Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

[Kendamu]

Not that it changes anything but you guys make it seem like it's totally and utterly changing every single thing about the story. He still meets Bulma and goes looking for the 7 Dragon Balls which if I'm not mistaken happened in the source material. If changing at least ONE thing is going against the source material then I guess The Lord of the Rings movies were as equally crippled as this movie.

So what you're saying is that it would be okay if Batman became Batman because of a chemical accident that mutates a utility belt from his waist and his parents were still alive and well because otherwise he's still fighting crime.

For one, this movie is based on Dragon Ball, not Batman, whose story is iconic in America.

Another thing is that Batman's parents' murder is *the* primary event that has always defined him. Son Goku living alone in the mountains is not. It does define a lasting aspect of his personality, but it's not what drives him or completely explains his character.

And the Lord of the Rings is a novel, which you could expect a straightforward adaptation from, as opposed to a comic book or cartoon series, which are usually re-imagined.

Yeah, and Goku being a hick who has never seen another human being other than his grandfather being pulled into the human world and marveling at all of its conventions yet somehow keeping his purity through it all is a primary series of events that defines Goku as a character.

Also, this movie is being released in Japan, too. In fact, Japan has been getting more media about it than we have. Goku is iconic to Japan. In the respect that they're pushing the movie even harder over there, they should still do the movie right even if we Americans aren't the reason for it.

[dragondyle]

If those dates are accurate, why are they releasing it in Japan before America? I know Dragonball is Japanese, but this movie is made in America ( well, it's being filmed in Mexico but you get the point ) so why don't we get this first? This just doesn't make much sense to me.

Maybe we will get a better version of the movie?

[SSJ2bardock]

If those dates are accurate, why are they releasing it in Japan before America? I know Dragonball is Japanese, but this movie is made in America ( well, it's being filmed in Mexico but you get the point ) so why don't we get this first? This just doesn't make much sense to me.

Maybe we will get a better version of the movie?

Not likely, the difference in release dates is only a few days. I was just confused as to why an American made movie was being released in Japan and other countries before America. It would be like if the new Dragonball specials were handed over to Funimation and released in the US before Japan.

[Raki]

If those dates are accurate, why are they releasing it in Japan before America? I know Dragonball is Japanese, but this movie is made in America ( well, it's being filmed in Mexico but you get the point ) so why don't we get this first? This just doesn't make much sense to me.

Maybe we will get a better version of the movie?

Not likely, the difference in release dates is only a few days. I was just confused as to why an american made movie was being released in Japan and other countries before America. It would be like if the new Dragonball specials were handed over to Funimation and released in the US before Japan.

In all honesty, we got all 3 TV series on DVD before they did.

[SSJ2bardock]

That's not really the same though, releasing something on DVD that has already been out in Japan for 20 something years and a little over 10 in America is more acceptable. This is the premiere (did I spell premiere right?) of a major motion picture we're talking about here, not a television series that has already been done and over with for 20 years.

[Chuquita]

Why a whole two weeks before us though?

To be honest I'd rather have this movie air here in March than Easter Weekend. I know the Matrix premiered that weekend, but still.

[SSJ2bardock]

They probably don't have much confidence in the movie, so they're gonna be releasing it way before all the big summer blockbusters.

[MyVisionity]

So what you're saying is that it would be okay if Batman became Batman because of a chemical accident that mutates a utility belt from his waist and his parents were still alive and well because otherwise he's still fighting crime.

For one, this movie is based on Dragon Ball, not Batman, whose story is iconic in America.

Another thing is that Batman's parents' murder is *the* primary event that has always defined him. Son Goku living alone in the mountains is not. It does define a lasting aspect of his personality, but it's not what drives him or completely explains his character.

And the Lord of the Rings is a novel, which you could expect a straightforward adaptation from, as opposed to a comic book or cartoon series, which are usually re-imagined.

Yeah, and Goku being a hick who has never seen another human being other than his grandfather being pulled into the human world and marveling at all of its conventions yet somehow keeping his purity through it all is a primary series of events that defines Goku as a character.

But that's not one primary event that kicks off Goku's story. That's a series of events that unfold throughout the story's duration. And while they may help to define his character somewhat, they don't do it completely, and they aren't the sole or main reason for everything he does.

Also, this movie is being released in Japan, too. In fact, Japan has been getting more media about it than we have. Goku is iconic to Japan. In the respect that they're pushing the movie even harder over there, they should still do the movie right even if we Americans aren't the reason for it.

The movie is American-made and intended for American audiences firstly though. Japan's view of Dragon Ball shouldn't necessarily impact how America does the movie.

