W00T! Super Saiyan 2 Gohan on October 19th!

[Dai]

Actually, I don't think you get the point entirely... FUNi's picture quality is way inferior to TOEI's, and no matter how you bend it, that's all FUNi's own, mostly purposeful doing. The colour bleeding and those sort of side-effects is all because FUNi decided to brush up the animation to make it seem ''new''. Can't really blame TOEI for simply having better picture quality than FUNi.

[MajinVejitaXV]

This is going way off topic, and I'm sorry to Ben for starting things and messing up his thread. I'll start a new one later if you people wanna debate this, I still have one FUNi disc (Majin Buu: Revival) that I can compare to the Toei releases, if people even care. It's not a matter of opinion, FUNi's releases are undeniably, technically inferior. Hell, my fiancee has started watching with me, and even she pointed out that the Toei releases look a lot better than the couple of FUNi discs I had shown her in the past.

-Corey

[Tenken]

Actually, I don't think you get the point entirely... FUNi's picture quality is way inferior to TOEI's, and no matter how you bend it, that's all FUNi's own, mostly purposeful doing. The colour bleeding and those sort of side-effects is all because FUNi decided to brush up the animation to make it seem ''new''. Can't really blame TOEI for simply having better picture quality than FUNi.

This isn't a black and white situation people...

Picture quality included, are Dragon Boxes better for people who understand Japanese? Yes (again, it's a cost issue here). What about everyone else? No(cost issue, and YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING YOU JUST SPENT ~$800 FOR). All I'm saying is that TOEI HAD to have an edge to get people to buy their discs. I'm not calling them an evil empire of something.

The FUNi discs are still highly watchable, highly affordable, and I can understand them. So it doesen't matter.

[Deus ex Machina]

This is going way off topic, and I'm sorry to Ben for starting things and messing up his thread. I'll start a new one later if you people wanna debate this, I still have one FUNi disc (Majin Buu: Revival) that I can compare to the Toei releases, if people even care.

I'd like to take you up on that offer. I can't deny that the Toei DVD's are superior from a technological point of view, but from what I've seen the colors have faded quite a bit, and Funi's have the colors restored.

[Ben Plante]

XV, don't apologize, it's not like the thread is my private property or whatever. I just posted the first message of it. It gave me an excuse to say W00T, which is only nice in tiny doses now.

Carry on, I'm no authority here.

[PsyLiam]

It's not a matter of opinion, FUNi's releases are undeniably, technically inferior. Hell, my fiancee has started watching with me, and even she pointed out that the Toei releases look a lot better than the couple of FUNi discs I had shown her in the past.

Bully for your fiancee. But we've had this conversation before, and several people said that FUNi's colour-modified versions did indeed look "better" and "newer". And then some other people said that they looked worse. People disagreed. People had different opinions.

And in any case, you're not arguing about a digital vs non-digital print of Episode 2...you're arguing about DVD releases of a cartoon series that's over a decade old. It's not at the cutting edge of the medium, or anything.

[SDHero]

Well, I'm in that large majority (at least I'd think so) who generally prefer to watch anime subtitled (for whatever reason), but don't know Japanese (and don't exactly have the time to become proficient in a language just to watch TV), so I'll be waiting for the October 19th release of one of the single best episodes of DBZ happily.

If you've got the ability to understand Japanese, heck, go for the Dragonboxes, more power to you, I wish I could have them just to have them, but I -really- can't justify paying hundreds of dollars for something I cannot understand while watching it. If the picture quality IS better, great for you, but that doesn't make me know Japanese any more than I did five minutes ago, so the average DBZ subbie comes to an impass here

[B-kun]

Trust me, Japanese is in no way an easy lanuage to learn by watching TV. I've been studying it unprofessionally for 5 years and I still don't have much of a grasp on it.

[SDHero]

Exactly my point, Japanese is so far removed from English grammatically that it's next-to-impossible to pick it up casually, and you'd need to know it prett darn well to watch a television show without the aid of subtitles.

[MajinVejitaXV]

This is going way off topic, and I'm sorry to Ben for starting things and messing up his thread. I'll start a new one later if you people wanna debate this, I still have one FUNi disc (Majin Buu: Revival) that I can compare to the Toei releases, if people even care.

I'd like to take you up on that offer. I can't deny that the Toei DVD's are superior from a technological point of view, but from what I've seen the colors have faded quite a bit, and Funi's have the colors restored.

Sure thing, life is busy though so give me probably until this weekend to give an educated overview.

-Corey

[Dai]

FUNi touches up and ''darkens'' their image quality, while TOEI uses the original colours.

Now you might say that that's cool if its makes FUNi's image quality look better. Only it doesn't. Their touching up comes with loads of side-effects, like colour-bleeding, unclarity (The RR logo on uniforms is at times unreadable) and quite a bit of pixelation. TOEI uses the original colours, which means no unclarity and not even a hint of pixelation.

Or something. MajinVejitaXV can probably explain it a lot better than me.