Absent Characters

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:44 pm

Has anyone ever provided a reasonable explanation for why any of the other Z-Warriors (other than the Saiyans) failed to appear in GT and the movies when earth was threatened other than “its just GT or Toei Animation”? In movie 10 Vegeta failed to show up and fight Broli. In Dragonball GT, Kakarrot as we all know took up most of the spotlight with Pan, then later a few others briefly assisted him, and then he fought alongside Vegeta at the show’s conclusion. Even though the earth was threatened Tenshinhan, Yamcha or Kuririn failed to appear to witness it. I understand that they lacked power to do anything affective but you can argue just the same concerning Son Gohan, Uub and the others. It really seemed out of character for Tenshinhan to behave in this manner. In the past, this character fought against Second Form Cell and briefly with Majin Buu when he knew he was outclassed.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:48 pm

They're like 60-70 years old by then.

As for Vegeta in movie 10, he would've ripped Broly in half at that point. So, to make a movie out of it, they pretend he's not there.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:53 pm

Well the best in-universe excuse I can come up with for GT is the fact that they themselves like Goku back in the Buu saga realized they needed to stop interfering with these affairs and leave it to the second generation (Pan, Uub,Trunks and Goten and in this case as far as they knew Goku would remain a youth into the next generation too) to clean up their own messes because they won't be around forever to pull their fat out of the fire.

As for the movies I don't really know, maybe they just had enough faith in Goku and the other Saiyans to take care of everything and thought they didn't need to put their lives on the line. That or in certain movies it would make sense that they didn't know a dilemma was even going on such as movie 12 in hell and movie 8 on another planet.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:38 pm

In GT, Yamcha and Tenshinhan were both like, "yeah, we don't feel like dying anymore. We'll stay out of this one." Kuririn tried to steal some screentime from Goku, and look what THAT got him.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:55 pm

I like to think that they personally wanted nothing to do with GT. >>

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:11 pm

Thanks

That makes a lot of sense, but it still seems out of character for Tenshinhan. I always felt like he held to the whole Spiderman philosophy "With great power comes great responsibility” in addition to the fact that he is a genuine warrior and is always in search of a means to test his skills and worth. That is what made me fond of the character, in some ways he appeared to be more of a Saiyan than, Son Goten, and main continuity Son Gohan and Trunks. Does anyone have any theories on what his reasoning may have been? In my narrative, I am attempting to reconcile why the majority essentially punked out later on other than Mr. Toriyama found them redundant.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:02 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:That makes a lot of sense, but it still seems out of character for Tenshinhan. I always felt like he held to the whole Spiderman philosophy "With great power comes great responsibility” in addition to the fact that he is a genuine warrior and is always in search of a means to test his skills and worth.

Even Spider-Man hangs up the mask once his body starts to fail him.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:13 pm

He doesn't look like his body is failing him, in fact, he looks exactly the same, and seems to be training still in GT.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:05 pm

Drunken Master wrote:He doesn't look like his body is failing him, in fact, he looks exactly the same, and seems to be training still in GT.

I'm with you on the fact that Tien must have been around the same power level, but there is just no way that he could have improved at the same rate as the Saiya-jins.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:31 pm

Drunken Master wrote:He doesn't look like his body is failing him, in fact, he looks exactly the same, and seems to be training still in GT.

It just shows that Tien is a beast

Horgus · Post by **Horgus** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:45 pm

It just shows that Tenshinhan is a beast

Yeah, and by that point Tenshinhan is OLD, shouldn't he be pushing 50 by GT?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:03 pm

Horgus wrote:
It just shows that Tenshinhan is a beast
Yeah, and by that point Tenshinhan is OLD, shouldn't he be pushing 50 by GT?

56 or 57, actually.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:44 am

Zuhalter2000 wrote:
It just shows that Tenshinhan is a beast

Classic

Super 17 · Post by **Super 17** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:11 am

I always asked myself this question. Also I know the Garlic Junior saga is filler, but I wondered why Tenshinhan and Chaozu didn't feel the earth threatened by Garlic Junior and his henchman. Kind of weird for them not showing up. They probably got controlled by the black water mist, but isn't Tenshinhan smart to it avoid just like Gohan and Piccolo. Kuririn got lucky since he was under water and thus not affecting him.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:56 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:In movie 10 Vegeta failed to show up and fight Broli.

My theory; When he sensed Broli's Ki, he immediately dropped to his knees and started babbling about how they were all going to be killed.

Fortunately nobody was around to see him.

Unfortunately, in this state, his Battle Power dropped to 1 or 2 so Piccolo couldn't sense him to go pick him up again.

Super 17 wrote:I always asked myself this question. Also I know the Garlic Junior saga is filler, but I wondered why Tenshinhan and Chaozu didn't feel the earth threatened by Garlic Junior and his henchman. Kind of weird for them not showing up. They probably got controlled by the black water mist, but isn't Tenshinhan smart to it avoid just like Gohan and Piccolo. Kuririn got lucky since he was under water and thus not affecting him.

Gohan got lucky, too. He got knocked into a cave or something. And I think Piccolo wasn't affected because he was already a Mazoku.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:32 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Drunken Master wrote:He doesn't look like his body is failing him, in fact, he looks exactly the same, and seems to be training still in GT.
I'm with you on the fact that Tenshinhan must have been around the same power level, but there is just no way that he could have improved at the same rate as the Saiya-jins.

Huh? I was just showing that he doesn't age fast, because he trains all the time, around the same power level of who?

Super 17 wrote:I always asked myself this question. Also I know the Garlic Junior saga is filler, but I wondered why Tenshinhan and Chaozu didn't feel the earth threatened by Garlic Junior and his henchman. Kind of weird for them not showing up. They probably got controlled by the black water mist, but isn't Tenshinhan smart to it avoid just like Gohan and Piccolo. Kuririn got lucky since he was under water and thus not affecting him.

Yeah, that's just stupidity on Toei's part, they easily could have been fitted in, but were just forgot. They don't appear once in that entire "saga".

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:27 pm

Arale and the rest of Penguin Village are never mentioned again either, but that's probably for the best. Lunch disappears into obscurity apart from a few cameos. Same with Snow and Android 8.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:11 am

Casual Matt wrote: My theory; When he sensed Broli's Ki, he immediately dropped to his knees and started babbling about how they were all going to be killed.

Fortunately nobody was around to see him.

Unfortunately, in this state, his Battle Power dropped to 1 or 2 so Piccolo couldn't sense him to go pick him up again.

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I think Piccolo wasn't affected because he was already a Mazoku.

That could have been part of it, but I like to peg it to him being too damn smart for that shit. Of course... I think I remember him being under a huge dogpile of crazy humans chewing on him. I need to watch those eps again. I don't know why I haven't watched them in a while, as they have the sexiest-antennae-swish ever in their ranks. ...... Mmh. Piccolo.....

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:27 am

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:35 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:I'm the only person who ever bothers to watch the Garlic Jr. saga.

Except for Kaioken ChiChi.

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