Live Action Movie Thread

[Velasa]

I'm.... borderline right now. There have been good things and bad things. I'll respond to the question anyway.

I've been writing and reading fanfiction continuously since I was 13, so I'm extremely familiar with the concept of adaptations. I've done gods know how many myself. I like adpatations! So my main fear hinges on the same thing it always does- IC or OOC. Will the varient respect the original character and take into account what they would do in that sittuation, or won't they? Some things say yes. Some say no. I'll find out for sure when I go to see it on opening day because I don't want to wait much longer than that.

[Gozar]

I'm.... borderline right now. There have been good things and bad things. I'll respond to the question anyway.

I've been writing and reading fanfiction continuously since I was 13, so I'm extremely familiar with the concept of adaptations. I've done gods know how many myself. I like adpatations! So my main fear hinges on the same thing it always does- IC or OOC. Will the varient respect the original character and take into account what they would do in that sittuation, or won't they? Some things say yes. Some say no. I'll find out for sure when I go to see it on opening day because I don't want to wait much longer than that.

This is exactly the way I feel. I'm a big fan of Fanfiction yet despite the fact that I'm so against OOC moments, I enjoy B/V Romance Fics. That last comment was kind of random...But I guess what I'm getting at is. I don't mind fans writing fanfics and giving the characters some OOC moments. But this is an official adaption...What they will do with Goku really scares me. I'm not looking for Country Bumpkin Goku. But I atleast want English Dub Goku. Ya know?

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

It's a very interesting question, and does deserve to be asked.

Look at, for example, Dark Knight. One can easily tell, well, quite a few things were changed from the source material. The batmobile is definitely different. The Joker, while quite similar, has very distinct design changes from the source material. They completely changed Two-Face's origin. Rachel as a character was created just for the movie franchise. Where it borrows elements from the original source material, it is changed to suit the film.

What makes this adaptation WORK, though, is that it retains a lot of the spirit of Batman. It is a bit lacking in the detective aspect, but overall, the film captures the dark and twisted nature of Gotham City and its most infamous psychopath. We have not a frame-by-frame copy of the animated series, nor a live-action rendition of the comics as written. But what we do have is an amazing, somewhat separate, universe in which the spirit of Batman is retained and the story is made to fit within the medium of film.

The qualities of a good adaptation are very hard to identify. You can't quantify the "spirit" of something and say "This is what has to be done wrong to make this not work". But so many things can sound bad on paper, that turn out to be extremely minor.

I'm for thinking that it is quite possible that the general spirit of Dragonball may be retained through the live action film. Early warning signs...tend to be nothing. Everyone was angered or worried that Heath Ledger was going to screw up the role of the Joker. Even I was wishing they'd cast Mark Hamill. But you know, it turned out amazing.

[Rocketman]

Everyone was angered or worried that Heath Ledger was going to screw up the role of the Joker.

Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? THAT'S TOTALLY INACCURATE AND HE DOESN'T LOOK A THING LIKE HIM AND GRARARAR *foams at the mouth*

[Gozar]

It's a very interesting question, and does deserve to be asked.

Look at, for example, Dark Knight. One can easily tell, well, quite a few things were changed from the source material. The batmobile is definitely different. The Joker, while quite similar, has very distinct design changes from the source material. They completely changed Two-Face's origin. Rachel as a character was created just for the movie franchise. Where it borrows elements from the original source material, it is changed to suit the film.

What makes this adaptation WORK, though, is that it retains a lot of the spirit of Batman. It is a bit lacking in the detective aspect, but overall, the film captures the dark and twisted nature of Gotham City and its most infamous psychopath. We have not a frame-by-frame copy of the animated series, nor a live-action rendition of the comics as written. But what we do have is an amazing, somewhat separate, universe in which the spirit of Batman is retained and the story is made to fit within the medium of film.

The qualities of a good adaptation are very hard to identify. You can't quantify the "spirit" of something and say "This is what has to be done wrong to make this not work". But so many things can sound bad on paper, that turn out to be extremely minor.

I'm for thinking that it is quite possible that the general spirit of Dragonball may be retained through the live action film. Early warning signs...tend to be nothing. Everyone was angered or worried that Heath Ledger was going to screw up the role of the Joker. Even I was wishing they'd cast Mark Hamill. But you know, it turned out amazing.

You bring up some very interesting points. Many Batman Movies do lose that detective aspect of the original Batman. I agree with you that as long as the spirit is intact the DB Movie could be a success in my eyes.

