkev wrote:It's quite possible that htey're leaving Kuririn for a sequel. Makes sense to me, considering that - I would think - the movie will end with Goku continuing/beginning to train under Roshi.
This is not the case. It has already been confirmed that the movie will follow along with the Daimao saga in having Muten sacrifice himself against Piccolo. So unless they have Goku and co. wish him back with the Dragon Balls either at the end of this movie or the beginning of the next, I don't see things playing out that way. Apparently as things stand, Son will be (presumably) doing much of his Kamesennin training in this movie.

And if it hasn't been announced that Yaji's gonna be in the movie, then where are people getting this and why is it being discussed as if it's factual? :?
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:41 pm

So IF Kuririn isn't in the movie this could create a tricky situation for the potential sequels. We can assume that these sequels will include the Super Saiyan transformation. So if Goku transforms, but there is no Kuririn how will the transformation get triggered?
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Post by Stargazer » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:44 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:So IF Kuririn isn't in the movie this could create a tricky situation for the potential sequels. We can assume that these sequels will include the Super Saiyan transformation. So if Goku transforms, but there is no Kuririn how will the transformation get triggered?
Freeza killing Gohan or Bulma should have the same effect.

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Post by Raki » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:55 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:So IF Kuririn isn't in the movie this could create a tricky situation for the potential sequels. We can assume that these sequels will include the Super Saiyan transformation. So if Goku transforms, but there is no Kuririn how will the transformation get triggered?
They can have Piccolo or Gohan being killed in Krillin's place.
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Post by MyVisionity » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:55 pm

Stargazer wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:So IF Kuririn isn't in the movie this could create a tricky situation for the potential sequels. We can assume that these sequels will include the Super Saiyan transformation. So if Goku transforms, but there is no Kuririn how will the transformation get triggered?
Freeza killing Gohan or Bulma should have the same effect.
This is true. Or maybe the trigger won't involve anger at all, but some other emotion. They may even just rework the Oozaru stuff and have Goku go SSJ at the sight of a full moon.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:56 pm

Stargazer wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:So IF Kuririn isn't in the movie this could create a tricky situation for the potential sequels. We can assume that these sequels will include the Super Saiyan transformation. So if Goku transforms, but there is no Kuririn how will the transformation get triggered?
Freeza killing Gohan or Bulma should have the same effect.
But it just wouldn't be the same, I would walk out of the theater feeling so... cheated, like they were lying to me. :cry:
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Post by djkalteraphine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:12 pm

The fact that they dismissed Kuririn easier than, well, Yamcha or Chi-chi, or any character aside from maybe Roshi, shows they've not read enough manga to be adapting anything.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:14 pm

The fact that they dismissed Kuririn easier than, well, Yamcha or Chi-chi, or any character aside from maybe Roshi, shows they've not read enough manga to be adapting anything.
I'am not worried about the lack of Krillin in this movie. They didn't include Krillin in "The Path To Power" and that turned out fine.

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Post by djkalteraphine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:21 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:
The fact that they dismissed Kuririn easier than, well, Yamcha or Chi-chi, or any character aside from maybe Roshi, shows they've not read enough manga to be adapting anything.
I'am not worried about the lack of Krillin in this movie. They didn't include Krillin in "The Path To Power" and that turned out fine.
Path to Power wasn't meant to have a sequel. If they weren't hinting heavily for ages that this is going to be a franchise, I wouldn't mind so much either. But if they go right into the Saiyajins next movie, how on Earth are they going to introduce that poor guy?! "Oh, hi guys, nice to be at our reunion. Oh! And it's Krillin! My best friend for years!" *Camera zooms in on Krillin's face* "Hello. I'm Krillin. Goku's best friend for years. Seriously"

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:39 pm

djkalteraphine wrote:But if they go right into the Saiyajins next movie, how on Earth are they going to introduce that poor guy?! "Oh, hi guys, nice to be at our reunion. Oh! And it's Krillin! My best friend for years!" *Camera zooms in on Krillin's face* "Hello. I'm Krillin. Goku's best friend for years. Seriously"
:lol: That was good stuff right there :lol:

Also, maybe I'm just out of the loop on this, but has there actually been any concrete evidence that they're going to make sequals to this?
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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:43 pm

I'm pretty sure their going to add Krillin in the sequel (if he isn't already a surprise character in this movie) because they have to. Think about it. If the Saiyans show up they have to fight somebody right ? The producers said that Goku dies at the beginning of the next movie so who does that leave for Nappa and Vegeta to fight ? Piccolo, Gohan, and Yamcha ?
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Post by Rocketman » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:25 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:The producers said that Goku dies at the beginning of the next movie so who does that leave for Nappa and Vegeta to fight ? Piccolo, Gohan, and Yamcha ?
Since the grand total of Tien's and Chiaotzu's involvement in that fight was two attacks.... maybe? Cut the Saibaman fight and Yamcha takes Krillin's place vs Nappa.

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Post by djkalteraphine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:28 pm

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Chrono Trigger wrote:The producers said that Goku dies at the beginning of the next movie so who does that leave for Nappa and Vegeta to fight ? Piccolo, Gohan, and Yamcha ?
Since the grand total of Tenshinhan's and Chiaotzu's involvement in that fight was two attacks.... maybe? Cut the Saibaman fight and Yamcha takes Krillin's place vs Nappa.
Then you've barely got any movie.

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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:31 pm

Exactly so unless they make up some original character that just happen to show up to challenge the saiyans (which isn't beyond them) or they just have Roshi, Bulma, Yamcha, Gohan, Chi Chi, and Piccolo fight Nappa and Vegeta (also possible unfortunately) then they have to introduce Tien and Krillin.
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Post by Rocketman » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:46 pm

I will watch it if they keep ChiChi as a viable fighter. Krillin and Tien can go fuck themselves.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:47 pm

Rocketman wrote:I will watch it if they keep ChiChi as a viable fighter. Krillin and Tenshinhan can go fuck themselves.
:shock: Wow those are two pretty relevant characters right there that your telling off.
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Post by MyVisionity » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:03 pm

The fact that they dismissed Kuririn easier than, well, Yamcha or Chi-chi, or any character aside from maybe Roshi, shows they've not read enough manga to be adapting anything.
I don't see this at all. The impression I get from the cast of characters is that they are aiming for the original lineup of the gang from the start of the series. They could easily introduce Kuririn in the next film and have him join Goku, Chi Chi, Yamcha, etc. in the fight against the Saiyajin or whomever.
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Rocketman wrote:I will watch it if they keep ChiChi as a viable fighter. Krillin and Tenshinhan can go fuck themselves.
Wow those are two pretty relevant characters right there that your telling off.
Honestly with Goku, Bulma, Roshi, Piccolo, ChiChi, and Yamcha, I don't think they would really even have to add either of those characters to fight in the next one if they didn't want. However it's unlikely that they wouldn't given their popularity.

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Post by djkalteraphine » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:08 pm

Rocketman wrote:I will watch it if they keep ChiChi as a viable fighter. Krillin and Tenshinhan can go fuck themselves.
I agree that I like the idea of Chichi as a main fighter, but at the cost of Kuririn? Now that's just crazy talk.

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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:10 pm

Isn't there supposed to be a World Tournament in this movie ? Would it be possible for Krillin and Tien to be introduced at that point in the movie ?
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