[Chrono Trigger]

Kendamu said: Yeah, and Goku being a hick who has never seen another human being other than his grandfather being pulled into the human world and marveling at all of its conventions yet somehow keeping his purity through it all is a primary series of events that defines Goku as a character.

Gohan and Goten are about the same as Goku and they were brought up differently so who's to say Goku couldn't have turned out the same if he was brought up in High School ?

[Kid Trunks]

Gohan and Goten are about the same as Goku and they were brought up differently so who's to say Goku couldn't have turned out the same if he was brought up in High School ?

No they aren't. Gohan is shy and conservative as a teen, and is very concerned with people knowing about his powers. While Goten is more occupied with dates. And neither of them are bothered with training. In no way do they resemble Goku at about 18 (which is what I'm assuming Goku is in this movie).

[Chrono Trigger]

I was talking about them being pure of heart and essentially being good people. Not their personalities.

[djkalteraphine]

I was talking about them being pure of heart and essentially being good people. Not their personalities.

Then why don't they just make the movie about Gohan?

[Chrono Trigger]

I don't know. The same reason they didn't just make the X-Men movies all about wolverine ? (Oh wait...)

[Chuquita]

I was talking about them being pure of heart and essentially being good people. Not their personalities.

Then why don't they just make the movie about Gohan?

I wish this was true. So very much. TT_TT


I mean, if they wanna be all "hip to today's teens"; that whole arc has what their "jones'n" for.

-boy in high school (with secret powers, OoooOOooh ) (Gohan)
-the love interest (Videl)
-the mutual female friend (Erasa)
-the rival for the love interest's affections (Sharpner)


So, why...why pick Goku instead if they clearly want Gohan?

[SSj_Rambo]

If those dates are accurate, why are they releasing it in Japan before America? I know Dragonball is Japanese, but this movie is made in America ( well, it's being filmed in Mexico but you get the point ) so why don't we get this first? This just doesn't make much sense to me.

They probably agreed to release it in Japan on that day back when it was scheduled to be released here in late 2008. But when they delayed the American premier date they probably couldn't change the Japanese premier date to to the prior agreement.

[Kendamu]

Kendamu said: Yeah, and Goku being a hick who has never seen another human being other than his grandfather being pulled into the human world and marveling at all of its conventions yet somehow keeping his purity through it all is a primary series of events that defines Goku as a character.

Gohan and Goten are about the same as Goku and they were brought up differently so who's to say Goku couldn't have turned out the same if he was brought up in High School ?

Yeah. Instead, Gohan took after Goku and Goten took after Gohan. So, it all still leads back to how Goku grew up. Still a primary event.

Besides, I'm not even trying to argue the reality of, "Goku could still be how he is even as a High School boy." What I'm saying is, "Putting Peter Parker in a orange dogi and making him gullible doesn't mean that I'm watching Dragonball."

[ultimateemail5000]

Maybe Goku will drop out of school, to become the fighter he's intended to be. So in sequels Chi-Chi can push school on Gohan, so he doesn't make the same mistake as his pep pep did.

[Chrono Trigger]

The whole point of the movie is Goku meeting a bunch of new people, getting stronger, finding the Dragon Balls, and stopping Piccolo from taking over the world. That's the plot of the movie. From the way you guys are talking you would think that the whole movie is about "Goku being a absurdly powerful martial artist who is worried about asking Chi Chi out to senior prom, trying out for the football team, and sitting in the library looking up sources for his SENIOR FUCKING PAPER!" That is clearly not the case ! In almost all of the official promo pictures released how many of them deal with the whole High School BS ?

When Chatwin was interviewed about his character he said : I am very honored to be able to play Goku. When I am playing gentle and loving Goku, I feel as if I am given energy from him. In the movie, I have a lot of great action scenes. After the movie is finished post production, I’ll get to see my Kamehameha appear on the screen, and I get very excited when I imagine that."

Nothing to even suggest that he is anything like Peter Parker. Gentle and loving Goku. In all the interviews that have been translated or reported on so far none of the actors really talk about the High School portion, which (and this is speculation) has to mean that it is a very insignificant and small part of the story that won't even be thought about by the end of the movie! I know it's like a red dot on an all white shirt but you gotta let the High School bit go!

[Big Momma]

Maybe Goku will drop out of school, to become the fighter he's intended to be. .

This is America! We don't want to approve of dropping out of school! :O

[JAPPO]

It's a quick, hyped, simplified description for 10-year-olds, guys. Let's try not to read so much into it.

We have a winner.