I'd like to flipside the question as well...To those who are AGAINST (or at least think it's going to be bad) the Movie. What will it take for you to consider it a success.

I will re-iterate what I said before...I LOVE the concept of an alternate story. In fact from what I've heard, I actually think the story sounds pretty good. I'm not a fan of Kame-sennin's look nor what we've seen from Piccolo. But I can gladly accept all of that if the spirit of the characters are for the most part intact. That's all I want. If I can have the characters be themselves, I'll be one helluva happy camper. Take DB Movie 3 for example...COMPLETELY different plot. Yet I still enjoyed that.

[Chuquita]

It's a very interesting question, and does deserve to be asked.

Look at, for example, Dark Knight. One can easily tell, well, quite a few things were changed from the source material. The batmobile is definitely different. The Joker, while quite similar, has very distinct design changes from the source material. They completely changed Two-Face's origin. Rachel as a character was created just for the movie franchise. Where it borrows elements from the original source material, it is changed to suit the film.

What makes this adaptation WORK, though, is that it retains a lot of the spirit of Batman. It is a bit lacking in the detective aspect, but overall, the film captures the dark and twisted nature of Gotham City and its most infamous psychopath. We have not a frame-by-frame copy of the animated series, nor a live-action rendition of the comics as written. But what we do have is an amazing, somewhat separate, universe in which the spirit of Batman is retained and the story is made to fit within the medium of film.

The qualities of a good adaptation are very hard to identify. You can't quantify the "spirit" of something and say "This is what has to be done wrong to make this not work". But so many things can sound bad on paper, that turn out to be extremely minor.

I'm for thinking that it is quite possible that the general spirit of Dragonball may be retained through the live action film. Early warning signs...tend to be nothing. Everyone was angered or worried that Heath Ledger was going to screw up the role of the Joker. Even I was wishing they'd cast Mark Hamill. But you know, it turned out amazing.

You bring up some very interesting points. Many Batman Movies do lose that detective aspect of the original Batman. I agree with you that as long as the spirit is intact the DB Movie could be a success in my eyes.

I'd like to flipside the question as well...To those who are AGAINST (or at least think it's going to be bad) the Movie. What will it take for you to consider it a success.

I will re-iterate what I said before...I LOVE the concept of an alternate story. In fact from what I've heard, I actually think the story sounds pretty good. I'm not a fan of Kame-sennin's look nor what we've seen from Piccolo. But I can gladly accept all of that if the spirit of the characters are for the most part intact. That's all I want. If I can have the characters be themselves, I'll be one helluva happy camper. Take DB Movie 3 for example...COMPLETELY different plot. Yet I still enjoyed that.

We're already past post-production; almost everything I'd want from this movie would be impossible at this point, so here's my one, simple request.


I want Goku to be in character.


Chatwin looks nothing like Goku, I think he's a terrible choice, but for the love of all that is good, if whoever wrote this story bothered to both research Goku's character and avoid nonsense like making him want to "fit in" or act "romantic" around Chi-Chi; if he's still written as a naive, cheerful, "so-what-if-I'm-naked", bottomless-eating-machine who gets excited over challenging fights (with his moments of sheer martial-arts tactical genius during said fights) and remains totally dense to Chi-Chi's come-ons, that'll be my small victory.

[Gozar]

but for the love of all that is good, if whoever wrote this story bothered to both research Goku's character and avoid nonsense like making him want to "fit in" or act "romantic" around Chi-Chi; if he's still written as a naive, cheerful, "so-what-if-I'm-naked", bottomless-eating-machine who gets excited over challenging fights (with his moments of sheer martial-arts tactical genius during said fights) and remains totally dense to Chi-Chi's come-ons, that'll be my small victory.

Dear god yes...I have a feeling that they're going to write Goku as having doubts in his own power and fearing an upcoming battle. As opposed to

"There ain't no way I'm letting you get away with this."

[Chuquita]

but for the love of all that is good, if whoever wrote this story bothered to both research Goku's character and avoid nonsense like making him want to "fit in" or act "romantic" around Chi-Chi; if he's still written as a naive, cheerful, "so-what-if-I'm-naked", bottomless-eating-machine who gets excited over challenging fights (with his moments of sheer martial-arts tactical genius during said fights) and remains totally dense to Chi-Chi's come-ons, that'll be my small victory.

Dear god yes...I have a feeling that they're going to write Goku as having doubts in his own power and fearing an upcoming battle. As opposed to

"There ain't no way I'm letting you get away with this."

