Season 7 Boxart changed to...

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:38 pm

Believe it or not, the cover does matter.

There ARE people who don't know what exactly each season covers, so the only way they'd be able to tell is to have to look at the back cover.

Using Saiyan Saga Piccolo for a late-DBZ set ends up making people looking at first glance wondering if that's an early DVD or not.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:11 pm

Tsukento wrote:Oh WHY did you guys have to bring up the whole nakama bit with One Piece?

It's bad enough I have to put up with a bunch of rambling morons who take all of the fansubs of One Piece literally and think Chopper shoots out nothing but swears out of his tiny mouth, or how they think "Gum-Gum" is a "terrible translation" of Gomu Gomu no.

I hear ya. As much as I don't mind the word nakama, it needs to be translated. End of story.

I wouldn't have minded keeping "Gomu Gomu no" in the English version to be honest. A technique name is all right in my book. Stuff like kaio-ken, hadouken, shoryuken and lots more were kept in the English version of things, so why not Gomu Gomu?

But again, I don't care. Gum Gum sounds good

Believe it or not, the cover does matter.

There ARE people who don't know what exactly each season covers, so the only way they'd be able to tell is to have to look at the back cover.

Using Saiyan Saga Piccolo for a late-DBZ set ends up making people looking at first glance wondering if that's an early DVD or not.

Exactly. Believe it or not, a kid will go into the store yelling "MOMMY, SUPER SAIYAN 2 GOHAN (Or...Brolly) IS SOOOO COOOL I WANT THIS!". Piccolo just doesn't give off that vibe.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:17 pm

fps_anth wrote:Piccolo just doesn't give off that vibe.

WTF is this? Piccolo's more hardcore and magnetic than everyone on the previous covers combined!

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:28 pm

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:33 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
fps_anth wrote:Piccolo just doesn't give off that vibe.
WTF is this? Piccolo's more hardcore and magnetic than everyone on the previous covers combined!

Over 9000 Vegeta would like to have a word with you

I agree with you, but the fact that it's Piccolo and not an awesome looking Super Saiyan is the problem. Majin Vegeta is not only an awesome looking SSJ, but he's relevant to the content as well. Very relevant.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:49 pm

As of now, I can totally accept the character choice for the cover of Season 7. Season 6 though.....*roid rage

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:54 pm

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:01 pm

fps_anth wrote: No one has it as bad as us (the DB community) when it comes to awful releases.

Yu-Gi-Oh says hi.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:17 pm

If anything, I'd say Goku with a halo on his head would have been more relevant to the cover. Mainly because a good portion of those episodes revolves around a dead Goku.

...God, that sounds horrible.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:22 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
fps_anth wrote:I agree with you, but the fact that it's Piccolo and not an awesome looking Super Saiyan is the problem. Majin Vegeta is not only an awesome looking SSJ, but he's relevant to the content as well. Very relevant.
I’m sorry, but I gotta disagree with you on both counts. First off, Majin Vegeta's episodes are nowhere on this set. This set is gonna cover from the Anoyoichi Budokai, through the Great Saiyaman adventures, through the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai, and stops right on the first appearance of Babidi. Majin Vegeta won’t be making his debut until the next set. So he’d be just as irrelevant.

Oh crap, I didn't know that. My mistake. I guess Great Saiyaman would be the best choice then.

As for the whole SSJ thing, you're right, but that still doesn't mean all the kiddies won't jump all over them when they show up. Or even a bad ass looking villian. But this Piccolo cover just doesn't sit right with me, knowing that it's from the second freaking episode of DBZ.

Yu-Gi-Oh says hi.

LOL I forgot about that show. Considering they've never gotten the Japanese audio on any release, I guess they do have it worse than us.

I remember some YGO uncut DVDs being released a couple of years back, and they were done extremely well. Then they just cancelled it...bastards.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:24 pm

fps_anth wrote:I remember some YGO uncut DVDs being released a couple of years back, and they were done extremely well. Then they just cancelled it...bastards.

Not THAT well. The video content was uncut, and the Japanese track was finally there, but it was dubtitles. It's like they said, "fine, we'll give you the Japanese, but we still don't wanna let you know what they're REALLY saying."

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:26 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
fps_anth wrote:I remember some YGO uncut DVDs being released a couple of years back, and they were done extremely well. Then they just cancelled it...bastards.
Not THAT well. The video content was uncut, and the Japanese track was finally there, but it was dubtitles. It's like they said, "fine, we'll give you the Japanese, but we still don't wanna let you know what they're REALLY saying."

Oh crap. Never noticed that. Lazy people...

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:33 pm

fps_anth wrote:Oh crap. Never noticed that. Lazy people...

Yeah, I happened to come across the first volume of it in a bargain bin a while ago. I got all excited, started watching it in Japanese, then was like... "wait, why do the subs say the same thing?"

Shaman King was the other series they did the half-assed uncut release of, and I'm pretty sure it got the same treatment.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:17 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
fps_anth wrote:Oh crap. Never noticed that. Lazy people...
Yeah, I happened to come across the first volume of it in a bargain bin a while ago. I got all excited, started watching it in Japanese, then was like... "wait, why do the subs say the same thing?"

Shaman King was the other series they did the half-assed uncut release of, and I'm pretty sure it got the same treatment.

Then we have Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo too.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:22 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:..Fucking fansubbers.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:26 pm

Casual Matt wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:..Fucking fansubbers.
(snip)

WTF? that's one of the most random subtitles.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:53 pm

Go Steven J. Simmons!!!
The subtitle hero!

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:45 am

Forgotten Hero wrote:Go Steven J. Simmons!!!
The subtitle hero!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he study both English and Japanese?

Maybe I'm just assuming since it's pretty much required to have an excellent grasp on both to do the caliber of work he does.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:55 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
rackhami wrote:I've always assumed they chose to retain "nakama" simply because it's a difficult word to translate, given there isn't a direct English equivalent available and the alternative English translations that are available don't necessarily convey the meaning and the connotations of its usage. I do recognize that this is entirely a matter of taste. I like "nakama" and I think keeping it as is, is the lesser of two evils - but again, that's just my personal preference.
There are plenty of acceptable translations, and picking an appropriate one is simply a matter of mood and context. Shipmate, comrade, ally, friend, team, etc...

I feel I have to point out...Those examples...Some are very informal english worlds while "Friend" and "Team" seem much more formal.

Take the ever so classic scene right after Luffy defeats Arlong for example...I've always believed it should be translated as "Nami...You are my FRIEND."

However Viz went with Shipmate which kind of made me sad when I first read it.

On topic though...I really like the fact that Piccolo's getting some love on the covers. He deserves it. I really don't care that the image isn't relavent to the Episodes. I'd rather have a cool looking cover that isn't relavant to the Episodes then a lame one that is.

Besides, what will attract the common fan to the shelves more? A kick ass Piccolo shot...Or Saiyaman doing an odd Ginyu inspired pose?

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:58 pm

Gozar wrote: On topic though...I really like the fact that Piccolo's getting some love on the covers. He deserves it. I really don't care that the image isn't relavent to the Episodes. I'd rather have a cool looking cover that isn't relavant to the Episodes then a lame one that is.

Besides, what will attract the common fan to the shelves more? A kick ass Piccolo shot...Or Saiyaman doing an odd Ginyu inspired pose?

About time somebody said that.