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Wojak
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by Wojak » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:17 am
goodguy777 wrote:I wonder if Gohan can totally annihilate Chibi-Buu.
SSJ3 Gotenks could have totally annihilated Super Buu, and since Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, and Chibi Buu is weaker than Super Buu, that would be very possible.
Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks> Super Buu>Chibi Buu (Note: I am not giving an estimate of
how much stronger here).
EDIT: Captain Awesome has also an important point.
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by Rocketman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:23 am
goodguy777 wrote:I wonder if Gohan can totally annihilate Chibi-Buu.
Maybe. We know Vegetto was strong enough to obliterate Gohan-Buu. Depends if Gohan is similarly beyond Kid Buu's power.
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by Captain Awesome » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:40 am
I think Gohan could have easily bested Chibi Boo, but I don't think he was strong enough to wipe him out without leaving a trace, I mean as I said before it took a Genki Dama full of the energy of all the people of Earth (including Gohan) to wipe him out, I really don't see him outputting that kind of power all by his lonesome.
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by Xyex » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:52 am
Captain Awesome wrote:I think Gohan could have easily bested Chibi Boo, but I don't think he was strong enough to wipe him out without leaving a trace, I mean as I said before it took a Genki Dama full of the energy of all the people of Earth (including Gohan) to wipe him out, I really don't see him outputting that kind of power all by his lonesome.
I think Goku was largely being cautious there. He realized what it would take to finish off Buu but didn't know how much energy that actually meant. So he got as much as he could get just to be positive it was enough. After all, the last two times he used the Spirit Bomb it... kind of didn't work. And a repeat of that against Buu would be a very bad thing.
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by Toriyama Boss » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:46 pm
Herms wrote:That's what actually happens during his fight with Gotenks. Gotenks blows him to pieces with the Super Ghost Kamikaze attack, burns the pieces with a ki beam from his finger, then stomps on the smoking piles with his foot. He and Piccolo think they've won, until all the smoke from the burning pieces assembles and reforms into Buu. Piccolo then says they should have used their ki to completely wipe him out.
Is that the super Saiyan 3 Gotenks fight?
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by Horgus » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:41 pm
Toriyama Boss wrote:Herms wrote:That's what actually happens during his fight with Gotenks. Gotenks blows him to pieces with the Super Ghost Kamikaze attack, burns the pieces with a ki beam from his finger, then stomps on the smoking piles with his foot. He and Piccolo think they've won, until all the smoke from the burning pieces assembles and reforms into Buu. Piccolo then says they should have used their ki to completely wipe him out.
Is that the super Saiyan 3 Gotenks fight?
No, it isn't
SSJ3 Gotenks' attacks were a lot more effective
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by Toriyama Boss » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:03 pm
Oh, so it must have been the battle in the room of spirit and time then?
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by Kaboom » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:15 pm
Toriyama Boss wrote:Oh, so it must have been the battle in the room of spirit and time then?
Yeah. Though the only advantage SSj Gotenks had in there was the Kamikaze Ghost attack. It's an attack that can yield more powerful results than the user itself, sort of like Goku's Dragon Fist. Not until using SSj3 was Gotenks all-around faster, stronger, and more powerful than Buu.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:28 pm
Y'see, this leads to a problem I have with the story. Gohan wasn't brought into the final battle 'because Boo might absorb him' but we know that Super Boo was afraid of becoming Original Boo again as he'd lose his soul and/or mind. I don't think it would have been likely that Gohan would again be reabsorbed. Had he been there he'd have been able to last longer in a battle then Gokû or Vegeta as he did not need a streneous Super Saiyan form to fight and probably could have given off one good Kame Hame Ha to end it all...but I digress...
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by Bussani » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:35 pm
Xyex wrote:I think Goku was largely being cautious there. He realized what it would take to finish off Buu but didn't know how much energy that actually meant. So he got as much as he could get just to be positive it was enough. After all, the last two times he used the Spirit Bomb it... kind of didn't work. And a repeat of that against Buu would be a very bad thing.
Not to mention that final Genki Dama
still wasn't enough as Buu was able to hold it back. It wasn't until Goku got his energy back and gave it a helping extra push that it worked.
To be honest, I wonder if any of them, even Vegetto, could really have wiped Buu out without a trace. They could beat him, no doubt, but as Herms and Captain Awesome have pointed out being able to win isn't enough. You have to completely annihilate him.
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by Rocketman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:47 pm
Bussani wrote:To be honest, I wonder if any of them, even Vegetto, could really have wiped Buu out without a trace. You have to completely annihilate him.
Vegetto could. He completely annihilated Buu's antenna. With a
kiai.
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by Bussani » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:50 pm
Rocketman wrote:Bussani wrote:To be honest, I wonder if any of them, even Vegetto, could really have wiped Buu out without a trace. You have to completely annihilate him.
Vegetto could. He completely annihilated Buu's antenna. With a
kiai.
Ahh, okay then.