Live Action Movie Thread

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:16 am

" Fate it seems, is not without a sense of irony... "

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:39 am

Snail wrote:" Fate it seems, is not without a sense of irony... "

Word that. Only because The Matrix is awesome and it fits. Problems with the look and feel of the movie will end with mention of better movies. Keep it up.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:32 pm

Snail wrote:So, how about something to complain about.

Something to complain about? Okay.

I was actually looking forward to Chow Yun-fat playing Kame-sen'nin, but could any less effort have been put into making Yun-fat look like the character?
Seriously, he even looked more like Roshi when he was playing Sao Feng.

At least give him the shades, jeez...

Smindas · Post by **Smindas** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:48 pm

Hate to dredge up a subject that was just recently put to rest, but I just spent twenty minutes trawling through this topic to find the images of Piccolo from the trailer to discover that they have been removed from the website. Don't suppose anyone has a back up of any kind? No problem if not, cheers.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:59 pm

You don't need to be Shenron to grant that wish! *collective groan*

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:58 pm

Just in case you wanted them, all of the other pictures are here.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:14 pm

I rather like the look of the orange-and-blue gi in the image at the top.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:17 pm

Looking at that image makes me feel like Chatwin would have made a better Gohan. At least as far as looks go.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:38 pm

....This is the first time I've seen movie Roshi.

Did they...y'know...put ANY effort into his look?

At all?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:39 pm

Here we go again.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:50 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Here we go again.

Fucking people and there opinions. I can't believe we're still discussion the movie on a movie discussion topic.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:53 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:....This is the first time I've seen movie Roshi.

Did they...y'know...put ANY effort into his look?

At all?

It feels like most of their costume effort went into making Mai look like a femme fatal and making that black and red armor for Vampiccolo.

I hope adaption "Roshi" does at least wear sunglasses at some point in the movie.
At least he's got a Hawaiian shirt in some of the screenshots?

Also, have we seen Gohan Sr at all yet?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:55 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Here we go again.
Fucking people and there opinions. I can't believe we're still discussion the movie on a movie discussion topic.

No need for that tone. It's just that we've heard this all before.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:57 pm

Yeah. I saw the shirt.

...He's just not old-looking enough.

They made Jackie Chan look insanely old in Forbidden Kingdom, to the point that I didn't realize it was him for a good bit of time.

....Why can't he be bald? Why can't he have a beard?

Why can't his hair be WHITE?

Hell, I'd settle for "graying".

I'm not asking for much in this movie adaptation. I never was. But somewhere, a line is drawn, and you start to wonder how much effort was put into preserving the look and feel of Dragonball.

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:58 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:
Snail wrote:So, how about something to complain about.
Something to complain about? Okay.

I was actually looking forward to Chow Yun-fat playing Kame-sen'nin, but could any less effort have been put into making Yun-fat look like the character?
Seriously, he even looked more like Roshi he was playing Sao Feng.

At least give him the shades, jeez...

That looks pretty close.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:04 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Here we go again.
Fucking people and there opinions. I can't believe we're still discussion the movie on a movie discussion topic.
No need for that tone. It's just that we've heard this all before.

Well, if you've heard it all before, and you don't want to hear again...maybe its time you left the thread?

I realize I sound like an asshole, but I don't know how to say it without sounding like one.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:53 pm

Kid Trunks wrote:Well, if you've heard it all before, and you don't want to hear again...maybe its time you left the thread?

I realize I sound like an asshole, but I don't know how to say it without sounding like one.

No, I think that's fair. I was going to ask something similar, myself.

There's this trend on forums for us to kind of assume that because we have some information or have had some discussion, that others should now peruse the archives and be up to speed. Super Ghost Kamikaze said it was his first time seeing Roshi, so clearly he hasn't "heard it all before."

What I'm saying is that some of us here follow these threads to some degree or another, and have followed all of them. Some of us are more like dabblers who show up every few pages. And some are newer, just starting with this thread. If some of us who have seen it all find ourselves getting irritated, it may be time to take a break from this topic until something significant comes.

And Kaboom, re-reading that I think I kinda come off as condescending. Like Kid Trunks, I can't think of any other way to say it, and that isn't my intention. Let's just say I've been there. The last thread, you may or may not recall, had me griping that any complaints were just "same shit, different day" redundant bitching. But when the thread got locked, I basically stayed out of this topic. I came in when I noticed (a little late) the Piccolo shots had been publicized. Since then, I've more or less lurked (except for the last few days). Given your comment above, maybe you're hitting your irritation threshold, and just need leave it be for a little bit?

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:34 am

http://www.dragonball-live.fr/pix/galerie/pic59.jpg

What the hell is on his shirt?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:44 am

DominatorLost wrote:http://www.dragonball-live.fr/pix/galerie/pic59.jpg

What the hell is on his shirt?

That, you see, is what we call a "lady." They are good.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:07 am

Disclaimer: I’m seeing these images for the first time. I also haven’t read the entire thread. So don’t jump off the deep end if I say something you’ve heard before.

That said, the Piccolo costuming decision just angers me, plain and simple. It just screams “Hollywood alien! Hollywood alien!” The black, overgrowth-style, exoskeleton-like body suit is something we’ve seen before; yes, it’s “cool-looking,” but only in a generic villain sense (Or Dracula, with that embroidered red coat or whatever he has on). It just isn’t Piccolo!

Piccolo is green, people; there shouldn’t be any negotiating that. The greenscreen theory simply doesn’t apply here, because “greensceen” is just one of the many different possible physical set-ups for chroma keying, which is the substitution of a color or range of colors with a separate video track. The fact that Dragon Ball would have colorful blasts, etc. would do nothing to prevent the use of certain keys because most of those digital effects are added in after the background has already been composited. If Goku wore a blue gi and Piccolo had green makeup on, they could just as well used a fuschia key if they wanted.

So I don’t really buy that their hand was forced in not making him look the way he’s supposed to. I think they were just trying to make the movie version unique (perhaps for marketing purposes) and decided that a demon and/or alien look was all that was necessary for him. Now, it would have been one thing to revamp Piccolo, giving him an updated look from the ’80s incarnation, but that’s not what they’ve done here. They stripped out the most distinctive physical attributes of the character (note the lack of antennae and “fleshy parts”), and to me that just demonstrates a lack of respect for the source material.

While I realize these are all merely aesthetic changes, and his personality could be exactly like it is in the comics—I certainly don’t doubt Marsters as an actor and apparently dedicated fan of the originals—let’s get real here. Nearly every bit of news we’ve gotten about this thing indicates a dissent from the original. The “pro-movie” folk don’t seem to lend much significance to the facts that:

The setting of this movie is wrong
The costumes of all of the characters are wrong except for Goku after he changes out of his sweater-vest
The age of Piccolo is wrong
The henchmen, while resembling something ostensibly out of DB, don’t really look like the type of crowd Piccolo would hang out with at all, nor are they likely to have unique personalities since they all seem to be clones of each other
EMI and TETO were invented for no apparent reason
There’s all of a sudden a table of six monks which I can only hope aren’t a council of elders appointed to protect the Dragon Balls or something
The Dragon Balls themselves don’t even look like Dragon Balls in any of the pictures we’ve seen
The story has something to do with the alignment of the planets and a solar eclipse (snoresville)

The movie could still be amazing, but honestly, who cares? It isn’t going to be Dragon Ball; it will merely feature similar characters.