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Post by Velasa » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:32 am

... I am also utterly and unbeliveably baffled how someone could think Son's an ideal husband. He's... a terrible husband. I want to knock his teeth in when I think about the quality of husband/father he is.

The rest of the list is really fun though.
[quote="Rocketman"]Rocketman is to ChiChi as Velasa is to _______.

A. ChiChi
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:41 am

Velasa wrote:... I am also utterly and unbeliveably baffled how someone could think Son's an ideal husband. He's... a terrible husband. I want to knock his teeth in when I think about the quality of husband/father he is.

The rest of the list is really fun though.
Well, he's better than Vegeta. ;)

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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:51 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: Well, he's better than Vegeta. ;)
Well..not really, we see a few instances of Vegeta actually taking a role in Trunks' upbringing, where as Goku is usually too busy doing his own thing, and Gohan is lucky to be allowed to tag along.

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Post by Forgotten Hero » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:09 am

Yeah, at least Vegeta didn't ditch his family three times.
(Staying on Yardrat, staying dead after the Cell Games, and training Uub.)
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:23 am

Forgotten Hero wrote:Yeah, at least Vegeta didn't ditch his family three times.
(Staying on Yardrat, staying dead after the Cell Games, and training Uub.)
I can pick and choose events, too!

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Post by Velasa » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:27 am

... Wait a second, what???

Why is Trunks on fire :shock:

That... scene makes no sense.

But as an aside- yes, Vegeta is also a bad father. But he bascally comes out and admits that he's a rotten bastard, as opposed to Son whojust seems so sweet and adoreable as he waltzes off to have fun being dead while leaving an eleven year old responsible for his pregnant mother in glorious poverty.
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Post by Forgotten Hero » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:33 am

Yeah, I never said Vegeta was a good father. He is kinda an ass to Future Trunks, but does care for him. That dramatic rush and attack on Cell, after Trunks was killed by Cell, is proof enough for me.
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Post by Raki » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:03 am

Velasa wrote:... Wait a second, what???

Why is Trunks on fire :shock:

That... scene makes no sense.

But as an aside- yes, Vegeta is also a bad father. But he bascally comes out and admits that he's a rotten bastard, as opposed to Son whojust seems so sweet and adoreable as he waltzes off to have fun being dead while leaving an eleven year old responsible for his pregnant mother in glorious poverty.
Isn't the Son family living off Goku's tournament money and the Ox King's wealth?
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:07 am

Velasa wrote:... Wait a second, what???

Why is Trunks on fire :shock:

That... scene makes no sense.
Trunks is on fire because he is being caught up in the Room of Spirit and Time's rather literal interpretation and conjuration of the burning desire within Vegeta to become more powerful than Goku.

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Post by Kunzait_83 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:09 am

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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
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Post by Raki » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:14 am

Q3. What become of Tsuru-sennin and Tao Pai Pai afterwards?
A. Ye~ah...they got mixed up in something or another and died, but they were bad people, so perhaps they weren't restored to life...
Funny, being as Crane Hermit is in one of those new pictures with everyone in it. But since everyone at the end was revived who was killed by Buu, maybe they got wished back.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:15 am

Raki wrote:
Q3. What become of Tsuru-sennin and Tao Pai Pai afterwards?
A. Ye~ah...they got mixed up in something or another and died, but they were bad people, so perhaps they weren't restored to life...
Funny, being as Crane Hermit is in one of those new pictures with everyone in it. But since everyone at the end was revived who was killed by Buu, maybe they got wished back.
Yeah, but even if those pictures weren't fan art, they certainly weren't drawn by Toriyama.

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Post by Velasa » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:56 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: Trunks is on fire because he is being caught up in the Room of Spirit and Time's rather literal interpretation and conjuration of the burning desire within Vegeta to become more powerful than Goku.
This is what I get for not watching the whole video I guess. Alrighty.
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Post by SonEric84 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:47 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Raki wrote:Isn't the Son family living off Goku's tournament money and the Ox King's wealth?
This could totally be my mind playing tricks on me, but I could swear I vaguely, fuzzily remember a throwaway line (might’ve been filer, might not’ve been) somewhere by Chi Chi where she mentions she’s getting worried cause Goku’s 23rd Budokai cash was starting to dry up. Regardless, you’d think that’d still leave Gyumao’s fortune to fall back on.