I'm afraid they're going to have him declaring his undying love to Chi-Chi and then them making out for 15 minutes.

I mean, they're a canon couple, but that's not how Goku acts.

[JAPPO]

There is no way in hell cosmetic changes would ruin the movie for me. Piccolo could look like barney the freaking dinosaur and it still wouldn't ruin the movie for me. Yes, I would hate that change, but it wouldn't ruin the movie if the story is still intact.

I guess the only thing that would ruin the movie for me is 30-minutes of high school. And that'll probably last 10 minutes.

OR, a spider-man 3 situation where Goku is emo and dances around in jazz coffee shops and doing whatever else peter parker did in that god awful shit of a movie.

Hard question though.

[Gozar]

OR, a spider-man 3 situation where Goku is emo and dances around in jazz coffee shops and doing whatever else peter parker did in that god awful shit of a movie..

That's truly what I fear the most of this Movie.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

I actually did not mind the "emo Spider-Man" at ALL.

He was under the influence of the symbiote. His behavior was INTENTIONALLY made the way it was because he had no control over himself. Also, this was the first time we really saw him as a NERD. Because that's what he was, a nerd with a sudden burst of confidence and jackassery.

It fit. The REST of the movie was what ruined it for me.

[JAPPO]

I think Chatwin is as committed as Marsters. Maybe even more so, since Chatwin didn't know much of the series before being cast while Marsters did, so Chatwin actually read the entire Dragon Ball manga including the Monkey King to prepare. Marsters said he already saw most if not all the episodes more than once a year or two ago.

[Gozar]

I think Chatwin is as committed as Marsters. Maybe even more so, since Chatwin didn't know much of the series before being cast while Marsters did, so Chatwin actually read the entire Dragon Ball manga including the Monkey King to prepare. Marsters said he already saw most if not all the episodes more than once a year or two ago.

I hope you're right...I'd love to be dead wrong.

[Rocketman]

OR, a spider-man 3 situation where Goku is emo and dances around in jazz coffee shops and doing whatever else peter parker did in that god awful shit of a movie.

I liked the Black Suit Dance. And Spidey 3.




And I still don't get why people say he was emo. Pete looks pretty happy to me.

[Forgotten Hero]

I think Chatwin is as committed as Marsters. Maybe even more so, since Chatwin didn't know much of the series before being cast while Marsters did, so Chatwin actually read the entire Dragon Ball manga including the Monkey King to prepare. Marsters said he already saw most if not all the episodes more than once a year or two ago.

Where did you read or hear that? I wanna read that info myself.

[JAPPO]

I think Chatwin is as committed as Marsters. Maybe even more so, since Chatwin didn't know much of the series before being cast while Marsters did, so Chatwin actually read the entire Dragon Ball manga including the Monkey King to prepare. Marsters said he already saw most if not all the episodes more than once a year or two ago.

I hope you're right...I'd love to be dead wrong.

I've been reading a James Marsters forum (he has quite a huge underground following) and they are saying people really have no idea how much this project means to him. He was pretty much never out of character on set.

If he feels this change makes sense to the story, then I don't doubt it. Remember, we want people to be pissing their pants when they see King Piccolo. I think the look helps, but the acting is what is important.

As for Chatwin, he isn't going to screw up his potential chance to be a star...

Only actors I'm worried about are Jamie Chung and Joon Park, who are both unknowns.

Edit: Forgotten Hero, It's on my site, the post is "Roadshow October Issue," too lazy to link it.

[Gozar]

I've been reading a James Marsters forum (he has quite a huge underground following) and they are saying people really have no idea how much this project means to him. He was pretty much never out of character on set.

If he feels this change makes sense to the story, then I don't doubt it. Remember, we want people to be pissing their pants when they see King Piccolo. I think the look helps, but the acting is what is important.

Is that so? Well that's awesome...But I still don't want Piccolo to be changed too much...I don't care how much he loves this role, if Piccolo's personality is tinkered with too much...I'll be one sad dude.

[Forgotten Hero]

Piccolo better bring fear to my heart or I'll be pretty disappointed!

[DominatorLost]

This film is likely to be a commercial flop because of all the otakus and retards who are obsessed only with the anime and are usually 14 who will no doubt flood the cinemas and whine when they leave. That, or I'm thinking two years ago.

[Forgotten Hero]

Who knows if it will flop, probably. But you should label all otakus as whiners. Some of them might be pleased. Plus most Z fans these days are actually not fourteen. I'd guess seventeen or eighteen is the average.