Madman Saga of Goku

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:42 pm

*sigh*

Ok, is there any store that still carries this seemingly impossible-to-get-ahold-of set, or do I have to keep watching Ebay until it eventually turns up? I really don't want to buy the 80-episode box set for 13 episodes only.

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:14 pm

Adamant wrote:*sigh*

Ok, is there any store that still carries this seemingly impossible-to-get-ahold-of set, or do I have to keep watching Ebay until it eventually turns up? I really don't want to buy the 80-episode box set for 13 episodes only.

You have to consider the fact that it might be very old and out of print or whatever you call it. It just might be that there is a used cop out there just waiting for you.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:22 pm

I've got it.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:44 pm

Uh, that ain't the Madman release. That's either the original funi edited release(which i have I just don't remember what the cover looks like) or that's bootleg.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:21 am

If you are talking about the DVD, its not a bootleg because I also have that. Idk what the Madman release is though.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:28 am

Pain, thats not the madman release. Thats one of two DVD's from Kidmarks DragonBall box set. Why do you just have one?

This is Madman's version...

It has the FUNimation English dub as well as the Japanese version with English subtitles.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:37 am

If it's the Madman version, you might be able to find a copy from an Oceania site... GPstore.co.nz has some of the Madman ones, but doesn't list the one you're after at this time.

klokwerk · Post by **klokwerk** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:31 am

I work in retail and I can tell you that along with many older individual anime DVDs (ie: Volume 1 of 6 or whatever) Dragon Ball is being phased out. You can still buy the big boxes with 6 or 7 volumes inside but I believe they're no longer available to order individually (the saga sets that is).

As I say, Madman is doing this for numerous older releases. I suspect another reason behind this in Dragon Ball's case to be the eventual "Uncut Remastered"-style release that we all think will happen.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:28 am

Is why the US version is dubbed only is because another company still owns the rights to the ocean group episodes?

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:32 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:Is why the US version is dubbed only is because another company still owns the rights to the ocean group episodes?

They have a sub-license from FUNimation (which no-one ACTUALLY and TRULY knows the full extent of) for those episodes' home distribution. Nothing more, nothing less.

This means FUNimation cannot on their own (despite being the ones who produce them) actually release a new "version" of those episodes. Can't do them dubbed, can't do them subbed, can't do them both, etc.

This was all set up back in 1995ish (when FUNimation first produced those dubbed episodes [1-13] and the movie [1]) due to their... well... being an irrelevant and insignificant company that couldn't do any kind of distribution on their own. Same thing happened with DBZ's first "two seasons", but at least THAT sub-license with Pioneer/Geneon actually had a freakin' expiration on it (which led to the re-dub, "Ultimate Uncut Edition" releases, and subsequent season sets containing those materials).

snaku · Post by **snaku** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:58 pm

Check your inbox, Adamant.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:36 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Pain, thats not the madman release. Thats one of two DVD's from Kidmarks DragonBall box set. Why do you just have one?

This is Madman's version...

It has the FUNimation English dub as well as the Japanese version with English subtitles.

Because I burned all of the other ones. They were terrible.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:13 pm

Yeah the Kidmark Dragonball release is really bad. The edits are funny for Nostalgia purposes but that's it. And I don't know if it's every version, but in the last episode on disc two, the audio goes all out of sync and the video glitches and looks all weird. And for the record I bought it brand new and have only watched it once.

Kula · Post by **Kula** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:14 am

Does anyone know why Madman could release 1-13 uncut, but not the movie?

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:46 am

Kula wrote:Does anyone know why Madman could release 1-13 uncut, but not the movie?

Our assumption is that, unlike the TV series, FUNimation never actually went back and did an uncut dub of the first movie.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:50 am

VegettoEX wrote: Our assumption is that, unlike the TV series, FUNimation never actually went back and did an uncut dub of the first movie.

It cuts me up knowing that.

There is absolutely nothing stopping FUNimation from putting out an uncut version of the first DB feature, other than the fact that to do an uncut dub (not that I am interested in it) wouldn't be cost-effective just for Australian audiences.

Hell, Madman (the distributor here) are known for doing their best to get rare acquisitions based on fan-demand, so if there was enough of a hubbub about it, they would probably try to get FUNimation to let them put it out here, but no-one knows, and no-one cares, the ones that do care would want a dub, which will never happen.

..This is depressing.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:47 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:There is absolutely nothing stopping FUNimation from putting out an uncut version of the first DB feature,

Agreed and here's why.

They can in fact go back and redub DB movie 1 anytime they want, nothing is stopping them in that regard and they probably still have the digi-beta or whatever master of it tucked away somewhere. The only thing they can't do is release it in an R1 home video format. However, like the first 13 episodes that they redubbed 7 and a half years ago, they can air it on Cartoon Network, Colors, their FUNi channel, whatever shabang network would fit such an airing for hopefully the uncut version (we had DBZ episodes 1-67 air uncut on CN, for goodness sakes!).

Also, if memory serves, FUNi put the first 13 eps on an on-demand channel a few years ago as well, so they can do the same thing with DB movie 1 if-and-when it's redubbed. Considering they'd already had DBZ eps 1-67 and movies 10-12 completely redubbed way back in Autumn of 04, I'm surprised if they genuinely haven't redubbed this one movie yet. Really, FUNi, there are alternate methods to put this out.

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