Yeah, she said that...(I think it may even be in the manga) it was one of the reasons she actually wanted Gohan to enter the tournament at the beginning of the Buu saga.
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Post by Herms » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:36 pm

SonEric84 wrote:Yeah, she said that...(I think it may even be in the manga) it was one of the reasons she actually wanted Gohan to enter the tournament at the beginning of the Buu saga.
In the manga what she says is that her father's fortune is almost gone.

OK, here's the second part of DragonBall Square. This time, it's the poll results for what people would wish for if they had the dragonballs. The wishes are broken up into general category. They even asked Toriyama what he'd wish for! There are also pictures of DragonBall characters making, who make comments on each section. I paraphrased the parts where they talk about the other wishes in each category.
Dream Section-Jump to the DragonBall world! 35%

To become a DragonBall character
"I want to see what it's like to become a Super Saiyan!”
"I want a tail...”

Others wished to become a DB character and fight alongside everyone.

Goku: Everyone wants to be strong!

To meet a DragonBall character
"I want to meet Goku and the others!”
"I want to marry Goku!”

Others wanted Goku or Piccolo to be their martial arts master.

Kuririn, talking to Goku above: It's no fair how you're always so popular...

Wanting a technique
"I want to fly with Bukujutsu!”

Bukujutsu was the most desired technique. Next was the Kamehameha. Others were the Masenko, Makankosappo, and Dodon-pa.

Goku on Kinto-un: It feels good to fly!

Others
"To fly around the world on Shenlong's back!
"I want to be Yamcha.”

Yamcha: I'm also pretty popular!

Real Section: from outrageous demands to small hopes - 23%

Money
"I want a trillion yen!”
“I want 20 thousand yen...”

Others wanted money for a wedding, or a pot that would always spit out money.
Kame-sennin: The smallest amount asked for was 10 yen [less than a penny].

Health
"Make me immortal!”
“Cure my baldness!”

Others wanted youth, to get rid of their curly hair, or keen eyesight.

Freeza: As you'd expect, immortality was a very popular choice.

Hope Section: the world in the palm of your hand! - 12%
"World peace of course.”
"World domination...or something like that.”

Requests for world peace stood out.

Pilaf: Looks like there aren't too many people who share my vision.

I want to see this kind of world too!
"The world when my father was in school.”
"A world without cockroaches.”

Oolong: .......

Love Section: I want to get love right now! - 10%
"I want a cute and kind girlfriend!”
"I want a boyfriend when I'm 12!”

Bulma: It's best to have high hopes!

Transformations Section: Be helped by becoming a different person - 10%

Brains
"To become a genius and win the Noble Prize!”
"I want to get an average above 65% on a test!”

Others wanted to do perfect on tests, have an IQ of 300, or be able to speak fluent English.

Body
"I'm dieting, so make me genetically prone to losing weight!”
"I'm the same as Commander Red...I want to be tall!”

Kuririn: I figured there'd be a lot of people who wanted to be taller.

I want a bigger change! Other things people wanted to be transformed into
"A manga artist!”
"A gymnast”
"Swiss”
"A ninja”

Puar: Transform!

Toriyame Section: Grant me my wish, Toriyama-sensei! - 5%
"I want to read a continuation or side story of DragonBall!”
"I want there to be a new serialization in Jump!”

Others wanted to become Toriyama's assistant, or have him draw a picture of them.

Gohan: Everyone wants to read Sensei's work.

Interview: “What is Sensei's wish?”
We also asked Toriyama-sensei what he would wish for!
"I don't want to be young again, and there are places I'd like to go to if I could warp around. But in the end, I'd want to not have to do any work for about year...I'm a coward, so I'd only ask for a year off (laughs).”

Idiosyncratic section: the wishes of insatiable people – 7%
"Make there be 30 hours in a day!”
"Help the Hanshin V10 go all the way!”
"Make my dog just a little bit smarter!”
"Make me into 100 people!”

Others wanted a father that had a mix of Goku and Vegeta's personalities, to have a memory that would absolutely never forget anything after just looking at it once, or to return to a certain time period.

Wishes that cannot be granted
"Give me 1000 more wishes”
"Don't scatter after it's over” [it too me forever to figure out this was talking about the dragonballs]
"It's a secret.”

Shenlong: That cannot be done.

My wish? A world without traffic accidents!
Kanzenshuu: Is that place still around?
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We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

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