"Zenkai"

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:55 pm

Is the term "zenkai" used in the manga to describe the power-up Saiya-jin receive after facing and recovering from near death? I'm guessing no... but I've got questions to answer...

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:22 pm

Here's a few translations I found of the word -

zenkai
ぜんかい last time / last installment / last session
whole assembly
complete destruction
complete recovery of health
opening fully / full throttle

So I guess in the manga, that's exactly what its referring to

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:27 pm

No, no... I know what the word is and what it means. I'm asking if the manga SPECIFICALLY uses THAT word in this SPECIFIC case (being instances where Saiya-jin gain a power-boost from near-death).

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:34 pm

Hmm in that case, I don't think so, but it could work most definitly if it did.

"Zenkai" is a very cool sounding word, but I don't think its there referring to that case. I'm curious though how this question came to be? Is it from that song "Something Zenkai Power" or whatever?

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:20 pm

The full title of the song is "Dete Koi Tobikiri ZENKAI Power".

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:25 pm

Wasn't that song written before the "near-death Saiyan power-up" idea was thought up?

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:34 pm

PsyLiam wrote:Wasn't that song written before the "near-death Saiyan power-up" idea was thought up?

Before... but it's just as Daimao translated it for the DVDs.

Daimao · Post by **Daimao** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:54 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:
PsyLiam wrote:Wasn't that song written before the "near-death Saiyan power-up" idea was thought up?
Before... but it's just as Daimao translated it for the DVDs.

For precisely the reason that PsyLiam points out.

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:00 pm

Daimao wrote:
SaiyaJedi wrote:
PsyLiam wrote:Wasn't that song written before the "near-death Saiyan power-up" idea was thought up?
Before... but it's just as Daimao translated it for the DVDs.
For precisely the reason that PsyLiam points out.

Exactly what I said!

[Edits? What edits?]

Post by **VegettoEX** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:20 pm

And yet no-one's answered the actual question I originally asked

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Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:22 pm

VegettoEX wrote:And yet no-one's answered the actual question I originally asked .

It's like we start playing "broken telephone" after everytime you post isn't it, EX?

Post by **TripleRach** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:36 pm

Looking at the first time the brink of death power up is mentioned (Vegeta/Dodoria fight), there's no zenkai anywhere.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:42 pm

Isn't the Zenkai left untranslated in the subtitles for the songs on the DVD? "Come out full force ZENKAI power"? Why'd you do that, Mr Steve?

Daimao · Post by **Daimao** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:06 pm

PsyLiam wrote:Isn't the Zenkai left untranslated in the subtitles for the songs on the DVD? "Come out full force ZENKAI power"? Why'd you do that, Mr Steve?

If I remember correctly, it's because that's how it appears in the original Japanese version as well (ie, in all-caps Romaji). If that's how it was supposed to look in the original Japanese, who am I to deny their wishes in the English? Which is the same reason I left the Chinese "来,来,来, (lai lai lai)" in as well (but covering for it with the "come over here" line just before it). Just trying to preserve the flavor of the sone as much as possible.

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